Nothing our grand U.S. government does should surprise anyone with one ounce of knowledge about the Republican and the Democrat Parties’ historic efforts to erase the U.S. Constitution. Both of our Bush Presidents spat on that document– Bush I with his NEW WORLD ORDER program and Bush II with his “it’s just a gd piece of paper.” Bush II worked, unconstitutionally, to put us into the North American Union (step two of the New World Order). Obama, with his latest gun treaty (the same one signed by Bush II), continues the Socialistic One World march.
Beginning with Franklin D. Roosevelt’s United Nations, every Democrat President has joined the efforts to eliminate our constitutional Republic by converting it to Socialism/Communism. Woodrow Wilson , earlier, worked for his dream of One World Government, just as did Karl Marx, Abe Lincoln’s great admirer, who was hired by a big New York newspaper to prepare the North for the War against the Bible believing Southerners.
The Republicans and the Democrats are the same party. Those elected wear a variety of masks to signify some Party difference. A few Republicans are costumed to look like true blue Americans now that the clock approaches the witching hour. Where were they when this nation could have been saved from its plunge into deep Socialism (Communism by another name)?
Most Americans are too brain-washed by centuries of Marxist propaganda to recognize the value of a U.S. Constitution which guaranteed us a Republic form of government, rather than a Democracy. A Republic was ours until Dishonest Abe and his Marxists-Radical Republicans created that first Income Tax (a plank in the Communist platform) and attacked the sovereign nation, the Confederate States of America. The North, under the tutelage of the Republican Party’s Marxists, stomped into submission the only part of the nation dedicated to the Constitution and to the Republic. How dare the South secede to avoid paying those humongous taxes for Northern Corporations’ wanted “improvements?”
The Lincoln cultists have persisted in drenching each young generation of Americans with Marxist lies. The Lincolnites, even now, are continually pitting the black race against the white race by employing cleverly twisted half-truths. The Lincoln cultists strive to eliminate all memory that the North’s Slave Merchants, before looking south, first filled up the North with weeping, kidnapped black slaves.
The North held on to its slaves until white immigrants arrived in such numbers as to fill the factory work forces. Then Northern slave owners sold most of their slaves to the South to pick the cotton the North needed for its garment factories. The North’s slave merchants grew filthy rich by continuing their slave trade practices not only by dumping slaves in the South, but in the rest of the world, also.
Two new world nations held on to their slaves and slave buying long after Southerners was forced into poverty by the Lincoln Marxist army of European mercenaries and “Reconstructed” by the Republicans controlling the Union. Rather than scorning these two slave-holding nations, the Republicans in power, did business with them. (So much for slavery being the cause of the War!)
The Confederate flag never flew over a single slave ship; the flag that flew over every American slave ship was that of the United States of America.
It is an abomination that left-wingers continue to attack the Confederate flag as the flag of American black slavery when the REAL FLAG OF SLAVERY IS THE STARS AND STRIPES—and before that– any or all of the flags of Muslim nations.
Abe Lincoln did not emancipate a single American slave. Abe Lincoln was for white superiority. If this is a surprise to you, you have only read lies throughout your life.
Abe Lincoln was a complete dictator who spat on the U.S. Constitution when he imprisoned thousands of Northerners who dared say and/or write that the South had the Constitutional right to secede, as did all U.S. states. Abe moved Heaven to Hell to avoid having Americans remember that the New England states themselves almost seceded during the War of 1812—ceasing their secession efforts only when the Brits signed the treaty ending that war. Lincoln certainly did not want his Northerners to remember that every state’s individual Constitution emphasized the state’s own sovereignty above that of the Union’s.
Our brain-washed PHD historians are, largely, responsible for the mess this nation is wallowing in today. They have been the chief propagandists for Socialism. They have brought a great nation to its knees by helping to destroy our Republic by converting it into a Democracy and by feeding hate-filled lies to blacks and creating white “liberal/left wingers.” One must assume that all the honors, awards, and monetary prizes the Lincoln cult historians have won by touting the glories of the lying Abe Lincoln and his Marxist controlled Republican Party will make up to the historians’ great grand kids for the mess they will inherit.
One must assume that all the honors, awards, and monetary prizes the Lincoln cult historians have won by touting the glories of the lying Abe Lincoln and his Marxist-controlled Republican Party will make up to the historians’ great grand kids for the mess they will inherit and all the freedoms they will lose. Taken away will be those freedoms and liberties now guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution and emphasized in the Bill of Rights.
The Right to Bear Arms is only one of the freedoms designated for erasure by the traitors now controlling our government.
Treason prospers due to the Constitutional ignorance inculcated in our young by government control of education and by those dedicated to passing on the lies of Socialism.
This business of foreign nations knowing the owners of firearms ties in with the census. They want to know the GPS coordinates of our front door within 40′. That’s forty feet and they want it in 90 days from an early May date. Are they planning to come for our guns in the middle of the night using foreign troops who have coordinates on our front door? This must stop!!! Maybe we need to recall Obama and his socialist, totalitarian mob!!! Conspiracy theory anyone???
Where is Obama going to stop? The more I see and hear him convinces me is not an American and should not hole the office of President. On the other hand, I would hate to see Joe Biden, Nancey Pelosi or Barney Frank in his place. God Bless America and what it used to stand for.
send the foreign bastards over, I’m ready, locked and loaded–I see a blue beany and I will put a 30 cal right between his runnin lights. I’m a former US Marine and I will not submit to any foreign or domestic enemy.
EVERYONE should watch the movie ‘Red Dawn’ again. While it featured Soviet troops, it did have a Mexican commander. If this is what it will take, ALL gunowners need to take heed and not give up our guns. America has never been violated on our own soil (sans 9/11) with troops walking on it, but if they do, we need to blow them all away with whatever we have! Yes, ammo is hard to find, and may be expensive when you do find it, but we need to stock up. We knew what would happen if Obama won with that leftist-dominated Congress, but WE are responsible for the outcome. Too many of us were STUPID enough to believe all the B.S. of “change” while most of us warned that “change” can be for the worse (and it is). 2A was written in the Constitution because the founders KNEW what EVIL LEADERS in this country could do so they wanted to make sure we could fight our government if need be. Let’s have the courage to stand for what the founders stood for. GOD BLESS AMERICA despite our stupidity!
Obama, you do not deserve the title of President because all you do is shame the nation, leave our guns alone. That should be clear even for you. Withdraw your request for the anti-gun treaty. If Mexico citizens want to live in fear of their government and violent criminals, that is their choice. We citizens of the US do not choose the course of tyranny that you seem intent on taking. Withdraw all anti-gun/gun-control legislation you are advocating. Restore our right to self protection.
Although you obviously have no understanding or respect for our Constitution, most citizens do. The Second Amendment is the most important statement in the constitution; read Blackstone if you doubt me.
This amendment RECOGNIZES…not grants…our right as human beings to defend ourselves agains all criminals and tyrannts. It recognizes our rights to KEEP and to BEAR arms.
We stood by while you experimented with gun control in 1994. We will no longer stand quietly while the Liberals try and dismantle our Constitution.
Let us defend ourselves and our families and our country. You can assist us by concentrating on terrorists and pirates abroad…and by not deprecating the US every chance you get. You may be popular in Europe and abroad elsewhere, but you are elected only by American citizens.
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I’ve got plenty of shotgun shells and ammo ready for any foreign turban headed chicken shit who wants to invade Texas and will blow his sorry ass to hell where he belongs. Oh, and they’re all coated in pigs blood so the only view of 72 virgins the bastard will have is of the devil’s virgins waiting to pork him in the poop shoot!!
Clark Ammerman, you are not alone, brother. USMC 1967-71. RVN 68/69
This jug-eared Chicago hustler, Hussein Obama, this racist marxist illegal Kenyan alien posing as an American citizen will not make a four year term. Rather, he will be in jail awaiting trial or serving the
He has committed so many brazen acts of Anti-American treason by failing to uphold his oath to defend and protect the Constitution that he will be behind bars before this term is done, or we will all be fighting his brother muslims in the streets.
In the meantime, we should buy our guns at gunshows and stockpile ammo as it becomes available. If our outlaw government is going to open the gates to international islamofacists, it will be us who must stop them.
WOW! Talk about wet dreams seeing the light of day. All you rambo wannabe’s need to read ALL OF THE second ammendment again, not just the part that gets you all warm and fuzzy. Either that or join the militia (Nat. Guard) that it plainly is discussing. So before you grab your guns from the boogey man with the dark skin, better get you facts straight…BTW “Garfy”(nice) they were CUBAN officers in the movie “Red Dawn”, you know the COMMUNIST country to the south of us? As is usual with your type, it seems you are remembering the facts however you need to so that your fantasy is complete.
So far the Supreme Court says differently than you Realist. Thank God for that. It is amazing that some folks just do not realize that the 2nd Amendment is the only thing that stands in way of the U.S. becoming a completely socialist, or dictatorial country. The 2nd amendment is the shoulders that the entire constitution rests upon. This fact is undeniable. I’ll keep my guns as the 2ND was intended to keep us safe from our own government plain and simple. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. This fact has been demonstrated throughout history repeatedly. The people that we have elected are no different than many of the thugs and dictators of the past. Give them a chance and they will show their true beliefs.
WOW! Free speech, God and Country, right to bear arms, sons and daughters
why would you folks wanna argue about this, my gun, my land, my life, I woulda gave it and still will…for even that realist to continue to live free in america. Remember all that you see and hear…Some gave all, All gave some. And this continues for the patriotic americans that speak english…
brother Marines I am with you always…69-73 Semper Fi.
Check me out if you dare…and finally where the hell do you think the idea
for Rambo came from and by the way what did the dude say about the
Wolverines hmmm? Tread softly as you may not tread on the Flag of the U.S.
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Buy all the guns and ammo you can. You may have to pay alot for them, but it is a wise and possibly life saving investment! I wish the bleeding hearts could look back in time to see how much things have changed, slowly, over the years. This has all been happening for years, but only in small doses so the general public doesn’t catch wind of it and freak out. Well, luckily the power of the internet has opened alot of peoples eyes up and it allows us “common folk” to see what is really happening. Everything going on today has went way beyond any “conspiracy theory” that the Left loves to call it. It is real. They want your guns. They want your rights. They want your freedom. They want a New World Order. Well, it will never happen in my life! I won’t allow it. I will fight until the death of me to defend my rights, freedom and way of life for me and my children! GOD BLESS AMERICA and GOD DAMN OBAMA!!!!
Realist, are you for real? Way back when…the PEOPLE were the Militia!!! You need a name change like the intelligent folks need change from your messiah, his grand lowless; obomba.
The National Guard wasn’t established until the latter part of the nineteenth century so there is no way it was factored into the militia component of the Second Amendment. The militia refers to the standing body of adult male citizens who are armed as the result of the individual right granted by God to self and common defense. You liberals play fast and loose with historical facts…..always.
Is this the ‘Change’ everyone was thinking about? It certainly was NOT my idea of ‘Change’. All this ‘Pelosi’ (my new acronym for B.S.) is getting
me downright depressed and probably alot of people out there. Thank God
for the internet so we can voice OUR opinions. We all need to be vigilant
regarding all this so called ‘Change’. “God,…I pray,….Help America”
Everything the Obamessiah does is presented in terms that sound good, but we need to keep in mind the saying that there are always two reasons for everything. One that we are told and the real reason. Thank you Mr. Dobbs!
I am a Patriot of these United States. My brother and myself are just waiting for a leader,perferably, one who has bled for this country– to call!
“Call to Arms! The democratic-socialist legislation is coming!”
My son SSGT Timothy P. Davis, KIA Afghanistan 2/20/09 & I will not go down without a fight to save our nation from destruction! Amen!
Lastly, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, (indivisible; that is debateable-currently) with liberty and justice for all.
You all seem so SURPRISED, I have news for all of you, I started getting prepared 20 years ago, about 15,000 rnds and adding dai;y. Send them SOB’s my way I atill practice at 500 yards+!
So, where does this “standing body” meet? How are you organized? Do you have a command structure that would keep this “militia” from becoming just another mob or are you guys planning to figure it out when the “Red Dawn” scenario happens? Those are the guiding principals our Guard and Reserve forces (20 years/retired here) are based on. I just wish that all this energy was channeled into something that actually could produce an effective defense. Individuals with $30k of buried weapons/arms cache aren’t going to slow a professional military force down one iota. Neither will your standard vigilante style group. Meanwhile, we use the 2A as an excuse to buy weapons that are just used on ourselves, our friends and our family.
Take your idiot philosophy and go to DC to see your socialist anti-gun friends and stay off the computer with garbage. Check your facts before you put people down. I agree with cold dead hands and as retired military member, I will still defend the constitution.
Take your no nothing statement, go to DC and hug your socialist friends, but whatever you do, check your facts and stop putting people down. I agree with cold dead hans and as a retired military man, I will still defend the constitution.
Why are “we the people” always the bad guys and the foreign a-holes get to do business as usual. If our grand government would allow law enforcement to do their job ,and the justice system would put the bad guys away for a real sentence. True american gun owners are not allowing their arms to be sold on the black market. How do these terrorists get military weapons and explosives, not down at Bob’s Gun and Tackle. Tell the government to wake up!
They have got to get our guns before they can put One World Government in place. Most Congressmen and Senators are afraid to buck the Hidden Government and will go along with the scheme.
Don’t matter what party you belong to, they’ve both sold us down the river and it’s time we all wake-up and let Washington know we’re not rollin’ over.
What the hell is going on with our country?!?! We are now living in the United Socialist States of America. Our freedoms are being taken away from us every single day. I proudly cling to my guns and my Bible and all of those freaks that would laugh at me for that, can move to Europe or any other &$*(-Hole country in this world. Here is a good statement from Thomas Jefferson for you all: “THOSE WHO HAMMER THEIR GUNS INTO PLOWS WILL PLOW FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT” We so easily forget history. What usually happens to civilians shortly after their weapons are taken from them??? Also, do you really think that we would have the same Constitution if our forefathers knew what was happening to our country now? No way! It would be much more specific on our God-Given American right to own one. You know… I own many weapons at home. I own them because 1) It’s my God-given American right, 2) To protect my family if need be, 3) I like target practice and it is fun to shoot them, etc…. I don’t sit at home at night cleaning my weapons and I am not a paranoid freak that constantly worries about “bad-guys” coming over to kill me and my family, but I could not live with myself if I didn’t have a weapon and someone came to my house with a gun and killed my family (It happens all of the time). Here is another good statement to live by: If I die, I die…That is a fact of life, but If I die for a reason that could of been prevented….THAT is a problem. All of these Socialist freaks, like the man who claims to be the current American President…the same freaks who hate the United States and want to change everything that we are (Or rather who we were) and where we came from, need to take their family out of the United States. They can move anywhere else in the world and then they will realize how good we really are. We are “definitely” not perfect…of course, but compared to the rest of the world and also every single country the world has ever had….we are by far the best country the earth has ever experienced. We have our issues and have had our issues, but I am glad I am an American. One last thing…Isn’t that wierd that the man who claims to be President of the USA is named: Barack Saddam Hussein Osama….Whoops, sorry…Freudian Slip. I really meant Barack Hussein Obama. The terrorists that we have been fighting must be laughing their butts off on the fact that we (Not I) elected a man that has that name. GOD-BLESS the True Red-Blooded, Gun-carrying, Bible-carrying, etc… Americans that are out there. One thing though…the biggest problem in America right now is not the “left-wing”, communist, cowards out there. It is the true Americans out there that don’t stand up and speak out. We have to stand up for what we believe in and this pathetic international treaty needs to go away. Lastly, this won’t happen, but if all goes to hell in this world and world society collapses, I will be just happy with my Bible & Guns, knowledge of agriculture, fishing, hunting, etc… I will laugh my butt off at those Left wingers as they spazz out and not know what to do. I guess then we will have to give them a hand and help them out. My family and I, and the good Americans will be living just fine. Like I said…that won’t happen, but it is a funny thought. Take care and stand up against what is wrong and hold your head up high.
I have always been a very positive person; no matter who was in the white house. Im actually very concerned now about our country. I am not a predjudice person and have never been; but I am concerned now with what i read and what i hear. He could be white, yellow, black or purple it doesnt matter. I fear for me and my family. The end sure feels
like it is just around the corner. Am I alone?
ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT IF YOU LOOK HARD AT THOSE COUNTRIES THAT MAKE UP THE ‘INTERNATIONAL TREATY MEMBERS’, THEY ARE GENERALLY COUNTRIES THAT HAVE GOVERNMENTS THAT HAVE THEIR PEOPLE TOTALLY UNDER THEIR THUMBS. THOSE SAME GOVERNMENTS ARE INCENSED THAT WE ARE FREE, AND STILL HAVE AT LEAST A LITTLE SAY IN HOW OUR GOVERNMENT IS RUN. THEY WOULD JUST ‘LOVE’ TO SEE US BE SLAVES LIKE THEIR OWN CITIZENS! BETTER TO DIE ON YOUR FEET THAN TO LIVE ON YOUR KNEES! SEMPER FI!
This is just another step in Obama’s march to becoming not the President but the Dictator of the United States. He campaignes daily on the television, assisted by his loving biased News Media. It is a daily Soap Opera of his Bull Shit, to over throw the wishs and livelyhood of the average Citizen. He is without a doubt TREASONUS , and we the people should start persuring our Senators and Congress to impeach him as soon as possible. But then, when you have his second great back up to contend with, i. e. Polosi, Reed, and Biden, one woders what would really be best. So, most likely the better way to illiminate this problem is litterly to vote out the present Congress and Senate, and get his ass in the next Presidential election. The bad part of this is just how much CAN this ASSHOLE damage our Nation in the mean time? And for you Simper Fi guys, I’m retired Air Force With a hell of a lot of time in VN, I am armed, intend to stay armed and very able to use such if needed.
The efforts by the democrat party, and their current leader, to subvert our voting rights (ACORN abuses, efforts to get illegal aliens to vote, efforts to diminish the military vote, etc.) tax us to death (anything we have that they consider a “benefit” is fair game) and subvert our right to self-protection (look at the unchecked presence of gangs in the US, and the degree of virtually unchecked violent crime, the urban criminal class breeding grounds supported by our money) against an increasingly violent world the left has created, only affirms my conviction that the only way out for us is one that employs the same methods our forefathers did against King George. Ladies and gentlemen, that IS WHY we have the Second Amendment.
What a pile of dog s*#t! We just endured a two-term President who nearly destroyed the country, and you are blasting Obama??? If you pathetic paranoids would turn off FoxNews and try reading history, you might really understand who the international enemy is. The second amendment dogma is continually used to inflame one-issue idiots to support the fascists’ stranglehold on our military and industrial base. Eisenhower warned of the growing might of what he coined as the Miltary-Industrial Complex. We chose to ignore his warning, and we will continue to be the pawns for their exponential expansion.
Both George Bushes belong to the world-wide Tri-Lateral Commission and its U.S. offspring, the Carlyle Group. All of the major wars during the 20th Century were fomented by the Tri-Lateral Commission, with principals like Britain’s Rothschild, Germany’s Krupp, and our very own Bush conspiring to increase their wealth and power by killing off the emerging lower class on the battlefields and cities of Europe.
Another Bush, Geo W’s grandfather, was a U.S. Senator doing business with the Nazis, until Congress, reacting to the bombing of Pearl Harbor, made it illegal to trade with our declared enemies! The Bush Dynasty, and another Tri-Lateralist, Dick Cheney, have tricked a lot of dumbass flag-wavers into fighting and dying for the Bush cause. Follow the dollar – it will take you to oil!
The right-wing is focusing on the present Administration to remove the limelight from the last Administration. Their “spin” is the usual “projection” tactics of blaming the left, liberals, Democrats, socialism, etc (pick one), for their own failures. For example, they always warn not to vote Democrat, because they are “tax and spend” advocates. The reality is the opposite. Republican Administrations spend more taxpayers money, but they do it by increasing the deficit and the national debt. Bush doubled the national debt during his eight years, more than all previous Administrations combined, including the previous record holder, Reagan.
And, if you think crime and loss of individual rights hasn’t expanded under Republican Administrations, think again!
UNITED STATES Need a new name. How about “NORTH CUBA” or “VENEZUELA NORTH”?
OR PERHAPS “GRAND MEXICO”?
This follows the almost immediately after Obama’s administration attempted to destroy re-loadable brass and sell it only as scrap.
BTW the government would be selling the scrap brass for one third the price it would get, if intact.
The US government needs revenue. YET is willing to make one third to one fifth of what it could selling the surplus brass.
What’s up with that?
Wasted revenue is one thing. Want to see something that costs a boat load of dollars to implement and does absolutely nothing for this country in any way, shape, or form? (except remove the US Constitution from the scene)
AND NOW HERE’S YOUR FUTURE AS A “SUBJECT”. NOT AS A “CITIZEN”.
The treaty has the name of “CIFTA”.
Doesn’t sound so bad? Kind of like “NAFTA”? What could be possibly bad about that?
Obama came back from Mexico and urged the immediate ratification of this treaty by congress. This is underway now.
Obama stated during his campaign that he would not be for gun control legislation. He also quickly retracted Eric Holter’s statement, when Holter screwed up and gave away “the plan” by saying he would be seeking another assault weapons ban.
Holter is a rank amateur. He talks too much, and evidently Obama hadn’t shared the plan with him, before he gave that news conference.
Here is how Obama intends to do it:
This treaty does things that could never be passed as legislation in this country.
This treaty requires the registration of all guns, and the Licensing of all gun owners, and all manufacturers of ALL guns and ammunition, even individual home re loaders.
To comply with this treaty, penalties will have to be established for failure to register your guns. Two year jail terms have been suggested for failure to register, and ten year terms for manufacturing without the required license.
Of course the penalties could be much higher, say ten and twenty years. Jail terms don’t have to be set by legislation. Jail terms can be set by regulation. No congressman needs to lose and election by voting on them, he’s just ratifying a treaty.
It requires the NAMES and ADDRESSES of ALL gun owners to be shared among the signing countries.
This means that Hugo Chavez and Raul Castro will know, who you are, where you live, and how many guns you own.
It also means that our dear Hugo Chavez, or Castro can extradite you to his non-corrupt country simply by requesting it. If you read it carefully, you can be extradited to countries the United States have NO extradition treaties with.
All that has to happen is for a gun to be stolen and wind up in another country by any means, and you are off to jail in Venezuela.
Of course none of this information will never reach the hands of any criminal elements because there is no corruption in any South American country.
BTW you can expect the leftist media will be completely silent about this because
this is an “end around” and negates the Second Amendment…… by way of a treaty
excerpts from the treaty:
INTER-AMERICAN CONVENTION AGAINST THE ILLICIT MANUFACTURING OF AND TRAFFICKING IN FIREARMS, AMMUNITION, EXPLOSIVES, AND OTHER RELATED MATERIALS
THE STATES PARTIES,
AWARE of the urgent need to prevent, combat, and eradicate the illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials, due to the harmful effects of these activities on the security of each state and the region as a whole, endangering the well-being of peoples, their social and economic development, and the
For the purposes of this Convention, the following definitions shall apply:
1. “Illicit manufacturing”: the manufacture or assembly of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials:
a. from components or parts illicitly trafficked; or
b. without a license from a competent governmental authority of the State Party where the manufacture or assembly takes place; or
4. “Ammunition”: the complete round or its components, including cartridge cases, primers, propellant powder, bullets, or projectiles that are used in any firearm.
Article IV
Legislative Measures
1. States Parties that have not yet done so shall adopt the necessary legislative or other measures to establish as criminal offenses under their domestic law the illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials.
Article V
Jurisdiction
1. Each State Party shall adopt such measures as may be necessary to establish its jurisdiction over the offenses it has established in accordance with this Convention
Article VII
Confiscation or Forfeiture
1. States Parties undertake to confiscate or forfeit firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials that have been illicitly manufactured or trafficked
Article XIII
Exchange of Information
1. States Parties shall exchange among themselves, in conformity with their respective domestic laws and applicable treaties, relevant information on matters such as:
a. authorized producers, dealers, importers, exporters, and, whenever possible, carriers of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials;
States Parties shall provide to and share with each other, as appropriate, relevant scientific and technological information useful to law enforcement, so as to enhance one another’s ability
Article XIX
Extradition
1. This article shall apply to the offenses referred to in Article IV of this Convention.
2. Each of the offenses to which this article applies shall be deemed to be included as an extraditable offense in any extradition treaty in force between or among the States Parties. The States Parties undertake to include such offenses as extraditable offenses in every extradition treaty to be concluded between or among them.
3. If a State Party that makes extradition conditional on the existence of a treaty receives a request for extradition from another State Party with which it does not have an extradition treaty, it may consider this Convention as the legal basis for extradition with respect to any offense to which this article applies.
4. States Parties that do not make extradition conditional on the existence of a treaty shall recognize offenses to which this article applies as extraditable offenses between themselves.
Since when does the federal Government have a right to enter into a international treaty that, on it’s face, is in direct cnflict with the constitution of the United States? I would think that any clauses in that treaty would be null and void as the constitution is the supreme law of the land and can only be changed through a constitutional convention.
Further, the second ammendment interpretation as recognition of private citizens absolute right to keep and bear arms was affirmed by the supreme court this past year.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I see a great deal of paranoia out there. but just because you THINK they are out to get your guns, doesn’t mean they are NOT..
I, too, believe that the second ammendment was put there to keep us safe from the possible tyranny of our OWN government as well asfrom other threats..
I, for one, have stocked up on all the ammo I can find. As Charlton Heston once stated: “From my cold, dead hands….”
Get us out of the U.N.! Get our elected officials out of our private affairs!
Is there any morality left in anyone? We are being taken over by the world elite and their money is allowing it.
We buy the cheaper products that is produced out of our country own
country because we have to! Little left produced here. Corporate
elite and the world bankers with all their greed have followed what Satan has been leading!
The only reason the elite hasn’t accomplished the complete take over is our second amendment and those that will go down fighting.
But remember this, you might be fighting your own neighbor and or family because they might have that blue helmet on thinking they are fighting
for a good cause. Educate those to follow God and God only, only then shall we be free from Satan’s deciples!
I think, that over the years, we, the American puplic, have become so passive that we have lost the will to stand up for our beliefs. But we must remember, we have the power to change things through our vote and the polls. The American public put Obama in office and now we are getting what we deserve. If we want to change that, then encourage your neighbors, friends and familiy members to get off their dead hind ends and go stand in line at the polls and vote. Spend the time to check out the voting records of the Congressman and Senators you put into office and see if they stand for what you do. If not, then don’t vote for them. We have allow our Constitition to be ammended to the point that it not longer represents what out forefathers intended it to be. We have allow our country to be over run with illegals and there doesn’t seem to be a mind set in Washington to put an end to it. This is really sad. I am not opposed to people coming here from other countries, but it should be done legally.
So, if you do not want this gun treaty rattified, call you Representatives tell them so.
All I can say (as a naturalized american) is that I am saddened by the
fact that native americans, at least according to last elections, did not
want to wake up and smell the coffee on time and went ahead and
made the mistake to vote for these clowns that are distroying, or at
least trying to, everything this country has fought for and stands for.
These people (in government) should be tried and sentenced to life
in prison, to say the least, for doing this to their own country. (now…
is it their country?…, I don’t know anymore, but they sure act like it wasn’t!)
Well I have said it all along, America, it is time to stand up and to take our country back. It is time to start impeachment prodeedings against our incumbent congressional officials, who have been ripping us the American taxpayers off, whe have sat around for the past 9 years and done notheing except to steal from us. Perhaps it is time to have term limits on congressional officials, it is time to take them off the federal payroll and put them on a state payroll, that will put them back in touch with the people they were sent to Washington to represent. There should be no retirement for them, after all the job of congressmen was never intended to be a career. That is just for starters. Think about it America, remember the revolutionary war and why our forfathers fought for our freedoms. Remember no taxation without representation. Well today we have taxation, but we have no representation.
Thank for a great site that consolidates some of the current abuses of power by our government. It seems most people in America don’t have a clue about the limits placed on our the federal government by our Constitution.
In 18th century parlance, the militia was the citizenry. And again in 18th century parlance, the phrase “well regulated” meant well supplied and equipped, not “well regulated” as in subject to a dizzying array of pointless rules governing the cosmetic features of a rifle, for instance (AWB). Hence, the 2nd Amendment continues with “the right of the people to keep and bear arms”, because the preceding statement about the militia is meaningless if the people are infringed upon in their right to bear arms.
Even aside from that, the Second Amendment, and indeed the entirety of the Bill of Rights, does not *give* anyone rights. These amendments exist as an enumeration of the rights that all human beings have by the simple virtue of being alive, and their inclusion in the Constitution is to obligate the government to respect and defend those rights.
Never allow a politician or crusading activist of any stripe convince you that your most basic rights are subject to some ephemeral interpretation of the Constitution, for that is the chicanery of semantics.
I can only feel sorry for Realist and Cutlass ! Realist you need to come out of fantasy land and into reality for awhile and Cutlass you need to watch Fox news more often ! You both are so gullible !!! Have either of you ever heard the saying “When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns!” Or the teachings of an ex Communist leader “If you take away the guns from the public they can’t fight back” (Not sure if those were the exact words but it ends with the same results !) If you look at all the federal and state laws ,existing and recently enacted as of this year(1 state in particular Ohio which I reside in ) you will see that we are as close to Communism as can be with out calling it that . Sure we can own a gun in ,(for now) but with all the existing legislation over guns the only arms we can bare is when we role up our sleeves !
No Carolyn the end is not near but things are going to get a lot worse we’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg! I wonder how Obutma plans to control the wildlife when no one can afford to buy ammunition to hunt or can own a gun?
I’ll stick with my archery. I never cared for guns. Too expensive and noisy. I think the fear of suddenly having a shaft of wood sticking into your body is a lot more scary than that of being shot. Bows are less expensive, more stealthy and personal and one can make his own equipment if need be from what nature provides.
Another advantage is that in archery a much higher skill level is necessary to be effective. Anyone can drop an Elk or an Elephant with a big enough cannon but with an arrow it becomes less certain, a more even match, a bit more of a challenge.
Oh my opinions voiced here are largely the result of my service in ‘Nam in ‘67 and ‘68 and ‘69 and during my time in law enforcement.
My only fear in guns is that we may become like some countries in the Middle East where guys carry AK’s everywhere they go as a matter of fact. That would scare the shit out of me. Those who want to own full automatic weapons should, as a matter of responsibility, register them. They are too damned dangerous. Very little skill is required to do lots of damage.
The day that i just hand over my guns to some foriegn military or police in my own country is never going to happen. They might pry it from my dead cold hands, but that is the only way they are going ot get it.
To give it to or have it taken by force from my own country men would be even more disgraceful.
W.W. Buster Hummel
U.S. A. F. 1967-1974
U.S. B.P. 1977 – 2003
U.S.A. 1948 – ????
It is ridiculous that we were warned prior to this past election, about this guy. And yet there are enough idiots in this country who still voted him in! Read your Bibles, we all have been warned that the anti-Christ will run this country and that will bring the end. HELLO!! I was born and raised Right-Wing Republican, I AM PROUD OF THAT! My grandfather owns a well-known Gun Factory, he served this country in WWII, he has fought many battles in his life both here and abroad. It is sad that we are allowing these pigs to ruin everything that he, thousands of veterans, and gun companies have literally and metaphorically killed themselves to give us. Shouldn’t we all feel ashamed of that?! We all should pray that this president and his successors don’t stay very long, or we’d better kiss our asses good-bye!!!!
I’m ex-Navy, member of the NRA and armed to the hilt. I’m a patriot like my late father and will NOT become a slave of the left socialist movement. They can kiss my fat, hairy ass. I hope the idiots that voted Obama in are happy now. Maybe we can get his sorry ass out of Washington in a few years, hopefully before he ruins our wonderful country…
I’m ex-Navy, member of the NRA and armed to the hilt. I’m a patriot like my living father and I disapprove of Obama’s position on gun control. Obama won’t have a chance to ruin our wonderful country because George HW beat him to it. Obama’s election was simply a public backlash against the corrupt and criminal Republican Administration that preceeded him, an administration that violated many more of our freedoms than simply the second amendment. Until the Republican Party cleans up it’s act, there will be many more Obama’s to come.
Here’s a mouthful: The Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives and other Related Items.
Politicos get turned on by long titles such as that one which refers to a……
To JPS – on machine guns, they aren’t registered as a matter of responsibility, but as a matter of law. Since 1968, that was the last amnesty to get them registered. Do criminals have them? You betcha, they also have drugs, in case you have been sleeping through that one, too. Honest folks? At a Federal penalty of 10 years or $250K, what do you think? Most of us haven’t got either to spare!
And take mine from me? Sorry, not today, and not tomorrow, or the tomorrow after that, either. Don’t even think about it.
As much as I hope it never happens in my lifetime, I am ready and willing to defend my rights as enumerated by some pretty intelligent folks 200+ years ago. And as much as I feel sorry for your ignorance of the truth, I am willing to defend your rights to think as you do.
Archery is fine, but you might as well wear your arrows somewhere dark, they aren’t going to help you against even an untrained person with a gun. Haven’t seen a broadhead yet that does 2800 fps, or only drops 2″ at 200 yards.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
I will happily give up my last gun when it is removed from my bloody, dead, cold fingers. This government is scared of only one thing–We The People. That is the reason the government must take our guns away from us. Pretty simple.
I will happily give up my last gun when it is removed from my bloody, dead, cold fingers. This government is scared of only one thing–We The People. That is the reason the government must take our guns away from us. Pretty simple.
Realist
Thats what the Brits said about the colonist when they took on the most powerful military in the world and won. Thats what Johnson said about the little guys in their black pajamas and we all know who won that one. DC does not have the will to win, as soon as a few men drop DC will wave the white flag of surrender. The liberals are in control, that works in our favor they don’t have what it takes to win except when it comes to spending money, then we might loose.
With my guns I am a citizen, without my guns I will be a subject….if I get to live.
I have been labled a “right-wing” extremist! I am a vet, I believe in my Constitution and riights, I am “anti” illegal immigration, I do have a bible, and am registerered Independent….but it seems B.O. and administration can put whatever lable they want on us. Oh well!
Cutlass-You are right about Bush. That is our problem. There hasn’t been a two party system in years. They speak differently, but govern the same. Bush was however only exceeding the speed limit by 10mph. Obama is increasing it by 100mph.
So what is your thought, sit back and let our country go to hell, because Bush was a bad president?
Are you seriously denying that Obama’s policies are extremely Socialistic. Can you point to one Socialist nation in the world that is doing very well, whose citizens are happy and productive? You can’t, because there are none.
Socialism, fascism, Communism have all been around since virtually the start of societies. THEY DON’T WORK. They imprison there own people, they destroy liberty and freedom and ideas, they take away incentive and think that by slave labor they can produce quality goods–NO WAY.
Obama is spending 100 times more in his first hundred days in office than bush spent in his entire two term administration AND THE ADMNISTRATIONS OF EVERY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM. That is not to defend Bush, only to point out that Obama makes Bush look like a pussy in the ways of leading this country down a slippery slope into the abyss of a totalitarian government.
I have read the Federalist papers which really give one a better idea of the INTENT of the Founders of our Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights. They would absolutely flip over in their graves to see what we have become and where we are headed.
Extremism occurs on both the left and right in this country. But it is the LEFT whose policies have had the most impact on the evils that currently exist. Outcome based education, policies and teachings in our schools from kindergarten to graduate school that has become more propaganda than teaching. Coddling of criminals, legalized abortion by mandate from a liberal-leftist supreme court, government entitlements never envisioned by our Founding Fathers. I could go on and on but I won’t. You couldn’t be convinced anyway, because you are just as dogmatic as you claim most of the writers herein are.
Most of the people who are responding negatively to what is occurring in our present government, are doing so out of genuine concern for where we are headed.
A country HAS NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND spent its way out of a recession. No country has EVER successfully printed money and successfully solved the problems in its economy.
President Obama’s policies are threatening the very foundations of this government. The fear is, that even before he can be voted out of office, the damage will have been too severe for any recovery to take effect for years. if ever.
You seem to be the typical “liberal elitist” who thinks that anyone who is a patriot, disagrees with abortion, or homosexual marriage, is an idiot. Well sir/madam, idiots come in many sizes, shapes, colors and ideologies. Take a good look in the mirror.
Take a good look at your current president and quit listening to the flowery speeches he presents from his speech writers on teleprompters and start WATCHING what he is doing. If you come to the conclusion that his policies are good for this country, then consider yourself an IDIOT just as you think the writers herein are.
Good job Realist, The Commander in the Movie Red Dawn was Cuban. It does not matter though, because if your skin color is not white and you have a background other than Anglo-Saxon you are S.O.L. They have been like since they landed on Plymouth Rock. We are suppose to believe that all men are created equal? You took Indian Lands and had blacks as slaves then took Texas,New Mexico,Utah,Nevada, Arizona,California,and Colorado away from our neighbors to the South. We still live on barren wastelands in deserts and other land that the Anglo-Saxons did not want.
Your excuse is always, “That wasnt us and that was along time ago.”
We have a Black President and I know that is a hard pill to swallow, but deal with it! What about Bush- Cheney? Why are you not up in arms asking for an investigation on all their wrong doings… and You know what they have done to our country….This is not a Rambo-Red Dawn movie. We are not going to have our guns taken away and no “Terrorist” or Mexican is going to jump off a plane and land in Texas, to invade the Lone Star State. The reality is that as a proud American Indian, the Anglo-Saxon race, is a most suprising one. We were made aware that your character (some not all) still displays so much pusillanimity. Our enemy are the rich, because the rich,in their own interrest ,either control the government directly or control the laws by which government operates.
WE NEED TO GET HUSSIAN OBOMA OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE NEXT ELECTION OR WE WILL BE SORRY FOR THE REST OF OUR LIFE.AND OUR KIDS AND GRAND KIDS WILL PAY THE PRICE.WE NEED TO PROTECT THE 2ND. AMMENDMENT BUT THAT IS NOT ALL.WE STAND TO LOOSE A LOT MORE OF OUR FREEDOMS.WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE WILL BE AT RISK IF HE CONTINUES TO SWAY CONGRESS IN HIS FAVOR???HE SPOKE OF CHANGE WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.THE CHANGE HE SPOKE OF WAS NOT PEOPLE AS MANY THOUGHT.HE HAS PUT ALL OF BILL CLINTONS PEOPLE IN POSITIONS IN GOVERNMENT.THE SAME ONES THAT HELPED SEND ALL OF OUR JOBS TO CHINA AND MEXICO.PLEASE WAKE UP!!!!
We are fast approaching the point at which our military and civil police are going to be required to make their choice known…
To uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States” including the 2nd Amend.
or
“To support that anti-American policies of some in this administration if these or similair laws are passed.
Generals and Chiefs, state your position: 80,000,000 gun owners are waiting.
MY FAMILY IS TAKING VACATION IN SEPTEMBER O9, 9.12.09 WE WILL STANDING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE WHITE HOUSE WITH PROOER PERMITTING ALREADY IN PLACE, OUR SIGNS WILL REFLECT OUR MESSAGE, WE HOPE THEY WILL BE ONE MILLION, NINETY-NINE THOUSAND, NINE HUNDRED NINETY- NINE BRAVE ENOUGH TO BE THERE WITH US.
THERE WERE APPX. THIS MANY TO WELCOME THIS MARXIST/SOCIALIST INTO THE WHITEHOUSE, CAN WE HAVE JUST AS MANY BRAVE ENOUGH TO ASK HIM TO GET OUT, RESIGN OR BE IMPEACHED AND REMOVED.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO HE IS OR WHERE HE CAME FROM, BUT THERE IS NO GOOD IN HIM, HIS AGENDA IS TOTALLY UN-AMERICAN.
The really scary thing is I prefer Obama over that idiot Biden and Queen Nancy scares the shit out of me. I will never be constipated with these three in power.
As Charlton Heston once said “they can have my guns when they pry them from my cold dead hands” and not before!
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Think IMPEACHMENT NOW – before it’s too late. There’s more than enough hard facts to warrant it!
All the Anti-Constitution, 1st, 2nd, etc Amendment Rights, Anti-Capitalism power grabs, Anti-Individual Freedom, Anti-Common Sense “Obama Administration Actions”, SO FAR. Not to mention the Monitary grabs, Fraud and Corruption.
Wake-Up America !!!
Obama might be a bit smarter than idiot Biden and delerious Nancy who scares the shit out of me. If she really wants to go green, she needs to be taking a broom of all natural materials instead of the Air Force jet.
Can you say TOTAL CONTROL of all civil rights as we know them. By nibbling at the edges of liberty and recieving little or no push back from the American people, Obama desires and hunger for more control will only grow.
It is true what OBAMA stands for – OneBigAssMistakeAmerica and the sooner Obama, Joe, Nancy and the rest of the Idiot Angels move on the sooner we can return to getting this country back on course.
Hide your kitchen knives and baseball bats- they will be next to be declared as lethal weapons.
We need to get this congress and the leader of our country out of their office.They not only are destroying everything our countrymen and women have fought for,now they want to take away our rights and private business.How much more damage will Obama and this congress cause us.
You should read the Second Amendment a few times more yourself. Then consider the “REAL intent of the Framers of the “About to be run through the shredder Document.”
It was intended to allow the people to defend themselves against a tyranical government who are clearly acting toward the interest of the State rather then those of the citizens of the “Republic for which it stands.”
So to be direct with you. You are showing your true intentions as a troller on this blog and I will stand up to you quickly and point out your “statist view.” It’s very evident to anyone who considers themselves a Constitutionalist that you are merely a plant and a sham trying to align yourself with this conservative group. Forget it, Take two weeks off, then quit. Now go read a few more chapters of Saul Alinski. Your not yet clever enough to escape our scrutiny.
This is another attempt to make this a socialist country and obama want to be the dictator and looks like hes doing a good job of it. the next election we have to vote out the demacrats they are money hungry thieves and power hungry
No guns? Lead the way BO. Disarm your Secret Service. The safety of your ass is not any more valuable than anyone else’s.
If we can have our 2nd Amendment Constitutional rights taken away by international treaty then that can happen to all of our rights.
Obama is moving toward his new world order with frightening swiftness. Within his first term look at see other international treaties that will invalidate our Constitution. He is in the process of selling out America to world-wide totalitarianism in his quest for total world-wide power.
Obama must be impeached and the first, and perhaps only hope to stop him is to elect all Republican Congressmen in 2010, and that may not even be enough.
Let’s not forget that we are one heartbeat away from a liberal Supreme Court. His newest pick has said that as a wise Latina woman she can make better decisions than a white male because of her background.
Our second amendment guarentees that no Government shall over throw the people of the USA. That includes the United States Government. Everyone in the USA either gun advocates or other people should be up in arms that our own goverment wants to control our lives. This is why we fought for freedom from England and other countries who wanted to control us. Maybe all government employees should take a course in US History. PS GOD BLESS AMERICA
Has anyone here actually read this? By this I am refering to the actual document in which Obama has urged passage upon? I;m assuming no due to the fact that every response here is refering to a socialistic pseudo-military regime taking over and our guns being haulled away en masse. Fact: Registration of fire arms makes it easier for detection thereof – Myth: Registration of fire arms means I can’t hunt, or defend my home ever again. Get with the program people, this is not a 1984 movement, this is smart politics. Guns will always be around, the government won’t spend the 13,000,000,000 neccessary to take away all legalized and registered firearms; They sure as hell will not take away 5 times that amount (that is 65,000,000,000 for those of you who didn’t graduate) thats not including labor gentlemen. Be realistic, the second ammendment will always be around, whether it be strict reading or a supreme court filled with justices practicing judicial activism, IT WON’T LEAVE!!!
But having 30 other nations respect us more sure as hell won’t hurt our situation, if anyone has ever watched a network other than fox, you’ll see that our country is not the most popular! If we can do anthing to counteract the hatred of america, that’s a GOOD thing. Cyberbalkanization is going to spread that america is taking a firm stance against domestic violence like wildfire. Be realistic, this is a good idea: We keep our guns, and look good in front of the rest of the world.
This administration and the Democratic Congress is on a plan to destroy our liberties and freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution. I hope all you out these that voted for these socialists are happy with your “Change Now”!
First of all, Ryan Smith, your an Idiot! Go ask Australia how it worked out for them. “F” the 30 other nations and what they think! We’re talking about our founding fathers and what OUR COUNTRY was built on! Keep your head burried in the sand and we’ll call you if we need you. Or you can just wait until it’s all over and then thank us!
I own every popular Caliber weapon made. 9mm, .40 S&W, .45ACP, .223, 7.62X39, .308, etc…..
I will build my Ammo reserve by taking what the fallen foreign troops leave behind. .223 will feed through any .223 caliber weapon, same goes for 9mm, .45ACP, 7.62X39, etc………. As they drop them we will pick them up, load them, and center punch the next foreign asswipe in line.
Everyone needs to realize if we don’t make a stand against Obama and his circle of ass kissers this could damage America.
Thank you, Joan Hough. What an inspiration you are. You speak for many and for the liberals, too, if they only knew the truth. I certainly enjoyed your response. Thanks, again … Sam
I heard something about or second amendment rights in the constitution and how its there to protect the people from an opressive government. I also heard that no democracy has lasted longer than 200 years.
Perhaps WE THE PEOPLE need to take control of our government?
Its sad that this once great country is quickly falling into a second class country, and if it continues, we will be a third world nation.
Manufacturing made America great after WW2 and there was almost nothing that America did not make. It made America a wealthy nation.
Then we trained all the other countries how to manufacturer everything better than we could and they had cheaper labor.
Today China is quickly becoming the not only the most piowerful nation, but the wealthiest too. Just wait until their aircraft carriers are operational. We have only ourselves and our politicians to thank.
Stop dismanteling America’s weath generator, MANUFACTURING! Give it a break and some relief from the EPA, CARBON TAXES, ETC and take the heavy burden from around its neck and let it get well again.
It will take years if everything went very well, but we know its not going well.
i have a pistol in my truck 45 year never have fire shot at any one you might say why do you carry it there away something we don’t no about just like rigth now. who no what next. i will not use that gun for nothing but my self defend or to help other who would need to defend. we must lift the lord up in all we do he his our only help. gov. well kill us–b c alexander
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Ryan Smith… better check up on what Britain, Australia and Canada have spent to make their nations gun-free and to rid their society of evil… and it didn’t work. Their governments are confused (no surprise there) about why it didn’t work, and what to do now… (Britain is now looking at taking away knives, and anything that can be used as a “weapon”)… they might take and try our Constitution, it seems we don’t have much use for it anymore… or at least for the next few years, anyway. VOTE, PEOPLE!! And get all of your like-minded people out there to vote… take your family, friends, old people… whoever, and VOTE NEXT TIME AND GET THESE LIBERAL DUMB-A*** OUT OF OFFICE… SHORT OF A FULL-BLOWN REVOLUTION, IT IS THE ONLY WAY WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS!!!
God Bless. Joe Lamb, U.S. Army, RVN, DAV
One more … Mr. Smith, I have gone back several times to reread your post, looking for your point and logic. After repeated readings I can only come to one conclusion, Mr. Reno is right. You need a HEAVY dose of reality, truth and exposure to other human beings whose beliefs don’t sound like a recording of you… Good luck with that!
The more Obama and his libtard brothers try to ruin this country, the bigger the backlash we can expect when the last of his hippie sheep followers finally see him for what he really is. That day is fast approaching and he’s going to wish he had something to protect himself with.
patriots ; the constitution is a document that is on a piece of paper BUT it came from the hearts and minds of men that understood the way that people should live and run a nation . remember our forefathers came from Europe which is a failed system always was always will be , you can not make a silk purse out of a sows ear no mater how you work with it .
the government in Washington is destroying the constitution , as we write to each other via the internet . be of a strong heart , they and us have no idea the amount of blood of patriots and tyrants that will drench the soil of America if we can not get rid of the elitist that are in the house of representative , senate and the presidentsy they have only contempt for us .
let us follow the states that have rejected the rule of the federal government that is out side of their very limited power , like Montana , Utah , Texas , Tennessee , and soon to be others .
get hold of your governors they are empowered by the people of their states . it is a very powerful office , so back them with your voice , of the fact your tired of the feds walking rough shod over him/her and our sovereign state . we will back them to get the legislation done to inform the feds they have no power over us and reject their unconstitutional legislation that is selling us down the road of socialism through treaties with other nation that we have bailed out of so many problems that socialism brought on them .
remember the federal government is buying (as in $$$$ ) the hearts and minds of the unthinking masses and they must be stopped . if all else fails them let us pick up our arms as a nation and deal with the traitors .
Larry D. Avery
To all concerned, Our country has gone to h—- in a handbasket!!! Everyone and I mean Everyone should send this email and all the comments to the Whitehouse first and then to you elected officials in your state . Complaining in emails does no good except to spread the truth, which is very important but, taking the above action lets Our Federal officials and our state officials hear directly from citizens. It will take a little of your time to find the email addresses of these officials but, it will be well worth it. If you don’t want to email, write a letter to all these officials.
GUNS DON’T KILL PEOPLE,,,,PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE…DON’T BLAME IT ON OUR GUNS..BLAME IT ON THE IDIOTS THAT CAN’T FIGHT WITH THERE HANDS HAVE TO GO THE COWARDLY AND CHICKENSHIT WAY AND USE GUNS…BY ALL MEANS IF TOWEL HEADS OR OR FOREIGN INVADES OUR COUNTRY EXPECT TO CATCH SOME BMG .50 CAL TRACERS AND INCEN. TIPS FLYING AT A DEADLY PACE AND ACCURATELY.OBAMA IS JUST A PUPPET FOR HILLARY TO RUN THE SHOW.HOW MANY PRESIDENTS TAKE A TELEPROMPTER WHEREVER THEY GO?? HE NEEDS A SPEAK AND SPELL….
Look people, the Government does not want to empower the individual. They are afraid of the individual. They have admitted they are afraid of their veterans. The Government is against the people and not for them. It has been this way since WWI and that idiot President, Wilson. The police do not want us owning guns. I cannot figure that out. How many people are gunned down in their own homes while still on the 911 line while the operator is having a problem believing them and telling them to calm down during a life and death circumstance. All people who are sane and not a felon should be armed. PERIOD.
People, we can point the finger at past and present. We have to start focusing
on the real problem.
Senator Ron Paul has started a movement and many in the Senate have
joined him in requiring an audit on the Federal Reserve. It is neither Federal
nor has any Reserve. It is private and has never been audited. After it is
audited the move will be to have Congress Resume their job of creating
money for America and not some private bankers with no oversight. It has
been going on since 1913 under Pres. Woodrow Wilson’s signature.
When others create your money, you are already in trouble. It has been
used to buy America, Americans at all levels of leadership, American Businesses
and Banks. Find out who the Central Bankers are. You will know who is in
control of the future.
If you want to know who is moving America to the Future go to http://www.4rie.com. The Federal Reserve is private. Neither Federal
nor does it have a Reserve. It controls the economy, value of the
dollar and creates same. Congress needs to resume control of the
Central Bank and creating money for America. We don’t need to be
paying interest on America’s own Money.
“Those who want to own full automatic weapons should, as a matter of responsibility, register them.”
Statements like this show me one of two things – first option is it was written by a plant (not a gun owner) or by someone who is CLUELESS about the laws of our nation. Full autos (real assualt weapons) have been HIGHLY regulated in the US since 1934! (via the NFA of ‘34)
This treaty is just one more large step into converting the US into just another thrid-world nation. Sorry to say, I think His Self-Appointed Royal Obamanation has successfully done that to us with all his drunken sailor spending from which we will NOT be able to recover from. Heck, China has told us to stop spending and Pravda is publishing articles about us giving away our freedom :without a whimper” so why are Americans so stupid? Lazy is probably the only answer!!!
….cold dead fingers……not when the Constitution is dead (it effecitvely is already) or any other lame pansy “tail” statement……..cold dead fingers.
I am thinking of this as General Chesty Puller, USMC, might have looked at it: Foreign Troops will be given the names and addresses of gun owners in the United States. How many foreign troops will there be? How many gun owners in the United States? First of all the foreign troops will be outnumbered, probably out gunned and I know out shot as we’re better marksmen than they. So as Chesty Puller might have said in a situation such as this. Let them have our names, then we won’t have to go looking for them; they will come to us. By attrition, they will run out of foreign soldiers first if only one foreign soldier is killed going to every 10th gun owners house.
History says that Politicians have always been terrified by weapons that might be used to end their reign ands control of society. Making firearms illegal is the first step in total control. The police are very good at taking reports but are seldom around when needed. They are also not responsible for “individual” safety, but only for the good of the public. If you disagree with the above please try reading history again.
Any liberal needs to realize that registration of guns will only lead to further regulations. Polititions know that registration will not help decrease crime because criminals normally do not use lawfully bought guns. If they do use them their normally stolen. It will only stop the citizens from getting guns and lawful citizens rarely commit crimes. Criminals will still get their guns illegally so registration will not decrease crime. So all it does it let foreign troops know what american citizens have guns and what types. Why do we want them to know? I do not care if other countries don’t like us because we have more freedom than they do. Honestly what type of excuse is that, register our guns so other countries can like us, seriously………..
This is just like him to try and control the public in another way. We as american’s need to take control of all departments of goverment by voting every one out and starting over. This means everyone. From our Governors to the President. And hope the we can get some good people in those offices to work for us and not their pockets. So to sume it all up AMEN to all above and those to come. they might get my name but thats it.well maybe my life for a good cause.
It is NOT going to be approved! You can not do this to U. S. Citizens and expect to get away with it. We can still vote! And will hold you to account if you attempt to foist this dastardly “treaty” upon us.
Apparently this video has raised some eyebrows. As it should. But I see there is as much confusion as there are postings. Ryan Smith… If you read the treaty as you said you did, then I am assuming that all that legal mumbo-jumbo just completely confused you, as it was intended. If your father gave you his hunting rifle that was handed down from his father etc., and any of them failed to notify the “Authorities” of the transfer, then you are in possesion of an illegal weapon, or explosive or incendiary device. This treaty, as many of our recent laws, are written in ways that can pretty much make anyone a criminal.
Yes, I feel confused, and violated like many other Americans. This country is being assaulted from all sides, “Taxes”,”Outsourcing”, “Illegal Imigration”, “The Patriot Act”, “NAFTA”, “Gun Control”: The list is very long, and it started a long time ago. Some say the civil War, some say when the Federal Reserve was created. If you read the Federalist Papers, and the Jefferson Letters, You might come to the understanding that even way back then some Federalists believed the constitution was a great hinderance to the Idea of a Central Government. And they wanted to abolish it! That’s why the The Federal Government was divided into three branches and the Constitution and it’s Bill of rights was “The Rule of Law”. To be obeyed and protcted by the Legislative and Administrative branches, and to be protceted and interpreted only by the Judicial branch. That’s why it took ten years to finish the constitution.
Any amendment to the Constitution has to be ratified by two thirds of the States in order to become law.
And from the little I know, “Any law that is an abomination to the Constitution is therefore Unconstitutional and is illegal.” This was a ruling from the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, circa 1890; or around there. My memory fails me, but I think it was O.W. Holmes or D. Webster.
Ok… Enough with the history lesson. What can we do? We can Impeach! Why wait for the next election? Obama has yet to provide proof of citizenship, he is attempting to make law, treaties with other countries, many of which are in violation of our constitution. Both of which are “Impeachable.” An attempt was made to Impeach Bush and his father, both of which failed, mostly because of government denial and interferance. Impeach members of Congress and the Senate for failing to uphold the Constitution and ignoring their constituants, for perpertating fraud on the American people, for failing to protect our borders, for failing to uphold and enforce our immigration laws, and failing to enforce our criminal laws. These are impeachable offenses. When you impeach, you deny these fat cats the benifits they voted for themselves, if you wait till next election and vote them out you just give them their outrageous retirement benifits. Why do that?
We (the American People) seem to have a weakness for voting for the best sound byte they see of TV. what a waste of your vote. Some will go by party lines.. Another sad waste of votes. America PAY ATTENTION, do your homework and vote for the person who either has a record of protecting American Sovereinty or isn’t on the the Corporate payroll. Voting for the Democrats or the Republicans is basically voting for the same ole’ “change”. Americans are going to be eating that for some time… Abolish the Federal Reserve. The biggest destructive force facing Americans. Re-establish the gold standard and kick out the World Bank. Some of our representatives favor this move I.E. Ron Paul & Ralph Nader, In my opinion great Americans, and patriots to boot!
And last but not least… If you have been educated by our great public education system since the mid 60’s, you need to be re-educated. Remember “only a well informed and educated people can rule wisely”(Thomas Jefferson) and “If you have to ask what rights you have; You have none” (Benjamin Franklin).
Shawnee Tecumseh: Please have a look at http://www.nativeamericansagainstobama.org. Deb McCleod, who runs the site, was a sister PUMA, along with me and millions of other (mostly now former) Democrats. We were hip to Obama’s bullsh*t, especially those of us who witnessed the ACORN-led thuggery, intimidation, harassment, and CHEATING (in every way imaginable) at our Dem caucuses. Bobo STOLE the nomination, and the mainstream media refused to report the truth.
And if you watched the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting, May 31, 2008 (aka the day democracy died), you know that Herr Doktor Dean and the Gang of Losers rigged it. I know indigenous people have many a legitimate gripe, and I champion First Nation people in every way that I can, and have done so for decades (letters for Leonard, mentoring a Navajo student, etc.). The same kind of tyrannic govt that screwed your people is what we have now. Obama is no friend to native America. No cheating, lying thug ever could be. But don’t listen to this olive-skinned person. Check out NAAO (link above).
I’m now a registered nonpartisan. I’ll never again belong to a pol party–EVER! I may believe in things people here don’t (let gays get married, legalize pot already), but I am for ALL personal freedoms, including the Second Amendment, which Jefferson said was specifically for the purpose of defending against just such the kind of govt we now have.
I’m a firsthand witness/survivor of 9/11, and I won’t suffer terrorists or fools lightly. Furthermore, I don’t think we should be spending a penny on illegals–from ANYWHERE. We should, I believe, refunnel that money to helping First Nation people get a leg up and taking care of all other citizens who are dependent thru no fault of their own (wounded and elderly Vets, physically and mentally disabled, and the elderly who don’t have a pot to p*ss in.
Don’t think because Obama is half black (and, I might add, nothing at all like the black kids I grew up with in the 1960s–they laugh at his claims of being African American) that he’s going to do right by native Americans. Open your eyes and ears to all the information. Search for truth, no matter where you find it. And, again, don’t listen to me, but lend NAAO your ear. See what they have to say.
And to everyone else here: not all Democrats are idiots. Many of us knew from the outset that Obama has no respect whatsoever for the Constitution. We saw him for the Chicago-thug-pol that he is. And even if he was born in Hawaii, we know that his having been a student in Indonesia at a time when ONLY Indonesian CITIZENS were allowed to go to school there, followed by his never having taken the Oath of Citizenship upon his return to the States, disqualifies him for the presidency. And several million of us know firsthand that ACORN rigged the caucuses for him. He did NOT win the nomination. Given all the PUMA votes for McCain, had Repubs and conservatives not either sat home, crossed over, or voted third party, we wouldn’t be facing this dilemma.
I’ll be buying a gun soon, and learning how to use it from two good friends who are sharpshooters. Our country may not be perfect, but it’s the best there ever was, and we can make it even better. I’m not gonna stand by idly while some America-hating pr*ck and his henchmen who usurped the White House try to bring down what the Founders established. The second American Revolution is at hand. I’ll stand with you!
I was voting Republican when most of you still had shit in your britches! Reading these posts it’s no wonder why our Party has lost so many members. Anytime something comes up about guns, look at all the radicals that come out stating they are going to shoot or stab someone. This is madness!! It’s no wonder why some in government want to put limits on gun ownership when they see the kinds of posts they see here! This is what the liberal media and the Obama/Pelosi supporters wants to see and hear so they can label us as “ultra-conservative”, which scares the hell out of the vast majority of American citizens.
I don’t know whether the 2nd amendment truly states that everyone has the Right to keep and bear arms of any kind of weapon they feel they should be able to own, frankly I don’t really care, this is a gray area in our Constitution. But I say don’t listen to a lot of these nuts! The government has no plans now or in the future to take your “legal” weapons away from you, besides, the gun ban liberals aren’t stupid enough to try!
But there has to be limits in a free society! There needs to be harsh penalities if arms dealers in Texas and elsewhere sell weapons and ammo to the Mexican’s shooting it out on “OUR” borders. Or like I read in the paper recently, where some thugs go to gun shows buy whatever they can get their hands on, then sell them to gang members who are responsible for destroying their neighborhoods. These 2 examples are commonsense, right??
I’m behind gun ownership all the way, but I see nothing wrong with “reasonable” background checks and waiting periods. Hopefully by using commonsense we can avoid another school shooting, or another innocent person getting killed.
All this bloviating about how your gonna kick azz is a waste of time. You need to write your representatives now and everyday. If we flood the House and Senate with letters & E-Mail they will get the idea.
The majority of the people writting in is stuck on the 2nd ammendment, of which i’m 100% for, but don’t mention much about the real reason our
Great Country started faltering. When the liberals turned their backs on God and the rest of the Country let them get away with it was when We really started going down hill. Take all religious symbols out of Schools, no mention of the TEN COMMADMENTS, athetists demanding God never be mentioned (what are they afraid of), taking Christ out of Christmas. Muslimism being taught in some public schools, but Judeo-Christian subjects forbidden in the same schools. I could go on and on but unless we as a Country get serious about these things I’m afraid we’ve lost. Something like 86% of Americans believe in GOD, why are we afraid to stand up to a measly 14%. REMEMBER WE ARE–”ONE NATION UNDER GOD”
I don’t care what anyone does, I will keep my guns until I die. I have asworn oath to defend my country and youcan’t defend your country with a can opener. Marijuana should be legalized. peace out, Marijuana max
I am a Marine Corps veteran of OIF I & II. Come and take them from my cold dead hands! I am ready, I stand by my local militia organized within my surrounding counties to resist tyranny when it comes knocking. God help the pour souls that I will deliver unto him who do not have his blessing in their actions.
I shed a new tear each day I flip on the news as I watch pieces of this country eaten by the left.
This is the first step the communism has always used to suppress and control the people. This is not the USSR and we don not want to become a communistic people.
If our guns are taken away from us the criminals will always find a way to still have guns and put the rest of society at risk.
Our founding father made sure we would be able to defend ourselves against oppression and we cannot fail to stand up for our rights.
What other countries do and their laws should not dictate how “Our Rights” which are are protected by the Constitution, are applied on any matter, let alone gun control. If you take our ‘right to bear arms’ away, only criminals or possible dictators will have control. It is time “We The People” are heard.
What part of “shall not be infringed” don’t they understand. The Second Amendent means that they can’t require any licence, registration, limit or tax that in any way has anything to do with the right keep and carry firearms, and that includes ammunition.
Enough is enough! The Second Amendment is not now nor never was a “gray area” of any kind. The architects of the Constitution as a whole and the Bill of Rights understood that the right to keep and bear arms was essential to a free people (”free state”). They were successful in the Revolution only because they were armed citizens and as such able to resist what they considered abusive government. The placement of the amendment, second out of ten, indicates how vital the drafters of the Constitution believed the “right to keep and bear arms” was. The document does not “give” the right to keep and bear arms rather it implies that right is “unalienable” and as such cannot be “infringed”.
The only way we as a people can become slaves to a tyrannical government is by trusting our elected representatives to act in our collective best interests. The politicians must be watched closely and held accountable for their actions and re-called or replaced when necessary.
Stop listening to the “spin” regarding the Constitution and read the document for your self.
Thanks for gun shows across this Great Country of ours. So many people have been buying guns & ammo through individuals (no paperwork involved) that big brother can’t track them all. Hell they can’t track 12 million illegal aliens. We can straighten this mess out in Nov 2012.
At some point “We the People” must say enough is enough!! We are losing our country at the speed of light now!! Even though the politicians may eventually say we no longer have 2a, us AMERICANS can still have it and believe in it and fight for it. Perhaps our government is the one that needs to be relieved of duty and taken out of our constitution. We can still fight for what we believe in. The system of electing people to represent us does not work as all people running for office seem to be corrupt before they are even running for an office anymore. I am not a military man but I am a volunteer firefighter and a proud American and Texan!! There is no heart more pure than that of a volunteer!! All of you U.S.M.C and other military people. I am with you and will follow you into battle. You all are heroes of this country!! IF GOD IS WITH US, WHO CAN BE AGAINST US!!!
Career politicians and the circumstances in which we now find ourselves are the direct result of ignorance on the part of voters. I think if you don’t care enough about the political process to learn about the candidate and his background, you shouldn’t be voting at all.
When you have grown people who vote on the basis of how someone carries himself and how his voice sounds – in addition to making themselves feel “good” about voting for a minority – you have a recipe for scrapping our freedoms, now being carried out as hastily as they can make it happen. And for you shallow-minded imps who would accuse me of racism, know this: I’d give anything if Thomas Sowell were our president instead of the current dedicated Marxist.
Patriots, get your weapons and ammo secured, somehow, somewhere. We’re going to need them as soon as they think they’ve found them all. And that’s when I expect the defecation to hit the mixmaster.
All I can say is the government can kiss my ass. I will die 1st before they take my guns away. I have always been & always will be a law abiding citizen. But my guns protect me from criminals, terrorist & the government. The people either better get ready to die for what they believe in or become slaves to a bunch of people that are suppose to be our servants not our rulers. Remember 1 thing people we will not leave this world alive. It is better to go out of this world for a cause & tried to do something about it than to just go out like a whipped pup with your tail between your legs. The government has already said everyone of us that disagree with the government are considered terrorist in their view, so watch your back. You never know whats coming.
We may need to fight for our Constitution and country to stop these One Worlders from destroying us? Are we going to wait until all of our rights are gone and we are reduced to Stone Age weapons to fight with? By then there wont be enough of us left to do anything? Those who love the USA as I do are going to need to pick a side and I fear sooner rather than later? Otherwise the United States will be a bygone country ruled by 3rd worlders under a One World flag, no more Stars and Stripes, no more freedom, no more Constitution! Just a region in a world dictatorship in which we will be merged with Canada and Mexico! Thats the future unless enough of us stand up and say enough? I pray that people wake up out of there slumber soon enough to save this country? God Have Mercy On Us!
Only governments that fear the people want gun control, and people control. What ever happened to “of the People, for the People, and by the People”? We are supposed to be a nation governed by the people, not the government herding us like sheep into being controled. The original reason for the second amendment was to make sure the people had arms to resist any government that tried to enslave them, including most specifically our own. The people should control the government, not the government control the people. It is way past time for empeachment procedings to begin.
Just bombard your senators everyday, we need to get this bum out, impeach him. Vote, vote and vote. Don’t vote for someone that promises you the moon, we need common sense people.
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We have our work cut out for us now. This administration is socialist and facist. GM, AIG, Chrysler, TARP, unheard of. Companys should prosper and fail as the forces of the market dictate. The bankruptcy laws were steamrolled over. Now our guns?
I am sickened by the actions of BO. I am willing and able to defend our Great Nation as I once did from all enemies both foreign and domestic!
I’ll tell you that our biggest enemy is a domestic one led by none other
than BO himself. I think America as a whole went wrong when the majority elected a president that has NEVER served this great nation!!!
Never risked his life so others can live free! Time for him to go one way or the other before it’s too late!! We need to wake up and say enough is enough!! I will give up my weapons for only one reason when I am DEAD!!!! What we need to do is start lyching these criminals that use guns while commiting a crime and also the people that are selling these guns to these people!! Law abiding gun owners do not use there weapons in the commision of a crime those people are the criminal and if all these bleeding heart liberals would stop crying that we are being to harsh on criminals and start punishing them instead of making there time in prison pleasant for them!! They gave up their constitutional rights when they committed the crimes they were arrested for. Throw them in a cage and let them rot for all I care!
My brothers I will stand beside you and defend OUR NATION when the time comes!!!
As so many of you have said, I too will stand beside the rest of you with my weapon(s) and defend this country. Please don’t count out our military, they too know what’s happening and most agree they not going to take orders requiring them to confiscate the general public’s weapons. With 2 sons currently serving in Spec Ops and 7 tours between them they have a pretty good idea what going on. After 3 tours in the Nam, I maybe a lot older but also a lot wiser! God Bless our Country, the United States of America.
I know that the nazies in DC are going to get my name from this comment, hell they may be funding it. That being said I have a real fear for the country I love, 86 per cent of the american people are straight up good folks, the rest are very misled if they think that they can turn the country into a socialist dictatorship. BHO has all the markings of a dictator, and I’m sure that he dreams of that kind of control, he has that kind of ego. From what I am seeing on the internet the american people are starting to wake TF up, it only took the destruction of the economy and the invasion of 12 million illegals to do it, we sure are slow. We have been ‘ dumbed down ‘ by our education system, the lies that are told to us by media are just taken as truth by the majority of the people, but this internet will be our salvation. We need to vote, write, call, fax and e-mail our ” representives ” and get them off their asses, and vote the carrier politicans out of office, term limits are way past do.
Buy all of the guns and ammo you can buy. This guy in the White House is not going to stop. This guy Obama was put in the White House for one thing and one thing only and that is to bring this great Nation down to it’s nees. If you notic he is spending a lot of time in the middle east. Do your part to protect this Country and pray that our lord God will keep his great hand on the USA.
Realist Id really really like to see you walk all the way through south Dallas by yourself without a gun, there might even be enough left to bury.
God your such a dumbass.
Poor Ryan Smith just another “brainwashed by the government” pawn ! If he would only read the rest of the gun laws instead of the few select ones that he choose’s to read then he would be better educated and informed of the status /level of the gun control already in the laws in this country! And as for how we “look” to the rest of the world WHO CARES ! All these other countries are quick to condem us every chance they get but right there asking for America’s help the first chance they get ! We have troops overseas protecting are freedom but who is here protecting our freedom at home? I say it’s time to forget about those other countries and take care of America first and the world second !
Hey Ammerman,
Make way for one more in the trenches, and bring the bastards on. I’m
well armed with plenty of ammo, and adding more all the time. SFC/Ret
U.S. Army (21 years) and two combat tours in Viet Nam. They won’t make it out of Florida alive, if they do make here in the first place.
Attention everyone: What we need to do is a protest, not a posterboard march type protest either ,(stick with me and keep reading) Writing to your elected officials does nothing. Even if they read the letters they throw it away and nothing changes, voting anyone new in doesn’t change anything because 1 person can’t change anything! What we need is a protest in the wallet ….Money talks and bullshit walks……Everyone needs to not go hunting, fishing,boating ,camping,don’t buy any guns, ammo, licenses,tags or permits of any kind! Don’t spend any money on any things related to any outdoor activity until the government backs off on gun control . The amount of revenue lost from license sales and taxes lost from butcher shops,bait shops, gun shops,boat sales,etc would cripple the government. Not to mention the added burden from the wildlife population explosion from not being hunted. It would not be long before the government would be erasing gun laws and asking the public what gun laws we need ! Unfortunately there are too many spoiled people in this country that would rather sit on websites and complain about it instead of actually doing something about it,3or 4 or even 1000 people across the country are not going to make it happen we need unity! There is strength in numbers people let’s all pull together and make a sacrifice, take a meaningful stand! We can either sacrifice are fun and toys for a year or two or….. lose them forever!!!!
Unbelieveable. Do you bloody idiots not realise that your second ammendment “right” to bear arms, and the attitude it produces, is the very reason so many of the world hate your respective asses. This false notion that you are “the greatest nation on earth” with your “holyier than thou” and “I’m better than you” attitudes that permeate around the world are insulting and patronising, and on the rare occasions when you get a President that actually recognises and understands the implications of this, he gets branded the anti-christ. If you want a safer place to live where you aren’t crippled with fear and paranoia support the gun control ammendments. Have you ever noticed that the non-threatening democracies of the world don’t get targeted by terrorists, and have relatively low violent crime rates. Wake up to yourselves and do the math.
To Dumbfounded ?
You are like the rest of the “sheep”..You have eyes, but can’t see.You have ears, but can’t hear.Evidently you don’t know history,have not been around much of the world and haven’t a clue whats really going on.I have to wonder where you came from.I would challenge you to travel abroad,read ACCURATE history books,then voice your “dribble”..I hope and pray your kind, who have been led to believe such cancerous trash,wake up to the REAL world before the pot of water your in, starts to boil and you realize your cooked!
I think we are headed for disaster. We elected a person that is so radically
liberal that really has no glue as to his legislation. He just represents the
inferior people who really do not care for America, or what our fathers, mothers, grandmothers or grandfathers etc. have fought for and died for.
There generation has grown up protected by GOOD law bidden citizens, that have done the dirty work of keeping United States FREE. There generation has gone to school, never learned, never partipated in any organization to prpsper the free rights of Americans. I dont really think they beleive in GOD. I am disgusted with ALL our politians in Congress that are there for one thing, only fill there hearts with power and pockets with MONEY. I am also disturbed, that the BEST country in the world has to app
olize to anybody, for our actions, bad or good. They will never take my
guns away, because that is the last defense before they come to my home.
I really think the quote is still correct, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.
O BAA Maa… THe Bleating Heart Sheeples’ Messiah… is a twelve year old Valley Girl, with the cutesy, abbreviated word endings. Does she curtsie after every speech…??? If she was half the man, Mrs. Nobama is, we’d all be better off… The fix is in; and, a fairy merry Obama Yomomma doublecross, to you all… with a Mexican Chinese port of entry, a collossal Chinese Cargo Transport Ship, with a twelve man crew, to deliver the Korean or Chinese Army, in four days, a turnpike cruise through Mexico, USA, and, Canada…. and, how long do you think, a box of ammo, will last…??? We’d best sharpen our harpoons to sink the invading Cargo/Army, and head this nobama off at the pass…. Edgrrr… Stalag Skew, at Y-RICO, Ahnolds’ Kali Fornia… UNITED STATES SOCIALISTIC REPUBLIC [USSR] INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION…. LIZARDS AT LAW….
Since I have seceded from the United States and am now a seperate entity, an independant human being, none of what the chimpanze in the White House does makes any difference to me. None of my firearms are registered, nor will they ever be. The ones that I did have that were registered, I either sold or gave away. No government has ever had any right to force me to do anything, just the force….and that can be broken.
To Dumbfounded:
If your answer is to bury your head in the sand and not take pride in the fact that WE ARE THE GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD, so as not to upset the rest of the shitty world, Then don’t bother, Just bury your head up your own ass. It all the same.
No matter what laws the government tries to enforce, I shall never surrender my fire arms which will be the safe guard to my country and family members when the need arises. Stick to your guns.
dear god what monster have the democrates let loose on the amer. people? this pres. is for no one but him self and those, who are here without legal means, he wants to leave us unprotected against the terriorests, who see we have a weak leader and one who doesn’t love this country and the laws the young of this country died to protect. Hitler someone wrote? i have a feeling this man will also be some day on trial for war crimes…….we can no longer speak freely, all his camp. promises were lies, but the one that promised chg. but to be honest he never said for the better . ARE WE TO BECOME AN OTHER RUSSIA OF THE COLD WAR………HELP US. HOW CAN WE LEAGALLY GET RID OF THIS FOOL….
To Micheal Hunter . Take a Reality Check…
You are not now, nor ever will be “the greatest nation on earth” but you are certainly the most “arrogant nation on earth”. We dont bury our heads, we just dont try and force our ideals and our war mongering attitudes on the rest of the world. Have you actually read some of the crap posted in this forum. You sound like a bunch of spoiled school children who have had thier toys taken away. For chrissake, most of you have guns for “protection”, from what? millions of other screaming radicals in your own backyard who also have guns for protection. So why do you need protection from yourselves?? How many of you actually hunt with a gun. I have guns, 4 rifles and two shotguns. No handguns beacause they’re bloody useless for hunting, and I live in a peacful country so I dont need protection from my neighbor, and we have a perfectly good military for protection from others. My guns are registered and I dont give a toss that the my Government knows I’ve got them, i’m not paranoid and i’ve got nothing to hide. Seems to me that the people that are scared of registration are the very unstable people that shouldnt have a gun in the first place.
And.. to R.D. Cessna. I have travelled abroad, extensively, to many countries for over 35 years, even yours, and i have indeed seen the cancers in the world, which by in large have mostly been caused by US interference in the politics of other nations. Perhaps you are the one that needs to “open your eyes” Robert Burns in 1796 wrote “I wish to God, the gift he geis, to see ourselves as others see us”. Think about that.
Hello all you wannabes. Read a lot of what you all are going to do. Well, let
me tell you something: not one of you have mentioned a traitor in the midst.
There is always a traitor in the midst even if there is only two of you.
I suggest that you all rehearse this over and over again until it sits in the
back of your head until you do not trust anyone.
Do not trust anyone, do not trust anyone, do not trust anyone.
This is the most important advice that anyone can give you.
Your best friend, father, mother, sister, brother, son, daughter and all the
rest of your family and friends will betray you! Yes, they will. I know and I
will never trust anyone again.
If you want to stay alive, have the ability to defend your family and your
country, trust no one. Never tell anyone, no matter who, your plans. Your
life depends on it.
I hope that none of you will ever suffer the tragedy of betrayal.
—– Original Message —–
From: Tom C
To: Senator Lugar
Cc: Congressman Ellsworth
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: Fw: 2nd Amendment: Big Vote Coming in Congress that affects us all.
Dear Senator Lugar,
Why would any U.S. Senator ever want to see enacted a treaty which could ultimately cause the disarming of it’s people, and subjection to various United Nation’s affiliated Communist dictators, both foreign and domestic, who would just love to see Americans stripped of the God given “right to bear arms” as has been so affirmed and embodied in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution?
Am I wrong about this, or just what is it about Americans which apparently you and other Rhodes Scholars such as Bill Clinton and other “globalist-waterboys” so despise?
PLEASE LET US ALL PUT GOD BACK INTO OUR LIVES. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!! LAND THAT WE LOVE.. !!! OBEY GOD’s LAWS first… THIS Land is your land, this land is my land….. AMERICA!!!!!!!! WE are for GOD!!!!!Our GOD is Alive!!!!!
It is amazing to me that if you join the military, the government puts a gun in your hand and calls you a pease keeper. But if those same hands get out of the military and hold a weapon, you are suddenly labled a potential terrorist. I will not give up my rights to defend my loved ones or the right to protect what is mine. All the whiners say if you need protection, call the police. Sure, and by the time help arrives, you and your whole family has been raped, robbed, had your throats cut and left for dead. Includeing the dog. Not on your life Mr. Obama!
I AM A PATRIOT AND I OWN SUME GUNS AND IF THE NON U.S CITIZEN’S
DONT LIKE IT TO DAM BAD. ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW IS IF YOU TRY TO COME TO THE GOOD OLD U.S.A AND TAKE THIM FROM ME YOU WILL NOT SUCSEED IN DOING THAT.HOW EVER ALL YOU WILL SUCSEED IN DOING IS NOWING WHAT DETH IS LIKE FIREST HAND.SO BRING IT ON YOU STUPID MUTHER-F? CAMMEL HUMPING FAGIT’S
PS.
THE SAME GO’S FOR ALL OF THOES THAT TRY TO GET MY GUNS
Well now Ladies and Gentlemen: I am a 73 year old female. Yep, I have shotguns and a 38 special. Licenced to conceal and can throw up that 20 g. with no problem and surely will if needed. I am with you and have a bit of a problem climbing the hill but you can bet I will have your back. What are these idiots in DC thinking. Texas alone is surely gun strong i not to mention all the other states. All these whimps can sit on their duffs cause I can only bet if it comes down to fight or die some will be going down with us cause I’m not giving up my gun, dogs or anything else mine. What a shame such a costly mistake was made in this last election. Wonder what shamo obamo is going to do when North K blows up the white house. He will probably be over in Saudi having tea since he is never home anyway. You know we all are probably going on some hate list for making these comments but what the hey, bring er on.
An HONEST American government has nothing to fear from FREE Americans. If ALL were armed there would be far less crime. Signs should be placed in yards saying this homeowner is armed please rob my neighbor who believe’s in gun control. NV 68-69.
Lord, may the people who demanded no taxation without representation come forward. This was the start of the American revolution: where is the spirit our founding fathers had, why cannot we protest this now? Our guns will be only registered by honest people… it is the crimials we need to attack, not our citizens who pay their taxes, pray and hope for a Nation under God.
When cautioned about politicians and the need to vote for people with integrity most people would answer “We have a Constitution to protect us “. Well Germany also had some form of Constitution before Hitler arrived. Maybe we deserve the government we have, we voted for this people.
May God protect us.
You are right, Americans are arrogant, and try to push their beliefs onto other countries, but not all Americans, only what is now known as the American Government is doing this. The same government WE THE PEOPLE are fed up with !!
Gun controol….its already here, just not as bad as it will soon be. I am not freely allowed to own an M16 without a government issued permit, therefore controlled. Controlled by a tyrannical government that want control over all lands, not just the USA.
I see some comments about electing a Republican, or maybe even a Democrat……Can’t you people see that they ARE ONE IN THE SAME ?? I mean come on, if you lose the election, you should not be all buddy buddy with your opponent, maybe give them a helping hand taking office but not sharing the same bed with them for heaven sakes !!
If you really want to change things through an election, then don’t elect either party, it is time for a new party that is for our Constitution and the words that are written in our Constitution.
Contact your congressman?? most of them are in on it, ever hear of tossing the dog a treat for being a good boy and doing what he is told?
If its going to be done, it needs to start at the very least the state level, and then continue on to the federal level, only elect people that stand for our Constitution, 100%, there is no 1/2 way, you are either for or against, and in my opinion, if you vote into office a person representing either political party then you are against us.
Term limits….well, that could just jump up and bite you right in the wazoo, if you get a good one in there, do you really want them gone?, election is the way to make some one disappear that is not doing a good job of representation…..impaechment is another
I WILL stand with all my brothers and sisters of this GREAT NATION should it come down to having to go to arms.
NOW the next thing, someone needs to create JUST ONE web site so we can ALL organize, there are WAYYYY too many sites out there to have any kind of order SO WE MUST ALL agree to ONE WEB SITE for organization.
If you can’t tell, I’m tired, yes I have read EVERY comment left here, well over two hours of reading so if I have miss spelled or you are having trouble deciphering my gibber jabber, blame it on being tired or blame it on inefficient school systems or what ever you want to blame it on.
The second amendment protects individual rights. There was no national guard in 1791. The militias were not government organizations but groupings of private individuals who placed themselves under government operational control and this is what is encouraged by the phrase about a well regulated militia, that such groupings be created and voluntarily placed under governmental operational control. The national guard concept came later. The main purpose of the second amendment is to ensure that the Republican form of government guaranteed by the Constitution can be preserved by those who created the Constitution in the first place: we, the people and not any a mercenary force hired by any government especially the federal government. Tis militia that the second amendment mentions is not one more government force but the watchdogs that wuill make sure that the government remais responsive to the people and not the other way around. Just as the individual has a right to defend himself from attempts at his life, liberty, property and other rights by criminals, he has a right to defend himself, both individually and collectively against attempts against his life, liberty, property and other rights by any tyrant, foreign or domestic. Arms are the best defense in these cases. Those who prefer to be guarded by others and are willing to surender their rights to self defense in exchnage for this pretended protection will eventually be enslaved by their protectors. History has born this out and this is the theme of many works of the dramatic arts from literature to the cinema. Billions are expended in thse industries and the best sellers are those that emphasize this theme. Defenseless individuals and communities who turn to some hero for their protection when they could have taken charge of their own defense either individually or collectively if they had had the means to do so. Once lost, this freedom is almost impossible to recuperate unless they arm themselves and from where once they are deprived of the ability to acquire these means for self defense? Who will protect them that many clamor for desarming those who are unwilling to entrust their safety and freedom to others of dubious intents? Will it be the the very entity that will enslave them, the all powerful State through the government and its ancillary institutions? Patrick Henry, famous for his liberty or death speech refused to be a delegate to the Constitutional Convention. Maybe he should have gone. It would have taken a lot more concessions to individual liberties than those that the Constitution provided in its original form. The real founding fathers were those who opposed the Constitution and who had to be appeased by the federalists by conceding the need for the Bill of Rights which is what most mean when they talk about the Constitution because it is what recognizes, guarantees and protects our individual liberties which search as you might in the Constitution original parts you will never find. Those who will surrender their liberty to the government in exchange of a “cross my heart to protect and defend you” will eventually end up being protected and defended by those that prefer to rely on themselves to ensure their own liberty and safety. It is not the duty of any police agency to protect and defend anyone. They are there to apprehend those who violate the law and bring them to justice. They can act only after the fact. If their presence happens to deter someone’s intention to violate the law, it is merely a bonus. The federal courts have establisehd that and the Supreme Court has denied certiorari, that is, it has upheld that decision by not looking into the issue. Cops have no duty to protect nor defend you. They can if they are around at the time but unless there is a violation of the law, they cannot act. Any intervention must be substantiated by probale cause to be considered valid under the Constitution. That’s what the 4th amendment is about. Some police agencies have become private security agencies for rich and powerful individuals and communities. That is another theme constantly portrayed in literature and the dramatic arts and industries. When they come for you in the middle of the night, who will come to assit you?
(Ryan Smith II is not related to the original Ryan Smith poster.)
First off, I hope all you defenders of the 2nd Amendment are supporting the Associations that fight on a daily basis for your right to keep and bear arms- the NRA, ( http://home.nra.org/#/home ), CCRKBA ( http://ccrkba.org/ ), Second Amendment Foundation ( http://www.saf.org/ ), your state’s (or local) Rifle or Pistol Association. And I mean monetarily.
These are the folks who keep up with all the latest National, State, and Local issues regarding the 2nd Amendment, and help fight (in court if necessary) for your right.
To Dumbfounded,
I am sure that you are not an “American”. “Bloody” is more of a British expression than U.S.
And now I hear that Britain is thinking about banning knives. I guess the days of a tough steak in Britain are gone.
I consider myself to be a redneck, but I am not radical, just as all radicals are not rednecks.
On a serious note, I keep weapons in my home for a variety of reasons-protection, hunting, target shooting.
As stated by earlier posters, the Police do not have a responsibility to keep you safe in your home. They are reactive, not proactive-a reason for the homeowner to be proactive by arming himself.
I may need one of my brother Marines to “liberate” a motor for my wheelchair, but my trigger finger still works perfectly. For the person(s) who questioned our willingness to put it all on the line, to defend our freedoms I have exactly one thing to say….Been there, done that, and still capable of doing it some more.
Even though your “Self Proclaimed” name makes it own case, your lack of ablity to properly quote someone says much more. Robert Burns said, “Oh, that God the gift would give us To see ourselves as others see us”. Grateful I am however, that this gift has not been imposed as you would seem to like. I would much rather see people through Gods eyes. You seem educated. Sadly your education didn’t teach you to speak your mind without having a need to prove you are smarter by insulting people. I think that was something taught in Kindergarden. Has your education gone to your head in more ways than one, thereby pushing out the parts about how to treat others. Sadly you also seem to missing an education in the biblical verses which read that the one world government is coming. Whether you believe in God or not, or pick and choose the verses you like and/or don’t like it has already been written.
Truthfully, there are more paranoid people in this country than most want to admit. However, our own government, falling in line with what they think is THIER OWN thoughts, give us many reasons to second guess much of what they do. This all being neither here nor there. The bottom line is this…(without the History lesson) Our Constitution was written to protect the people from the Government. To keep the Government in check. To give us liberty to keep us a free nation. To keep the Government from dictating what religion we practice, but to allow our beliefs to freely guide us as we vote for those we want to see in governemet. Those freedoms are slowly being pulled away. Too many brainless or brainwashed wonders are allowing fear to guide them into thinking that we need more government, which in turn is the same government that is doing all it can to take away the one main thing that keeps them in check. THE FEAR THAT US REDNECKS (as you called us) WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FORM A MILITIA, GUIDED BY THE CONSTITUTION IT’S SELF, AND TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY, BY FORCE IF NECESSARY, AND SEE THEM ALL ON THIER WAY OUT.
For the record, your attempt at an inuslt using “REDNECK” fell short. And since you don’t live in these United States of America (THE GREATEST NATION ON THE PLANET), you really should keep your educated mouth shut about things that don’t concern you.
Thanks everyone (with the exception of Realist) for the attitudes being expressed, as a 11 year vet. of the LOCAL streets its nice to see that not everyone has swallowed the little pill of Progressive/socialism that the liberal part of America thinks is SO great. Everyone NEEDS to wake up to the fact that folks in my position will also be a VERY REAL THREAT to our rights being taken away as will ANY troops from other counties. We “the local police” are being Federalized as fast as the Gov. can get it done, and folks let me tell you that this IS NOT A GOOD THING.
As far as the “militia” is conserned it seems to me that “Realist” needs to do some fact checking before opening thier obviously unread mouth!!! the Militia was and STILL IS supposed to be made up of citizens ready, willing and able (with THIER OWN MILITARY STYLE WEAPONS) to show up if and when they are needed to “help” the regular military (who by the way was NEVER supposed to be a permenant/full time gig) defend THIS country against ANY threat.
So it seems to me that before some people open thier yaps they need to reads-up on the facts. THOSE WHO DON’T REMEMBER HISTORY or at least READ about it, ARE GOING TO REPEAT IT!!!
LO
The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination. Dumbfounded not only has allowed his (guessing male – could be wrong) country to destroy his right to keep a gun to protect his family from the many Home Invasions that these other gunless countries seem to experience, but he has also allowed his country to let him think that HIS OWN COUNTRY isn’t great. Why would you want to live in a country that you yourself didn’t think was the greatest. If I didn’t think that the United States was the greatest nation, I believe I’d have to find a way to move to the one that was better…just like all the millions and millions more imigrants that have risked thier lives to come here.
The people of every nation on this Third Rock from the Sun should think that its nation is the greatest. How sad that Dumbfoundeds education has kept him or her from the imagination that made the USA as great as it is.
And hey Mr. OR Mrs. (or what ever Lordship title you wish you deserved) Dumbfounded and the others just like you…don’t be down on someone for mispelling a word now and then. You alone did not spell the word GIVES correctly “geis”. I may not win a spelling bee, but I live where millions more people around the world wish they could live.
God Bless America – even though we don’t deserve it.
I think it’s really interesting that when someone posts criticism that y’all would call left wing (or even socialist or communist – not that the posts really are those things, some of us just don’t seem to know what those words mean) that poster is attacked by folks who are “spittin’ mad”.
But when someone like Don American, a Republican and gun owner, posts his call for reason, for us to look at what we’re saying and think instead of just reacting, everyone completely ignores him. Where is the intelligent rebuttal to his post? Perhaps there is none?
Kudos to Ray in Ohio.
And,
“The Constitution IS NOT an instrument for the Government TO RESTRAIN THE PEOPLE, it is an instrument for the PEOPLE TO RESTRAIN THE GOVERNMENT, LEST IT COME TO DOMINATE OUR LIVES AND INTERESTS.” Patrick Henry (EMPHASIS ADDED)
It appears that we have let down our constitution, and we are not holding our elected representatives accountable for upholding the Constitution.
I am lucky that I live in a State where, by and large, OUR elected representatives DO follow the Constitution. Too bad for us that too many citizens live in States that (they think) are progressive. The proper word for them would be regressive. They are brainwashed by their politicians into believing that the Government is Utopia.
Remember this, if you remember nothing else, YOUR TAXES ARE WHAT KEEPS THE GOVERNMENT GOING. If too many of the “rich”are taxed beyond what is fair, they then have a reason to move to a country which treats its citizens more fairly (or is there no place like that left on this earth?).
To Ray, My Scottish ancestry demands that I put you straight with the works of Robert Burns. The last verse of the poem in it’s entirety is this;
O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae mony a blunder free us,
An’ foolish notion:
What airs in dress an’ gait wad lea’e us,
An’ ev’n devotion!
It was actually written as an Ode to a Louse that was seen sitting on a lady’s bonnet in church, and no mention of God was ever made, but the phrase “O wad some Power”is widely believed to be a reference to God. Many historians believe that Burns was not actually a religious man, and it is widely known that he was drunkard, so it may not be. Look it up and be educated further. I merely stated the most common translation to Queens English as many people no longer understand the Gàidhlig dialect. If any mistake was made, is was that the date was 1786, not 1796. As to me keeping my “educated mouth shut about things that don’t concern you”. This does concern me, and every other free speaking, free thinking person on the planet, due to your succesive governments never ending quest to impose it’s will on all other soveriegn nations on earth. Do you not think the Lugar proposal to ratify the INTERNATIONAL treaty has implications for others as well. It works both ways you know, and I’m actually not that comfortable about your Govt knowing what guns I’ve got.
To Dum Dum (how apt) Your quote… “You may be able to spell, but you sure can’t punctuate, capitalize or otherwise use grammar properly.”….. The word is “correctly”
To Ryan Smith II. You are correct, I am not an American and never claimed to be one, and nor do I live there, and I’m not a Brit or live there either, but you may need to do some reading on the proposed banning of knives there, to get the real story and not just the media hype.
To Just Passin’. I absolutley believe my country is greatest COUNTRY on earth to live, and is the reason I live here, I’m just not arrogant enough to think that its the “greatest NATION on earth”. Please re read my post. My country has not taken my guns away, they are locked safely away in a cabinet not 4 metres from where I’m currenty seated. As to the spelling, read some Gàidhlig poetry for use of words that may not be found in the Oxford dictionary, or Websters for that matter.
To Disheartened. Hallelujah, finally, some more intelligent reasoning from another educated person. Don American has had the most intelligent input into this thus far.
Be afraid, be very afraid! OMG where are those guns when you need them! Oh! The US Government wants to take them away. Are you kidding me I don’t believe it! You can buy all the guns you want and the ammo too. How many guns is enough? Don’t we have nuclear weapons? What is everyone afraid of? Isn’t all of this a silly facade to talk talk talk about politics rather than the real enemy – corporations! Corporations have bought our government and all of our lected officials. This is the “real” enemy!
Number 1 ,Everyone quit complaining and move for an impeachment.
Number 2,The Constitution and the Bill of rights are not suggestions,our country is founded on these tenets
Number 3,the whole group in Congress, who do they represent , themselves ? Get rid of them.
Number 4, Government employees , who alledgely work for Americans, have their own Goverment sponsored insurance that is totally different than the Americans, they have “no skin in the game”
when it comes to socialized health care …..
We all could add to this rhetoric , but we have to get back to work.
It is clear that this administration and those in Congress (AKA Democrats!) are all idiots. They live in an insulated life provided by we the people and don’t understand that not only do we have the RIGHT to bear arms but the need too! Our founding fathers gave us this right to, among other things, protect ourselves from our own government.
For those law makers who read this I say this. Obama is NOT our king! Stop treating him as such and use your balls to uphold our constitution!
hes puting us in a box and putting locks on it. hes going to be the death of us.did u guys hear that he called us an MUSLIUM countey?!?!?! how does that make the christans, like me, of America???? man this guys gona get hurt!!! and hes got no one to blam but himself!!
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story……
Nothing in the treaty proposed eliminates the right to own a firearem. The controversial parts are registration in a national database and subjecting US citizens to legal action outside the US.
The first item, national registration, is already requied in some cases. When the FBI does a backround check through NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System) it accesses the Interstate Identification Index. Included in this index are individuals who have been arrested or indicted for “a serious criminal offense anywhere in the country.” Note “indicted”…not convicted.
The treaty would require gun registration, now required in 44 states, to be pooled in a national database. From a law enforcement perspective it would help to be able to track a firearm used in a crime to whatever state and purchaser it came from. Make no mistake…firearms are used in violent crimes. Registration gives law enforcement another tool to help track down the bad guys. It might help prevent some crimes, but the main effect is to help convict those who do use guns in crimes.
The second objection is the subjection of US citizens to foreign law enforcement actions. Guess what….the US already has extradition treaties with about 100 countries. (List is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of…ition_treaties). US citizens can be extradited to any of these countries if they have a legal claim under their laws, including Mexico. Nothing new here. What is new is adding the ability to track gun ownership nationally, a tool Mexico wants to be able to curttail the flow of what it considers illegal guns into their country. At present, the large majority of guns used in Mexican violent crimes come from the US, having been purchased legally but sold illegally to non-citizens. It is the illegal resale of these guns that is at the heart of the treaty provisions.
So, does the US make it easier to track down illegal gun sales, or not? Do we want to help stop the drug trade, which uses these guns in violent crimes, or do we want to facilitate the flow of drugs into the US by not letting Mexico pursue illegal sales of guns?
Not easy questions to answer, which is why the Right pushes this as a simplistic “they are taking our guns away” which is, of course, a lie. Never known for in-depth analysis, Fox News and other commentators (Lou Dobbs, for one) never examine or explaine the background and roots of this proposal.
I would prefer that the US crack down on the illegal gun sales to foreigners, but that appears unlikely to happen. If the situation was reversed, would I want to be able to litigate against Mexican illegal gun dealers that were protecting the drug trade? Probably.
But, th truth is that this is not an attempt to weaken the 2nd amendment – the argument that it is is pure BS – but is one of law enforcement against illegal gun sales. You will have to decide which side of this argument you are on; IMHO the illegal sales are contributing to the drug trade and killing of people, and I am against both of those particular vices.
And please…stop the knee jerk reaction when anyone says “gun control” and “2nd amendment” in the same sentence.
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I have read and heard all of the complaints about BHO and I couldn’t agree more. The people that voted for him did not know what he was about other than watching what he was doing on his “soap opera” tv programs. Shame on them for not being informed and I am REALLY disappointed in the people voting in this country. Why in the HELL would you vote for a PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES with the name of Muslim descent and then act surprised when everything comes to light and takes the side of ISLAM over Christianity? Are you all STUPID? You folks that voted for this man are in my opinion guilty of high treason and are a domestic enemy to this country. I took a vow about 16 years ago to defend this great country of mine to protect it against all enemiews foreign and domestic. Walk lightly! the true AMERICANS in this country will take a stand with me and we are nothing like some back woods militia with 200 members holding a shooting spree on the weekends wearing store bought BDU’s and screaming like a bunch of school girls.
I am an Army Ranger and will always do what t takes to make sure that my family and all of it’s descendants will have a free and noble country to believe in and live freely in. Make no mistake, you raise up to much fuss about supporting gun control under the MUSLIM leader that you follow and you are putting yourslef in harms way. All true soldiers and marines that I have seen on this forum have the right idea. God bless you guys for spilling the blood in the mud that you have and watched your fellow Americans die on foreign soil. Let’s not let that be in vain from one man trying to ruin this country.
As far as the buying up all the ammo that you can, I truly believe that you should stock up. No doubt about it. But you have to remember to “improvise and overcome”! What I mean by that is that you will have plenty of spare mags laying on the ground as you ADVANCE and when the smoke clears. Utilize what was once against you as a formidable weapon agianst your enemy. SO the ammo that you have, zero in your weapons and true them up! Good Luck America and we will stand behind you all of the way.
I wish our politicians would spend more time on caring for our combat vets on their return to the US, they have many needs that are not being attended to, but our politicians can spend time and resources on trying to lock up our ammo and guns.
I will die for my family, country, my rights and my guns. No one will ever take any of the above from me.
God Bless OUR America.
No, actually, Lou, the Fraud Muslim in charge, stated, right before and after he was fraudulently voted in by the sheep. ” don’t worry (while smirking), America, I am not going to take your Guns.” Is that just like he is not going to take any of our other freedoms…. or is it like he said he isn’t interested in taking over our banks, or our car manufacturers??? you tell me.. Now, once he got his terrorists and die-hard socialists/communists in office to back his weak play, and only when that happened did he, infact start being very clear about taking the guns and ammo. In his defense, though, how can one take complete control and dictate, yes I said it, a country that is armed to the teeth? Take every civil right and destroy the constitution before they can elect a real, genuine naturalized American Citizen (without a hyphen) for President of these once, and can be again, great nation.
I am still Proud (directed at the Obamas’) to be an American citizen..
May GOD be with us and forgive us… and no, Mr. Muslim this American will not convert or bow to anyone other than GOD, or Jesus Christ… and yes I do have my bible, but amazingly this American does not own a gun…
but when I want to buy one, the constitution of these United States says I am entitled to…
Y’all think Bush was bad, just wait until the Head Muslim unleashes Sharia law upon us… and you don’t think it will happen… Why do you think Obama is trying to disarm the most armed people in the world — free or solialist??
IT AINT FARE FOR US AMERICANS STOP WORRING ABOUT GUNS!!!!!!!! START BRING THOSE TROOPS HOME!!!!!! THAT WAS THE PROMISE HE MADE!!!!!! GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS AND THE WOUNERFUL COUNTRY WE LIVE IN U S A
Enough is enough. Start the recall get rid of Obama, Biden and Pelosi. I am ex Army and am afraid to even go to the local firing range as they now want you to sign in and register all weapons you are bringing with you. I cannot even find ammo without going 30 miles and get on a waiting list. Time to start hiding your collectables just keep around what you need for self defense. I know in my court that there are 3 of us that own and collect guns and have never been in any trouble. The politicians must be out of the freakin minds, they try taking guns they will be a blood bath. They will need 24 hour protection there are more urgent things to do that mess with honest tax paying citizens. Like balance the budget. I have never been into politics but someone a lot smarter than me ought to start a recall on Obama and I will help in any way I can.
If you are not frightened by what Prez. Hussein has done since he has been in office there is something very wrong with you. I fear for my children and grandchildren now. I would give my life in an instant prevent what is going to happen soon. No one is going to separate the Obama supporters from the anti-Obama patriots. They are going to be just as dead as many of us will be. He’s not even making an effort to cover up what he is doing. Friends, don’t let the left draw you into the racist argument. This is not a racist issue. If you are accused of racism, offer no response. We need to concentrate on the truth and not waste any time trying to prove we are not racist.
If you do not already have sufficient ammo at this time, I suggest you concentrate your firearms acquisitions on calibers in standard military usage in whatever theater of operations you foresee yourself having to operate in. That way, you can use the enemy to replenish your supplies as they are rendered “inoperative”. This may well prove to be the only way one can maintain adequate supplies in this era of “federally mandated” ammo shortages.
It’s the right to BEAR (carry, hold) arms…..not “bare” (unclothed, revealed). Please continue your support of the 2nd amendment, but don’t make those of us who support it look like a pack of uneducated dimwits by not even quoting it correctly. Organization is the key. I don’t care if you have 15,000 rounds, you can be overcome by an organized armed effort. So, rhetoric aside, from where will the organization come? Who will take the next step creating the bandwagon we can all rally behind? We cannot stand separately alone. We must be together. So who on this forum will help lead? Red Wulf, Tom Oates, Eddie Hubbard, Wayne Scheetz, Doc, Dan? You all have some sense of direction. What next? Who will take the reins? Oh, and Dumbfounded…good job quoting Robert Burns. Very accurate and impressive.
For what it’s worth, Dumbfounded, with all the fine work on Robert Burns, you should know better than to say, “in it’s entirety” OR “impose it’s will…” When used as a possessive pronoun, “its” does not require an apostrophe, only when it is a contraction for “it is”. Despite our slight differences, I agree with your praise of Don American. His is a refreshing insight to an otherwise radicalized set of voices. Thanks for chipping in on our eternal internal debate.
RE: Voice of Reason’s claim that most of the guns getting to Mexico come from the U.S., I think you need to check your facts. Approximately 10% come from the U.S. The rest come from the southern border and by sea. You can imagine who they come from-there are a lot of countries that will do anything they can to cause hardship in the U.S. and keeping the Mexican Drug Cartels in business is one way for them to do that.
Also,
Even if a person posting here may not know how to spell properly or use correct punctuation, that does not give the rest of you “holier than thou” nitwits the right to criticize them. Just remember- they might be a lot smarter than you.
I wonder if the men that is in the Air Force, Army, Navy and Coast guard
etc. know what most of BOTH pariies are trying to do to our country and how do they feel about it. It might be good if they were advised.
One of the main thing that need tobe done I beleive is stop trying to get
GOD out of our land and let him bless the United States as he did before.
Merriam – Webster gives the definition of a nitwit as “a scatterbrained or stupid person” It’s been my experience that people in that category are not generally smarter than people able to recognise grammer and spelling mistakes. You are, however, correct, they might be smarter. I doubt it, but they might be, but more importantly does the First Amendment not guarantee the Freedom Of Speech, or are you being selective about which amendments are important to you and “to hang with the rest”.
Irrespective of over what border guns are finding thier to Mexico, the FACT remains that the vast majority of them are from the US. Whether or not they go to Columbia first and then to Mexico is irrelavant and simply a smoke screen, think money laundering. The undeniable FACT is that the vast majority of them originate from the US. The authorities are not finding AK47’s in great numbers, they are finding vast numbers of US made weapons of all shapes and sizes. Do some research and find the FACTS. Here might be a good place to start http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/related/102060 , there are plenty of others.
The two articles, San Antonio and Tucson, were about the same raid.
This bust in Reynosa is but a small part of the illegal guns that are reaching Mexico.
I agree there are unscrupulous people on both sides of the border, but disarming the law-abiding citizen in the U.S. is not the way to go.
And since I (and all of you) know that anything we say on this site will NEVER change the minds of the “other side”,I will now go away and let the rest of you try to persuade the other side that yours is the only way to go.
Remember this, though- in my neighborhood, it is well known that there are enough hunters and other law-abiding gun owners to protect ourselves and our neighbors. You should be so lucky.
And by the way, guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens prevent an astonishing number of crimes in the U.S.-without firing a shot.
That raid might well represent a small part of the trade, but 70.9% of the 540 rifles had traceable serial numbers and 80% of those came from licenced dealers just across the border in Texas, the remaining 20% were traced to US dealers in other states. These are fairly normal percentages in these raids. Forgive me if i’m wrong but isnt that significantly more than your previously claimed 10%. Like I said “never let the facts get in the way of a good story”. And as to having enough protection, the really sad part about that is that you need protection from your neigbours in the first place, and you’re right nobody “wins” these arguments, they’ve been going on since time began in one form or another and are part of the basic human battle of wits called “Brains against Brawn”
All countries subject to dictator, had gun removed first and than were
helpless.
Those that voted for obama, didn’t do any research, voters should be
responsible. I made the mistake of voting for j carter and we are still
paying for his mistake and next to obama he could become a Sunday
school teacher with some training, What do we have asa president.
I think he was never taught american values
Today, June 14, is FLAG DAY. I haven’t heard any mention of it on media programs. Gun control, history teaches us that those who surrendered their guns, also lost their freedom. I hope Americans won’t be as stupid as they have been in the past four decades to give up their guns. HOW did we arrive in such a dumbed up society???? Could it be television, movies, and rappers who have influenced the population into this stupidity?
I am like quite a few millions of very orderly, law abiding citizens that are waiting and watching . . . not sure for what, but I will recognize it when it comes. Among other things it will be any kind of gun confication. I am old, creacky, have lived a good life and am not afraid to die.
It’s been a long time comming now it’s like a roll of toilet paper the closer it gets to the end the faster it unwinds. Where were all of you folks when the race is on, this must be settled at the poles, that means don’t just vote, campaign, contribute and do anything tou can to get that bastard out of there and send Pelosi and the rest packin. If there is a fight we’ll all be on line to get it done, but if they figure a way to turn the military on us, well just let me say that those of us who have served really wouldn’t want any part of that, You just don’t reckon with a 62 ton tank or gunship with a 30-30 and a pick up. I just pray that our generals will have the backbone they will need if the government ever trys that. Heck I’m still waitin for all the free stuff.
I can’t freaking believe this. I am a US Army and US Marine veteran. I have a collection of guns. Some work some don’t. But anyone, ANYONE foreign or domestic that tries to take my guns away is asking for assistance in THEIR own suicide. I will happily comply!
If those people in power – or soon to be (Sotomayor in this case) conclude that 2A doesn’t apply to the states, what’s keeping them from saying that none of the Bill of Rights apply to the states? They are trying to take our guns away for any reason they can find, be it the border problems, any random act of violence that involves a weapon, etc. Where’s it going to end? When they take away our freedom of speech, press or religion? Our right to illegal search and seizure? Incarceration for no reason other than “you look suspicious”? Incarceration without a trial? Etc.
It appears to me that we are heading down that road that might be very difficult to get turned around on. I’m proud to say I didn’t vote for Obama – I’m a libertarian. The federal government should stay out of state government and uphold the Constitution as it’s written, not how some people want to “interprete” it. Interpretation, just like opinions, are like a$$holes – everyone has one, and they are all different, and most usually stink.
i have a gun collection and i want my grand children to have them when the time comes! i also hunt deer, dove,quail and ducks, (i have all of my life), and i’ll be damn sure as hell do not want my rights of owning firearms taken away from me!! we all need to fight for our rights and like it was said above, let the american people vote on this! this man does not have the right to take away our second amendment,nor should he have the power to do so! something this big should be decided by the american people and only by the people, not by a fool!
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Ok, well let quit talking about it and figure out a place to meet if it all goes down, I am not giving up my weapons to anyone and I will do my best to take anyone down trying to take them from me. There is a civil war coming, and its going to be one sided…I know a lot of police officers and military people that will defend their right. After all, you can be imprisoned if the government that put the laws in effect is gone.
If that’s too much for people, then let’s figure out a better way to communicate to our government of our wishes before it’s too late.
I have read most all of the above. just remember these few things. joeseph stolin came into power py murdering about 30million of his own people. He did it in the winter by shuting off the life saving things such as heating oil,,,diesel,,,gasoline,,,electric,,,, no food go to the people,,, No heat,,,No transportation,,,can’t get around,,,can’t fight,,,Just scream out and die.
Watch what obama and the world health organization does to the world population with the swine flue VACINATIONS, manditory for every one on earth. His people will get water in the shot and people like this web site will get a dose of what it takes to KILL YOU. Why do you think obama has completly blown this swine flue pandemic thing out of porportion.
Every dictator comes up with ways to murder millions and millions of the opisition right off the get go. Mulit national troops will have no problem mass murdering as many Americans as posible for the cause they have been brainwashed to think.
They will probably use shock wbombs that only kill people and leave the houses in tact. Then all you have to do is haul the trash off and move in. I think you get the IDEA. What ever it is it won’t be a gun fight . So screw all your dumb assed GUN CRAP.
I am not a lib. and I will fight to my death to defend my family and my neighbors and the GREATEST country on earth.
Remember this, God says in the Bible —–one world gov. will come to pass,,, and it will. Be a saved born agin christian and bring your family with you when you leave this earth. Check out the leviathan in the book of jobe. Can you fight aginst this,,,,laviathan. NO!!! Good day, Brad
Barack Obama is an Elitist who thinks those of us who disagree with him are bitter and clinging to our religion and our guns. I am proud to cling to my Bible and my guns, but not because I am bitter, because I am American. Because I am a Christian and a Patriot.
They can have my whiskey when they pry it from my shaking stoned hand!
I’m sorry I thought we were talking about the 18th ammendment.
So, who’s gonna march on Washington packin’ and demand to be heard?
Also glad to know there are so many military people out there that don’t believe in the chain of command and respect for your superiors (rank wise), did you all whine so much when some general you never saw told you to do something?
HR 2159 Seeks To Disarm Individuals The Government Suspects Of Being Terrorists.
I have to laugh at this one. WHY? Because the government can go to every door in this country and take ever weapon from every American in this country BUT that dumb ass in the oval office fails to think…..IF A TERRORIST WANTS A WEAPON HE WILL GET IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER…..There is an old saying…..WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY.
And DISARMING THE CITIZENS OF THIS CUNTRY IS A PURE AND SIMPLE WAY OF VIOLATING MY/OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BEAR/HAVE ARMS.
This is disgusting. You people had the chance to vote someonelse in and you were captured by his carrisma and voted BHO into office. He is running around the world say not nice things about America that I could scream. It he is saying all our troops died for nothing I will never say a prayer for him. I don’t care if its touch and go. I agree some of the Constitution must be changed and updated, but 2nd Amend. is not one of them. Close the loop holes in all the other laws. Get people to pay their overdue taxes. Start hanging people again in the town square. No more 20 years of being on death row. You want to cut services, start with the convicts, then the people who owe the gov’t money (taxes). Have welfare work to clean up the freeways….others to plants tree’s and plants. Come on and get moving. We are going downhill, just as Great Britain, Rome, Greece, and others. Open your eyes America….we are going down the tubes! I live not far from a prison. I am not going to go down without a fight should another riot breaks out. They will hit the dirt before I will.
I would be proud to stand with other americans and fight to the death to protect the fundamental values to which this country was founded on. Does that make me a terrorist? or a patriot?
Most all previous governments of history became corrupt.
Do not expect yours to be any different.
America-for and by the corporations and rich?
A true patriot is the bad guy at first;almost surely to be labeled as a domestic terrorist; taking up an unpopular or even unlawfull idea or action. Most people wont take on the role of being the bad guy but when the bad guys idea is realized as a good thing and the suffering has already been born by the true patriot, The people who waited for it to be safe to proclaim the idea as a good one, then puff out their chests and claim to be patriots.To little to late!
The 2nd amendment is the protectorate of all other rights granted by the constitution!
Dont let the government nibble way at this most imprtant right!
I believe the word infringe to be a most important one-Fringe =outermost edge=no nibbling!!!
If the gov. wants to make a law let it be that any information pertaining to me not be given to anyone, especially non-Americans!
The cost to disarm the American people will be in blood.
There are many rifles but this one is mine!
All I have to say is I’m sorry. I voted for Obama because I thought he was the lesser of two evils but he was just a better speaker. Two bad we couldn’t go back in time.
there are other options than just Democratic and Republican – the next election take a look at the third party options.
My vote went to Libertarian candidate Bob Barr — keep the federal government out of people’s lives, let people live the way they want as long as it doesn’t hurt or infringe on another human. Sounds like a good plan to me.
Interesting comments all. We’ll see how this all works out if it indeed does come to fruition; Patriots will be separate from the rest, as the stress and strife press the mettle of some.
I think the more interesting questions would be to ask Why ? and Whom shall be held accountable ? We can speculate on the intentions of another, but all for naught.
Those of you on the right side of things will most likely be provided an opportunity prove your sincerity, those who aren’t will be fodder for me and the rest….
Our Founding Fathers have already laid this issue to rest, I swore an oath to defend my country from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and the heart of a soldier is the heart of a soldier.
Rangers Lead the Way
It is time to return to individual liberties, sovereign states, the Fair Tax, less government, less regulation, and time for a new American party: Why not call it the Constitutionalist Party.
You chicken shiet people are a hoot. If you ever came up against a real card carrying, dues paying liberal – you’d crap your pants so fast you’s dragass.
None of you are real patriots.
Crapheads not parrottheads.
grab your ears with Thumb and Index Finger
and
JERK
The plop you heard was your head coming out of your colon.
I have read the material presented with interest and horror. I agree wih the comments. Obama should be removed from office. I doubt that he is even an American Citizen. The damage he can do if he remains in office is beyond description. I will be 85 years old in July and am a veteran of WW2. I have studied Political Science and Economics. I doubt if Obama has.
The only bloodless way to take the country back and send a clear message to all politicians is to NEVER vote for an incumbent!In fact vote 3rd party, you may think your vote wont count, but it will also send a very clear message.American politics can be summarized as follows, The Democrats freely admit to being socialistic in word and deed; The Republicans lie to us and say they are not socialist, but their actions betray their agenda.
I have been concerned about this person since he was a Chicago Machine Legislator and his unusual rise to fame. His purchase of the Presidency was not surprising. His dogma was not surprising either It was simply terrifying. His steps taken to the throne he now occupies is not unlike that of Adolf Hitler. As a Socialist he has taken a page out of Karl Marx teachings. With his mesmerizing gift of eloquent speech, he has created a “mass hysteria” environment. No one questions his motives, promotions and actions. His word is somehow gospel…. a litany of deceit.There is no doubt that he is ambitious and is working hard, but just who is he working for? So many unknowns so many haunting catch-phrases. We do not even know the truth of his birth. He is abve reproach.
His blatent abuse of The Constitution is sickening, and he was a Constitutional scholar at Harvard.
The Second Amendment is a precious right and valueable beyond belief. Without the Second Amendment, none of the other Rights afforded by out founders means anything. They are all expendable with out the right of the Freeman to be armed. We are also afforded in those words to form a well regulated militia. This is without a doubt to defend our nation and lifestyles against all enemies both foreign and domestic.
To all of my brothers-in-arms, we veterans, active duty and reserves have all taken an oath. Remember, “to protect and defend the Contitution and the United States of America against ALL enemies bit FOREIGN and DOMESTIC!” “So help us God”
I still honor that oath. I am willing to stand up to tyranny. Any person attempting to disarm me will be regarded as an enemy regardless of knowledge to me. I hope that I will not be standing alone.
“Be afraid of the government that is afraid of your Guns!”
Because any Government that is big enough to give you everything you want…. is also big enough to take away everything you have!
Vote them all out of office, lets start over. And to all you Jar Heads out there your not the only ones who know how to handle an M1 & M60, Go Seabees.
Why is it that some have to try to confuse the little minds out there with a bunch of big words. It is very simple. Take away our right to defend ourselves, and we become slaves to the government. Read the history books. Only a fool would believe that taking guns away from lawful owners is going to curb crime. Read about post-ban Australia. Read lazy liberals and know what you are writing about before you waste space on this blog.
Pay careful attention to the wording. How there is any confusion as to the intent of our forefathers regarding the Second Amendment is beyond me. “A well-regulated militia (comma) being necessary to the security of a free state (comma) the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”. It does not say, “A well-regulated people, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the MILITIA to keep and bear arms……”. It is stating that in order to avoid a police state, a country’s people must be armed. They understood that this would keep government honest. They understood that this would allow citizens to protect their lives and property. Do you honestly believe that they felt an amendment was necessary to ensure that our military could have guns?? What military in the world is UNarmed, for goodness sake? Do you think that these guys were sitting around a table and one of them said, “Hey, we need to make that next one ’bout makin’ sure our military can have guns”. Are we a gun culture? Indeed we are. Are we the freest nation in the land? Indeed we are. Do lawful gun owners account for a measurable number of violent crimes in this country? Absolutely not. Has gun control in other countries greatly reduced the violent crime rate? Quite the contrary. As for a viable argument against individual firearm ownership, possession, and use within the United States, there simply is none. Period.
All Americans must stand together to protect our second amandment. Our new, wet behind the ears, President is moving very swiftly, hoping we will miss exactly what he is very methodically doing to our Country. From illegal aliens, to takeover of businesses, to rendering our Constitutional rights useless, he is moving on with his agenda. Muslims will soon overtake our population, and he is paving the way.
i am 71 years old and i have enough hand gun ammo to stand off and shoot an sob who tries to take it, i am old enough i really don’t give a damn anymore, when they took the word GOD away from our schools and pubilc goverment buildings this pissed me off, if you all who do not want the word god used go live in another country we don’t want you here, drag your as out of here and go line in iran you deserve each other, and leave my guns alone,
Save a foriegn attack, I think there is too much hysteria here. YES, the whittling of the Second is horrifying. WE need to elect those that believe in it. But an all out assault by US Govt on our weapons will NOT occur. Why?
Read some of the previous Vets’ statements. I think not many ACTIVE troops would follow an order as such. (I hope!)
First off, the United States of America is a Democratic-REPUBLIC, not a simple democracy. Democracies are volatile and devolve into mob rule fairly quickly. D-Republics always survive if their respective constitution is CONSTANTLY FOLLOWED.
Secondly, most spelling and/or grammatical errors are caused by typing in the dark or a bad keyboard like mine. Or not wanting to open up a dictionary or Word every time you want to respond. (I wrote this in Word, so the errors are spell-checker’s fault.) So stop insulting one another about grammatical conventions and MOVE ON.
It scares me that so many of you liberals won’t pay attention to what is happening in the world today, and what happened in the past. However, it is not surprising since the sound principles of government and economics ceased to be taught in 1900. So it’s the fault of your liberal education. How did we get out of the Great Depression? Not by FDR’s so-called “New Deal!” That made it last longer! (He also removed the gold and silver standards, paving the way to today’s inflation.) World War Two got us out of the Depression by making new jobs and taking people out of the regular workforce. So if you or Dear Leader Obama thinks you can “Neo-Deal” your way out of this RECESSION, you are gravely mistaken.
Conservatives are (usually) not fascists! Liberals seem to forget that most fascist dictatorships are SOCIALIST! (Think Nazi party) If anything, conservatives lean towards ANARCHY!
To you people that hate America, get the hell out of my country, which just so happens to be the BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, BAR NONE! Look at the USA, and then look at any other country. Are their citizens as rich and happy as the average American? Are they as free?
Why does America need to care or even want to placate and please other nations? If they don’t like us, that’s their problem, not ours. We don’t need the approval of Kazakhstan to build our own products in our own country.
Now for the main issue at hand…
The second amendment was, as were all principles of the Constitution, designed to protect the PEOPLE from the GOVERNMENT! A government exists to SERVE the people, not use them as ATMs. As Justin said, the wording is key. So it is with all other principals of the Constitution. Your argument is that if a law says no one can buy, use, or own a gun, the criminals wont be able to get one. Criminals break laws. Or else they wouldn’t be criminals. And, if no law abiding CITIZEN owns a gun for self-defense, the criminals will be able to take whatever they want. Who does a mugger rob? A police officer on payday or a little old lady after cashing her Socialist Security check? Unless little old lady has a .44 magnum (or any other gun) strapped to her hip, its going to be a sad day for granny. Your argument then, dear liberal friends, is null and void. Unless you like criminals in the house you owned until they took it from you because you couldn’t defend it with vaguely grand words about a peaceful resolution and a one world govornment. Yes, there are people who shouldn’t own guns. Yes, there are insane rednecks who hoard guns like a toddler hoards chocolate. And yes, some people use guns to kill other people. But those people are usually locked up in prison, a mental institute, or live very far away from everyone else. They make up 2 percent of gun owners. Should the majority be punished because a minority screwed up?
Anyone who has a problem with my position, or just wants to debate with me, send me an e-mail at canalanthefirst@yahoo.com. Please keep it civil.
We need to write our Senators and urge them not to ratify this treaty but make sure to make them aware that if they betray us and ratify it that there will be consequences: ie they will be voted out of office in the next election. We need to urge the Senate also to begin immediate investigation of the Obama Administration (all of ‘em) for corruption, abuse of power and breach of contract (ie: he violates his oath of office to uphold and defend the Constitution on a daily basis) and then impeach him, throw him out of office (or better, into a federal prison for 99 to life without the possibility of parole). We also need to get the U.S. to withdraw from the United Nations and expell the United Nations from American soil. Dark times are ahead if fail to stop this would-be Emperor from his endgame of a socialist-marxist nanny state we are. Barack Obama, Joseph Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein and all others like them need to be evicted from Capital Hill now or at the earliest possible moment. Oh heck, just fire every last Senator and Congressmen. Clean sweep.
God save the Republic.
In as much as God limited the intelligence of man, it seems unfair He did not also limit mankinds stupidity.
I can back it up scripturally.
I am not arrogant for thinking and/or proclaiming that the USA is the greatest nation on the planet. That is pride, love, and respect given to those who died to keep me and my great nation free. Free from all the blubbering garbage that seems to flow from the minds that have written things just like what you have. How sad that you think your nation is great, but you don’t have the balls to proclaim it to the rest of us. I can not think of a single person that went to the Olympics and didn’t take all that pride with them. Each nation went there with love and hopes of succeeding to show the rest of the world how great there nation is. If you love your nation (which I do believe is one of great importance in history – and of culture) the there is no harm in saying so.
As someone said in a previous posting – paraphrased here “Intellegence is not knowledge, but the imagination that uses that knowledge.” You obviously have an education, but your education has limited you your imagination in so much as allowing you to stand in the shoes of other men. You think you know how things should be according to what you parents, teachers, and government have taught you for years. And even if you studied abroad, you still haven’t allowed your imagination to see things from all sides. I see where our way of life (US) affects other nations, and many times I would aggree with you about our governments noses being in places where they have no invitation. And while you may see an affect on your way of life by the choices made here in America, we still have every right to make the choices that best serve us. You may call that selfish, arrogant, and greedy…I call it my Constitutional Right for Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness. If you don’t like it, come over to American, become a citizen and do something about the same way we do.
The young people, the uneducated people, and the dreamers are the ones who voted for Obama. They know nothing of work, sacrifice, religion, and of course nothing about history or the importance of the constitution. If you have ever watched Jay Leno do his “jaywalking” episodes you know that most people interviewed could not identify our senators or representatives by pictures of them. America has been dumbing down for years now. Despite the influx of billions of educational dollars provided by lotteries and overtaxed citizens paying school tax, the education given is wrong in many instances…or worse, absent. I think Obama’s election is a perfect example of “the blind shall lead the blind and all will fall in the ditch”. Obama is a chameleon! He is not as he presents himself. He is in bed with the enemies of America and he is grabbing power in a way never seen by the American people. We have much more to fear than the 2d Amendment. We need to begin an underground movement to organize our own protection against this administration. Let’s not be like we were when Pearl Harbor was attacked. We have slept too long. Put out the word to everyone. America must be reclaimed by those of us who love her. We cannot wait..we cannot sleep, and we cannot ignore this threat. It will come into our lives and destroy us all if we are complacent. God Bless America and the patriots who will stand together to save the nation. Count me in as one of them.
I am from New Zealand and extremely proud of it, You may know us as one of the few places in the world with the “balls” to stand up to the US and ban your nuclear warships from our ports. I never mentioned it before because up until now i wasnt asked.
My education, along with most countrymen of my generation, has indeed allowed me to learn from the past, and not be brainwashed by the radicals and fearmongers. For many years I travelled the world with my eyes wide open and seen things from both sides, it was my job to do so. I have also spent several years in your country, which has allowed me to form my opinion. I absolutely agree that you have a right to be proud of your country, but I dont agree that you have a right to force that opinion on others who may not feel the same. Many, many people from my country, including some of those close to me, have also died fighting for my freedom and on April 25 every year, along with Australia, we honour those people with pride and respect. Our people often fight, and die, alongside your people but unlike the US we are not a target for radicals and crazies because we are known as quiet achievers. We are quiet, we achieve and wherever possible we leave the dignity of the innocent intact. Sadly the US cannot say the same.
I have guns, my government knows i’ve got them and I have no fear of loosing them, despite restrictions on owning MSSA’s. I hunt, I fish, I ski, I enjoy an outdoor’s lifestyle with my family, I have Life, Liberty, and Happiness, and I have no fear of my neighbour (whoever he may be). Sadly, this is changing for the worse due to the US influence on the world, and what I can’t understand is that when you finally get a president able to recognise this and move towards repairing the damage, which will ultimately improve your lifestyle, he gets branded a traitor and the lynch mob starts to gather.
There are none so blind as those who wont see.
Perhaps it is you who should move here, and learn to live in a place relatively free of fear and paranoia.
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I DARE THIS TO HAPPEN TO AMERICA
WE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TO RUN THE COUNTRY—VOICE OF THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE.
THIS IF WE LET IT HAPPEN—-WILL BE THE DOWN FALL OF AMERICA—-THE ONLY REASON THE USA HAS NOT BEEN ATTACKED ON OUT GROUNDS IS THE FACT THAT WE THE PEOPLE ARE ARMED AND READY —JUST AS OUR FOREFATHERS WAS——REMEMBER THE ALAMO—-ALL PEOPLE FROM OTHER STATES BACKED TEXAS—-GOD BLESS THEM—-WE CAN AND WILL DO IT AGAIN—-DON’T TREAD ON TEXAS FOR ANY REASON—THANK YOU
Makes me wonder even more what Obama’s agenda really is. Also if it goes back to what he was really being groomed for from the begining. TOO BRING DOWN THIS COUNTRY FROM THE INSIDE. Look where we are headed.
Think about it!!
I was not for Obama because I knew this would happen. It seems to me that Obama really came from somewhere else and isn’t for the United States. For people who actually use guns for saftey and hunting, we all agree that it’s wrong for Obama to take away our guns. Amo is getting low, Obama probably is taking them away slowly, first our source of amo then the guns. All I can say is stay alive in your hearts, there is always hope. If there are no weapons left for war, so be it, it just means I’ll use my hands to strangle those who try to hurt my family and country. I want to personaly thank all the marines from the bottom of my heart and shake your hands for fighting for our country!!!!
Yeah realist, you are an idiot, look what the Afgans did to the Russian army! After years of getting their butts kicked by a militia they gave up and went home with their tales tucked between their legs. Don’t think that we couldn’t do the same thing, we did it before (1776).
I used to think like you do about registration and such, but even though we’re FORCED to register in about the worst state to live in, Hawaii, with it’s ridiculous gun laws; fact is, registration means someone has the ability to track down EVERY law-abiding gunowner and confiscate their weapons. They won’t be able to get the guns away from the criminals, obviously, as they won’t register their illegal weapons. So, where does that leave us? Screwed, big time! Many think the libs won’t take away our guns; well, they sure have a funny way of showing it and they’re making it as difficult as possible with their backdoor approaches of wanting to serialize casings, etc. How exactly is that going to reduce crime or make it easier for police to find the criminals? Heck, go to a gun range and pick up a few empty serialized casings and plant it when you, the criminal, goes and commits a crime; now the police KNOW who did it… the guy whose serials are on the casings…. yeah, right!
By the way, I don’t know of any registration system preventing school shootings, etc. Frankly, if schools weren’t designated “gun-free”, many students and faculty lives could’ve been saved as I understand that in the VA Tech shootings, many people had their legal guns locked in their vehicles (in accordance with the law) but the shooter didn’t… if these people were allowed to carry concealed on the school grounds, could someone perhaps have taken the shooter out before he killed so many? Could this have been done at Columbine H.S.? What about the church in Colorado Springs; if a church security volunteer hadn’t been armed legally with a firearm, how many hundreds of church-goers would’ve been killed as the perp had hundreds of rounds of ammo with him? Yes, not even a CHURCH is safe from the criminal element bent on killing people. Funny how criminals KNOW that “gun-free zones” means that only THEY will have guns so they can wield their havoc at will…..
Dumbfounded says that the non-threatening countries aren’t targeted by terrorists, etc…. let’s see, Britain has banned firearms and yet they got hit by terrorists, not to mention their crime rate sucks… Hmm… I had heard that Australia’s victim crimes have dramatically increased since they banned firearm ownership…. funny, I “did the math” and it’s not agreeing with Dumbfounded… perhaps that’s why he/she is “dumbfounded”… or just plain dumb…
Jim,
I don’t think it’s a question of where Obama was born; he was born in Hawaii, but the real question is where his parents were born. Unless I’m mistaken, unless both parents were American citizens, he couldn’t even run for the office of President. Hawaii’s DOH apparently has that information but won’t release it. They’ll issue a “certification of live birth” which says when/where he was born and the name of the parents, but nothing to indicate whether they were citizens or not. Hawaii also has a “certificate of live birth” which has information such as what State the birth parents were born in. If his father was not born in the U.S., it should disqualify Obama from being President. But then, Hawaii is a Democratic stronghold and heck, most of the people in State/Local government there are Democrats… what did we expect?
You obviously aren’t a student of US history. The second amendment was aimed at all US citizens. Thomas Jefferson said, ” The constitutions of most our states and of the United States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press.”
Get it right and quit acting like a socialist commie like BHO and his cronies in Congress.
Do your research man. Britian got “hit” because of Tony Blair’s relationship with George Bush. “Lie down with dogs and you’re gonna get fleas”
You are correct, some Australian crime rates have been rising, assualts have climbed from 623 per 100,000 in 1996 to 840 per 100,000 in 2007. Doesnt take a gun to assault someone and since Australians never had the right to carry hand guns in public in the first place they were never part of the equation. Most assaults occured in the home (i.e. domestic violence) and on the street outside pubs and night clubs late at night where most people dont actually carry rifles and such, so once again firearm ownership has little bearing on this. I would encourage you to visit this site http://www.aic.gov.au/topics/violence/stats/ to “get the facts”, but as someone else has said here, “why let the facts get in the way of a good story” or in this case “paranoid hysteria”
I watched the video, read through the CIFTA, and every single blog comment on here. HOOAH to all who feel that this treaty and all socialist actions of our government are now for the best interest of the enemy, NOT the USA! To those of you “Realist” “Dumbfounded” and other lost souls who do not understand the severity of what is being done, GET OUT! You sure as hell aren’t PATRIOTS and you don’t deserve to be AMERICANS. Find a pansy country that likes pansies and move there you liberal pricks. Bill A. W. wrote: “No one is going to separate the Obama supporters from the anti-Obama patriots. They are going to be just as dead as many of us will be.” Those words are the construct of what will be our second civil war…that will evolve into WWIII when other nations step in to try and save us from destroying ourselves. Americans are divided and therein lies the problem, “UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.” We are losing sight of what we stood for. We are becoming what we once hated. We are becoming the enemy. “We need change” blow it out your ass! Ellen Yates posted: “It is time to return to individual liberties, sovereign states, the Fair Tax, less government, less regulation, and time for a new American party: Why not call it the Constitutionalist Party.” I think this is a great idea but the powers that be will never allow it. Sure you could try, but whenever, whomever got into office they would be assassinated (by our own government). We are corrupt and like every other democracy that has ever existed, we too shall fail. I grew up on a farm in southwest Wisconsin, the community there is much the same way as it used to be 30 years ago, aside from the fact that we now have internet. We like it here and you are NOT welcome. America is still strong here and we have NOT gotten lost in the smoke and mirrors that seem to have corrupted your minds and hearts. Some people believe that “the pen is mightier than the sword”…I disagree. Michelle wrote, “If there are no weapons left for war, so be it, it just means I’ll use my hands to strangle those who try to hurt my family and country.” Remember that war used to be fought with the blade…if we run out of ammunition it will be again. I also read numerous posts of individuals who are stock piling ammunition. Load your own and make them hot rounds. (re sight arms to adjust for the “reach out and touch somebody rounds”) You will save yourselves a shit ton of cash instead of going to the store to buy Federal or Western ammo with state and federal imposed taxes. To all that have fought for our country I applaud you! When you did your tours there was a reason for it. I cannot say the same for what our soldiers are doing now. They are serving their country but for whom? Who is pulling the strings and for what cause? First pull our troops out, set up command forts on the boarders of our country and get ready for the row boats/dilapidated sea vessels (whatever those dirt bags can scrounge up) to show up and blow them out of the water. Do you honesty think that our government (Obama and friends) will be able to diplomatically fix a HOLY WAR as old as mankind? That thinking is absolutely preposterous. It cannot be done, we are different people with different callings. EQUAL BUT DIFFERENT…do you get it? Ron Olson posted, “Barack Obama is an Elitist who thinks those of us who disagree with him are bitter and clinging to our religion and our guns. I am proud to cling to my Bible and my guns, but not because I am bitter, because I am American. Because I am a Christian and a Patriot.” I couldn’t agree more…
AMEN Brother! Our nation is so screwed up right now because of people taking things out of context and picking & choosing events, statistics, etc. to suit their needs. The travesty of the 1st amendment’s interpretation is but one of the problems; for some reason, I don’t see “separation of Church and State” anywhere in it. And unlike the foolish who similarly say they can’t find the world “rapture” in the Bible, well, they’re looking at the wrong translation… try the Latin version. The bottom line is we’re the only nation in the world that has guaranteed its citizens the right to arm themselves. It’s what keeps our nation free from becoming a dictatorship, although BHO and his cohorts obviously want to do that before his term is over. As for those who are opposed to gunowners and call America a spiteful, hateful country, well, as you said, LEAVE! Perhaps Iran or Pakistan will suit them better.
Armed to the Teeth…. I thought you read all the posts!, you obviously missed the one which said I am not an American nor live in the US. Realist, Don American, Voice of Reason and whoever else able to see through the bullshit here, keep up the good work. To the rest of you I have only one further comment, You’re just a bunch of Radical F**kwits that will implode into yourselves should the shit ever hit the fan.
Dumbfounded…apparently I did miss your comment about not being an AMERICAN. I’m happy about that, for I do not believe you could understand what it is that Americans are so upset about. You wouldn’t understand unless you saw how our nation is changing. It’s not that New Zealand isn’t beautiful…IT IS! Absolutely untainted by the rest of the world; and furthermore one of the only paradises left. I have been there and it’s absolutely amazing. I do not wish to belittle you or your nation. However, YOU have no clue what Obama’s mission is, and the rest of our nation doesn’t either. He says one thing and does another. It’s scary to see an individual who does not share our ideals and values lead our great nation. Dumbfounded wrote: “I have guns, my government knows I’ve got them and I have no fear of loosing them.” Well that’s great…you like the right to own your weapons don’t you? Obama is trying diligently to take that right away from us. This is not a plan to register weapons so everyone knows where they are…the CIFTA is just part of the plan to take them away. As with every other government in the world there are hidden agendas. Which we as citizens have no control over. My sister studied abroad in London when the terrorist attacks of 9/11 occured. Petrified, she loaded up her “needed” belongings and headed to the embassy. When she arrived, a crowd of individuals were cheering around it. England has a right to hate us because we kicked their asses for trying to rule us. How many had to die before they finally tucked tail and swam home. DON’T THINK FOR A SECOND THAT WITHOUT THE U.S.A the world would be a better place. YOU WOULD BE A FOOL! Just think about what the world would be like had we NOT gotten involved in WWII? How many people would have been exterminated? Don’t tell me that Hitler wouldn’t have thought about a nice bungalow in New Zealand. The whole world would be different…and don’t you forget it! I think for the most part America tries to be the peacekeeper of the world. Would the U.N save your precious New Zealand if a hoard of angry bastards invaded your country? NO…they would stand and watch you take a machete to the head. America would help you in a heart beat…and you know it! You and your family have nothing to worry about. No one is trying to kill and destroy New Zealand. You hate our government, not Americans and yet you call us radicals and fear mongers. Dumbfounded wrote: “I have Life, Liberty, and Happiness, and I have no fear of my neighbour (whoever he may be). Sadly, this is changing for the worse due to the US influence on the world.” I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Apparently you believe that the US is making your life less desirable. That the place your were born in is changing directly because of what “we” have done. If that’s the case then welcome to my world because everything is changing here too! NOT FOR THE BETTER I MIGHT ADD! I come from a family of farmers. We embrace GOD, FAMILY, and FRIENDS. That’s it…GOD, FAMILY and FRIENDS! Our goal in life is to be happy and love and care for those around us. Is this NOT an ideal that you share in New Zealand? How does this make me a radical when I see my government doing shit that I cannot and will not tolerate? And now for the rest of your ridiculous statement: “and what I can’t understand is that when you finally get a president able to recognize this and move towards repairing the damage, which will ultimately improve your lifestyle, he gets branded a traitor and the lynch mob starts to gather.” There is no way that I can even muster a reply to this because it’s gibberish. Know what you are talking about before you open your pie hole.
FOR GARFY FUCH…there is NO separation between church and state for me. Anyone with a brain knows that this great nation’s ideals were founded in one simple sentence. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL! You have the right of freedom of religion…BUT OUR NATION IS CHRISTIAN! You have to wonder what GOD thinks about the shit storm that is brewing down here? hehehe!
I had withdrawn from this rediculous debate but your comments deserve a rebuttal..
Our world is changing for the worse because of the actions of the US and the voilence it encourages. We can’t even take a commercial flight from one end of our own country to the other without having to go thru draconian security checks imposed by your FAA. I can’t take my cessna on a simple 30 minute flight without filing a flight plan 2 days in advance to be approved by our CAA in Wellington. This is in direct response to 9/11, and a directive of the US govt, apparently theyre scared i might fly it into a building. There are numerous restrictions in my daily life imposed as a direct result of US security concerns. It’s creating fear and paranoia, and dramatic rises in violent crime. As a nation we are not used to this, dont need it and not pleased with it. If you werent so bloody unpopular in the world we wouldnt be suffering from the fall out of your cock ups. And don’t even get me started on WW2. It staggers me to think that you pricks still believe that you “won” the war, when all you did was get dragged in kicking and screaming at the closing stages to help mop up. Check your own history, your actually not that good at winnning” wars, even when you fight amongst yourselves.
Your question “Would the U.N save your precious New Zealand if a hoard of angry bastards invaded your country?” YES, they would. We are a highly regarded member of the security council, there are a number of New Zealanders holding high profile positions within the UN (Our last Prime Minister, Helen Clark, holds the third most powerful position). We provide peace keeping forces all over the world in all sorts of conflicts, including mopping up US messes from illegal wars.
You are right to a degree, I don’t hate Americans, I have american friends and I have family living there, but I don’t hate your govt either. What I hate is arrogance, and you lot are swimming in it, so don’t give me any of your sanctimonious, holier than thou shit and tell me to shut my pie hole.
As to your reliance on God, Pray in one hand and Shit in the other, see which gets fillled first. Actions of man produces results, good and bad, and burying your head in the sandbag of religion isnt going to help you.
One thing is apparent in all of this, you are blind to the rest of the world and the impact you have on it, you might have been here but you apparently didnt see anything. Yes we have a beautiful country, we are proud of it and we damn well want to keep it that way, and if that means not joining in the games of the biggest war mongers on the planet then so be it. I have nothing further to add to this forum without getting personal so my final comment is that I will agree to disagree and leave you to wallow in your own shit.
I am an Honorably Discharged U.S. Navy 3rd Class Boatswains Mate & Assault Boat Caxswain – Vietnam Veteran (1972 – 1975).
It is our solemn duty to remove Obama and the other Traitors (regardless of Party) in our government per the following paragraph as written by Thomas Jefferson in our Declaration of Independence:
“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
Here are some historical facts on the meaning of the Second Amendment; facts that the “self-proclaimed”
Constitutional Scholar Obama should have known:
The meaning behind the intent of the amendment is not difficult to discover. The founding fathers can speak for themselves.
“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” – Second Amendment
“On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the
Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p322
What is the Purpose of the Amendment? To defend Liberty from the transgressions of OUR OWN government by confirming the right of the people to possess arms.
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” – Thomas Jefferson
“To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them…” – Richard Henry Lee, Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic (1787-1788)
“As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might prevent their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” – Tench Coxe in “Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution.” Under the pseudonym “A Pennsylvanian” in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789
“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops…” – Noah Webster, “An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution” (1787)
“To disarm the people (is) the best and most effectual way to enslave them…” – Geroge Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380
“Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence…” – Geroge Washington, first President of the United States, and “the Father of our Country”
What is the Militia?
“The right of the people to keep and bear…arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country…” – James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789)
“A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves…and include all men capable of bearing arms.” – Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer (1788) at 169
“What, sir, is the use of the militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of
liberty.” – Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress at 750 (August 17, 1789)
“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.” – Geroge Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426
Is the Second Amendment a State or individual right?
“The Constitution shall never be construed…to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” – Samuel Adams, Debates & Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87
“The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.” – Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-188
“The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.” – Patrick Henry, 3 Elliot, Debates at 386
“Arms in the hands of citizens [may] be used at individual discretion…in private self-defense…” – John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of the Government of the USA, 471 (1788)
“The right of the people to keep and bear arms has been recognized by the General Government; but the best security of that right after all is, the military spirit, the taste for martial exercise, which has always distinguished the free citizens of these States… Such men form the best barrier to the liberties of America.” – Gazette of the United States, October 14, 1789
Obama is a Media Whore, an Intellectual Prostitute, a Marxist to his very core; whose one and ONLY original thought was that of sucking on his Mother’s nipple upon birth in Kenya. He and most of the other members of both Houses of Congress should be arrested and tried for Treason. They all placed their hands on the Holy Bible and took an Oath and Affirmation to Support and Defend the Constitution of these United States. They all have blatantly and willfully violated that sacred honor that, “We The People” bestowed upon them. As far as I am concerned, they are more of a danger to our country, our way of life, our future and that of our children and their children; than any invading army, the Taliban, or Al Qaida.
I must agree with all those writing before me. It seems the older I get the More I see our rights going away. My Father was in World War 1. My older brothers were in the second War. I’m glad they can’t see what they fought for. But where are all the voters ? Are we truly that far gone that there is no outcry. It’s just not the gun issue here it’s all our fredoms.
I’m glad I am this old I might not see the end to all this but our Great country will fall…..
THE FIRST ARTICLE IN OUR CONSTITUTION DISALLOWS ABAMA TO BE OUR PRESIDENT. HE WAS NOT BORN IN THE CONTNENTAL STATES. THAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE FIRST ARTICLE TO PREVENT ENGLISH-BRITISH-FRENCH-BORN, ETC., FROM BECOMING A US PRESIDENT.
Im 29 and it seems to me that all our god given rights are being challenged. It also seems to me that our troops are never fighting for freedom because when they fight for freedom they fight for the freedom of other courtries. We are slowly getting our freedom taken away and it will come to a point where we just have to agree to be a VICTIM. And can i say one more thing, all those little college bastards that voted for obama don’t have any idea what they have done and I hope their little game of follow the leader put the outcome of this mistake in their laps.
Guns that are a problem in this country are those that are illegally obtained in the first place. There are more than enough laws about guns for legitimate owners. The Columbine students broke 22 gun laws…more gun control laws would not and cannot lower the illegal use of guns.
The people will finally get tired and clean house,the politicians have every right to be afraid. Why are the shelves bare of ammo? Come with all dispatch B. Travis
Guns are only one thing in the string of non American activities for Barry Soetoro AKA Barrack Hussein Obama. I will not go into all his escapades except to tell you some of his activities have been felonious. Hey guys and gals Let’s have him incarcerated. With all the data and information he has had before him in this first half year, we cannot allow him to leave the states. Legal restrictions must be filed against him for the present and more high powered lawyers are needed to work with Dr. Orly Taitz, who has a very good law suit filed and on the calendar to force Obama to unseal his documents he should have done before the election. You can see what Dr Taitz is doine at http://www.orlytaitzesq.com
i may be old (nam 59-60) but i still know how. have all my gear, my go to hell bag, im ready, but my only fear is i might be to old to get a piece of it. i still put a168 in the :X: at 600.
I believe it’s time for me to write to Governor Strickland and every member of the Ohio House and Senate, demanding that cessation from the Union be introduced as a formal resolution.
Realist;
Did you ever hear how a hand full of Jews held an entire German regiment at bay for several weeks with just a few weapons, it was in the Warsaw Ghetto. Maybe you should start reading past history and you will see how when gun right were taken away from the populas the tyrany began. You liberal mush heads just don’t understand what will happen if all of the BO agendas takes place, get your head out of the sand.
Let ‘em come. I’m locked and loaded. No foriegn or domestic SOB is taking my guns. They can have mine when I go through the front door feet first in a body bag. Screw ‘em.
@ gil..
berg (in berg v. obama) would have raised that issue had he been able to do so..
the real issue here is that the main stream media never brought that issue to the fore so the people could demand the “vault” birth certificate and not be sidetracked by an obviously phoney “birth record”..
obama is following the alinsky bible for taking the government over..
as to the issue of gun ownership, everyone who has a weapon should be at least familiar with guerrilla warfare as practiced world wide now and in the American Revolution..
are any of the readers familiar with the book “PATRIOTS” by James W. Rawles..?
if not you should read it now..
the american economy has been damaged by the government efforts rather than stabilized..
never send a liberal socialist to do the work of a real conservative.. when you do you wind up with what we have now..
historically, FDR tried all these same actions to end the great depression and it was only WW-2 that finally ended it, no help from FDR..
also, for all you patriots, read “Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto” for some background..
also consider “The 5000 Year Leap: A Miracle That Changed the World” for more background on what the founders were thinking when they wrote the constitution..
and NO, i am not a shill for amazon rather i am an old american who is amazed at the slick chicago political tricks that allowed the current president to be elected..
AMAZED..
i have much more to say but it all boils down to this:
1. attend the TEA parties..
2. push for a 3 million american march on washington DC..
3. Speak up, enter politics, back good conservative candidates, carry a sign, do NOT allow indifference to be the death knell of american liberty..
i leave you with a line from the movie “True Romance” where the female lead asks:
“what do you need THAT for” referring to a really huge chrome revolver to which the male lead replies:
“it’s better to have it and not need it than to need it and not HAVE it”..
Guns what guns? Damn those memory lapses. Damn cat ate the ammo and now he’s blowing it out his butt. The government can do the same.
Guess that just means we’ll have to register and report our plastic steak knives instead.
We need a real effective plan to change the leftist leadership in Washington DC. We need to begin organizing ourselves to start impeachment proceedings against BHO . It will take time to get him out and when he goes he will have to take Biden with him, that is the law of impeachment. Secondly, we have 16 months to change the leadership in congress. A republican dominated house will allow for a new speaker. I don’t know who that would be, but the pressure would be on republican representatives to nominate a leader for the people who started this whole process of removing the socialist liberal traitors we have now. We can do it, Obama’s popularity is plumeting fast and his true colors have made Americans cringe to the bone. It will take time to undue his damage to our country, but not all is lost if we organize now. Semper Fi…
I talk occasionally (only when they meet me to face-to-face and I strive to keep some semblance of civility) to the “liberals” who elected this farce (I won’t even give him the courtesy of the title) of a megalomaniac whose sole intent and purpose is the destruction of the United States of America. Every “liberal” I’ve come in contact with is singing his praises and talking about all the “change” and “good” things that are being done. I live in a rural area where most of the people are deemed to be “conservative” yet it seems approx. half of the population in this area is in thrall to this excuse for — there are not sufficient words to convey my disgust, loathing and other negative opinions of Obama.
I stated when this demon was nominated for the Presidential election that it would be a landslide in his favor. No one believed me. I have been stating since that 2008 was the last time the United States of America would have a Presidential electon. No one believes me.
The Republican party is as bad as the Democrats — politicians want to line their own pockets and feed their delusions of grandeur and those are the only reasons they run for office. They care nothing about the people who elect them and until the American public understands and acknowledges and acts on this information, NOTHING will be changed in Washington — or at the state or local level.
All patriots and freedom lovers should be acknowledging that 95% of the American population is so entrenched in their cozy little nests that they will not sacrifice their comforts to overthrow a corrupt, worthless government. Until that love of creature comforts is overcome, things are simply going to roll downhill at a faster and faster pace.
Also, don’t forget that approx. 65% of the workforce is employed by the government (not including the military) — there are approx. 1,800 government jobs in this small county alone so surely true patriots and freedom lovers can see the odds.
Over my cold dead body will they get my guns. Lets hope and pray it does not come to that.
When are all the people going to wake up! I know — when it is too late.
How many active devil dogs, jar heads, jet jockeys, merchant marines, and CG do you think will follow Hussein against patriotic Americans? Not so many, I think. Oath involves enemies both foreign and domestic. I see Hussein as a domestic enemy; although, there appears to be evidence that he could be considered foreign. Did we ever see his birth certificate?
Semper Fi!
America, Wake up. Obama is not an American Citizen. We need to stand up and demand he show his Birth record. When proven he is not the Pres. Everything he has done in office has to be undone. Biden would not be the Pres. Nor any of the Dems. They would have to hold another real election. It would put America in a mess for awhile but maybe that is what we need to wake us all up. I am 67 years old and I blame myself for just being so pasive for so many years. But believe me I would die for my grandchildren and g-grandchildrens right to bear arm, vote, and free speech. We are Americans. I was raised by an Irishman that worked his way on a frieghter to America and became a citizen in 6 months and was in WWII at the end. He knew what America was and what it was about.
Thanks for letting me vent. God Bless America and all our fighting men and women. We lost a 22 yr old in Iraq and he believed he was fighting for our country and he was.
Let the country fall apart…so we can put it back together again ( the way it used to be ) The illegals ( foreigners ) are already here – if they know where the guns are , they will stay away – the others are fair game. If we have no guns -all is fair game for the taking. They are getting our income and now our guns. Forget the bad guys with the towels on their head from sandland -our military will take care of them no sweat…its the hostile pretty faces here on our T.V.s, radios, colleges, and government offices that are tearing the country apart. Why’s ammo so expensive? Supply and demand and the opportunity to get rich – the gun and ammo manufacturers love Obama…dont be fooled. Oil companies found a way and now the gun people did too. I love what this country used to be -what it stands for -I served in its military for 20 years -our brave soldiers are in harms way I hope for something- I just dont really understand what is happening I suppose? Take the guns – then when we protect and fight with our fists, we’ll lose our right to bear the attached arms we were born with. Thank you Barrack -Joe – Nancy- Chavez – and the other blind citizens.
…And why was he in Iraq? Because he was in the military and following the orders of a megalomaniac who forced an unjust and illegal war on his citizens based on the premise that Iraq had WMD’s and posed a direct threat to the citizens of the US, None of which has been proven, and you think your new president is the problem ??
Obama is one of the most dangerous presidents we ever had. He is out to destroy America and turn the USA into a second class country like most of the Muslim controlled countries. Any person who refuses to show his birth certificate and his passport is in my book, a traitor to this country of the USA.
LOCK AND LOAD AMERICAN SOLIDERS OBARMA MUST GO HE IS A DISGRACE TO OUR COUNTRY HE TOOK A OATH TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION NOT SELL US OUT HE MUST BE IMPEACHED FOR TREASON OBARMA WANTS A FIGHT HE WILL GET ONE
Obama is one of the most dangerous presidents we ever had. VERY TRUE!!!! He has the power and support from not only the younger generations but also that of surrounding enemy countries to DESTROY the United States of America from the INSIDE. We will become a third world country soon enough. He is destroying us financially as we speak and allowing more ILLEGAL immagrants to cross our borders and suck us dry of resources originally created for AMERICAN CITIZENS. Now he is trying to dictate our gun laws, financial institutions, American auto industries and soon even our medical insurance options will become Monopolized by the Government. We were once “ONE NATION UNDER GOD”…..now we have become One Nation Going Under…I thank GOD for our military men and women who fight and the far too many that give their lives so that my children and grandchildren will know and live in freedom…… Obama may do a lot of damage before he is finally stopped but “Freedom is just another word for Nothing left to lose!!!!!! By the Grace of God We always prevail…..
As a veteran who fought for our freedoms, it sickens me that we allowed this individual to take the Presidential office and muddy it. It has become extremely difficult to say what you think without being labelelled as a militant. So I will risk saying it here, If our direction doesn’t change I am going to move to Australia or New Zealand.
Dear Patriots,
If this pig gets wings, it is most assuredly our call to arms. Actually I think we are a bit late and have let too much damage occur already.
As Thomas Jefferson once said:
“God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. …
And what country can preserve its liberties, if it’s rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure.”
The American People have gotten very very relaxed as to what our elected leaders are doing in the name of terrorism and other issues. “We the People” need to start demanding from our elected leaders to stop removing our constitution rights. We the People need to start getting more involved in what our Govt. Leaders are doing, both domestic and forigen.
We the People need to hold our leaders accountible for their actions and remove them from office. We the People need to remove leaders that are only doing things that only self serve them and their cronies.
“WE THE PEOPLE” need to take back our Govt from these self serving leaders and give it back to the PEOPLE.
Because if “WE THE PEOPLE” dont start taking more action against our self serving leaders, WE THE PEOPLE will end up where we statred 233 years ago under the rule of a KING.
Sence the american people like to vote one party mostly, because there great great great, or great great, or great parence and parence were and are homeosexuals and by God there going to stick there branes up there ass and be homeosexuals just as well!
The american people are getting the kind of government they realy deserve!
It is very alarming to thouse of ous who are far more aware and are independent, knowing that either way in this one party system the clouser you get to the top of the party it all merges into all the same so nothing wil change untill the peope in this country are hurt so bad that they cry in anglash, only then wiull they wake up and lots of others will just never confrount the truth! They can never see eval anywhere, for they are so overwhelm with it they don’t dare see it, even when it kills them!
The 2nd ammendment is in place in case people forget the other ones and Why it was at the top of the founding fathers agenda.They can have my guns-but bullets first.A person with a gun is a citizen,a person without one is a subject
July 15th, 2009 at 12:46 am
…And why was he in Iraq? Because he was in the military and following the orders of a megalomaniac who forced an unjust and illegal war on his citizens based on the premise that Iraq had WMD’s and posed a direct threat to the citizens of the US, None of which has been proven, and you think your new president is the problem ??
SO we are back to the whining that “everything is Bush’s fault WAAA WAAA WAAAAA.Sometime you will have to be a MAN and take resposibility for the morons you elect.The dems were also FOR that war(if you can fire up that last brain cell and remember)The only difference was,they expected to win over a weekend.Also remember other nations got the same intelligence we did.But we can thank Bill Clinton for releasing the pilot of the plane that hit tower 1-so how far back you wanna go?This is O”S deal now,he was supposedly elected to “fix” whatever you were unhappy with.If you were unhappy then,i really wanna see you a year from now lol
This is not what we signed up for I never voted for this man and i will not support him ever. I think the people need to stick together and boot his ass out, This none american should not be in office.
HOLY SHIT JUDSON…ever heard of spell check! Where are you from? How old are you? I’m not trying to pick on you but your grammar is alarming to me. I have a hard time following your comment about homosexuals? You don’t like homosexuals? Your post has absolutely nothing to do with this forum. Go back to school! When you’ve completed written composition; then enter into a political conversation such as this.
The ObamaramadingdongAntiChrist just may NOT have been elected by the people. He may have been installed by ACORN. And where is his birth certificate? Even his own grandmother says he was not born in the US.
Who is strong-arming the media so that they don’t report his abuses??? The Chicago mob?
Well if the French taught us one thing, it is this.
If the President, Congress and their Special Interest minions succeed in absolving our Second Amendment Rights… “Off with their heads!!”
Using American ingeuity it is time to commence the building of new modern, improved Guillotines along with a list of deserving Candidates.
I nominate the following Top Ten:
1 Nancy Pelosi
2 Harry Ried
3 Barney Franks
4 Ted Kennedy
5 Barbara Boxer
6 George Soros
7 Wolf Blitzer
8 Kieth Obermann
9 Dianna Feinstein
10 Chris Dodd
Americas Up for SALE. We should have a sale price of about 7.5 Trillon by the end of the current presidential term. Any one interested? If the Parties are allowed to add to the bailout the ruling on behalf of the NRA, then we will always be looked at as terrorist. Why should the NRA have any freakon influence on how bills and laws get past. They NRA is just a bunch of geretol filled old farts who have nothing better then trying to get everyone to buy a gun and regerster (with over inflated regitration prices) that they all get kick backs from. Lets blame all the littel organizations for the issue not Obama. He just doing what he is told to do.
I don’t own a gun at present but you all can count on the fact that I will within the next 24 hours, we all need to stock up and be ready for any and all, rag heads, and any other lowlife lookin for 27 virgins or any thisg else promised for being ass enough to buy that propaganda, GOD BLESS AND KEEP AMERICA “ALL AMERICAN”.
OK, many many great thoughts and opinions. BUT, someone at some time has to form a “group” or give instruction & direction to the people! If not, it’s all just words. Action is the key. Many say, well, you just vote them out. Do you actually believe that our votes are not “controlled”, blemished or “box-stuffed”? With the internet, direction can be swift, that is…..if the information is not restricted or eliminated all together. I notice all of the comments by ex-military people that are sick of this Obomanator and his threat to destroy the 2A, but what about people in the military today? are they going to “blindly” support him? Will the armed forces today rebel against his decisions to take away the guns from Americans that legally have their right to own them? Or, will they be brain-washed and actually kill Americans that refuse to give up their right to bear arms? Will a “new” government rise up here in Amercia and fight against the corrupt government we have today? Whose finance will support this? So, it would be nice to see some direction, thoughts on establishing something rather than just sitting back & complaining. Thoguhts? Ideas? Or, can this be referred to “attacking” our country and be deemed “terrosts”…..and martial law be used against you……i.e. taken away from your home in the middle of the night and never to be seen again? Scary………..
In reply to Donnyballgame24:
The armed forces will do what they are ordered to do. They are not trained to think for themselves. Much like the way we teach our children. Do as your told or face the consequences. They will be ordered to disarm us…and we will be at war with our own cousins, uncles and friends. We will be in control of our own demise and as I said in a previous post, we will have a civil war beyond what we can fathom. I’m afraid that few will live though what we are about to see.
I just saw an email where Obama was at a meeting with the Russians and not one of them would shake his hand. What does that tell you about our commander in chief? Do you think he is respected among other world leaders? No way. He bows and kisses the asses of every Muslim terrorist leader in the world. He has made a mockery of the presidency of the United States. That is a very big sign of disrespect when a foreign leader or representative will not even shake your hand!
O bama, has lied over and over. He has bashed the 2nd amendment at every turn since he has been in office. I guess he forgot the part in his oath about PROTECT AND DEFEND THAT OLD PIECE OF PAPER THAT HAS KEEP THIS COUNTRY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR THESE MANY YEARS. CAN YOU SAY IT’S TIME TO IMPEACH HIM???????????
Realist ,you are obviously a ultra liberal idiot . Even the Japenese were afraid to invade the USA during WW2 because of armed citizens behind every blade of grass .
I’m afraid laws are of little use to any of us for there have been many laws passed that were designed to protect our rights and previous administrations have trampled them as though they didn’t exist. Take the “Dick act of 1902″ or HR 11654. This clearly states that our guns can’t be taken, but also states that National Guard of a State can not be ordered to war outside the limits of the United States, and yet they have and are today.
It will fall to all of us to confront the young man who comes to your door asking for your weapons and then to support one another when that time comes. For I believe that those who warn of insurection are right. How many of you will have the courage when it comes?
As always, US Army vets will be there when the going gets tough and it will get tough.Boggles the senses when one considers how many Americans continue to support this bunch of radical, left wing nuts that are in charge. Never thought I would live long enough to see what is happening to our country. Very sad, isnt it?
In response to “Dan Fowler” after my reply: This is what’s wrong with most everyone…..we here about those not willing to give up their guns till they pry them from my cold dead fingers, etc. Tough guy mentality. But, when we see people being shot, stripped away from their families, considered “terrosts” and martial law used against people……when they come knocking at your door, how many people are really going to die for the sake of freedom? You going to leave your kids/family behind to defend for themselves without you? Isn’t this what the goverment wants? A reason to declare nation-wide martial law? This would certainley fit the bill for their desire to “thin down” the population. The armed forces need to un-brainwash themselves…..army, navy, air force, marines, etc. need to realize they are here to protect US! Not kill us! And realize there comes a point where the “commander in chief” is going against the constitution and needs to be removed from power…and all of his buddies as well. Watch things unfold here in the very near future…there will be a control on food, water, medicine, etc. in the final overall attempt to push those to take “the mark” in order to buy & sell. We will all soon have some very important choices to make……live for a short while now….or live forever in eternity. If you don’t have faith/hope…..what else is there to live for? God help us!
Tighter and stricter regulations on the second amendment of the constitution and the inability to purchace ammunition mean only on thing. Make EVERY bullet fired at the knuckel heads of the goone squad count (squeze don’t pull the trigger). You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hands! And I wish any one either foriegn or demestic would try to take away my God given right as an American citizen “the right to keep and bare arms”.
Well we’re sure complaining alot…NO HELP
Lot’s of people talking…..NO HELP
Empty threats……..NO HELP
Time to do something or shut up and take it!!!
Anyone know? When was the last war we actualy won?!
Think we can rise up against our own Government? Think again it’s to late..BUSH made sure of that!!!
there are over 24 mission vets who served this country not to give up our constitutuinal rights. were all trained by the best, and are all pert of the best, shooters etc. we are the the secret miltary when called upon. like rob says you can have my guns when you pry it from my cold dead hands. If we have to we will defend our freedom and country even if we have to take it back from you assholes in washington and S. schumer.
stand fast all you Marines you may be needed.
I also am very concerned about the gun issue and loss of the 2nd ammendment. I am sorry to say that our current president is an absolute hipocrit.
Look it up in the dictionary. It means actor. In addition to acting he has
managed to present the American people with a lot of grandure and crap
only to conceal what is really going on behind the scenes and under the radar. Just this past week he has appointed two fullfledged muslims supporting all we are fighting against to the office of homeland security. Did the press cover this……………….?? Asolutely not!! The election of this presidential impersonator did not just happen over night. Laugh if you want but the appointment of this actor has been well orchestrated over a number of years. Hitler would never have come to power if the country was economically and industrially strong….. He won by offering change to a country of people who have been beaten down with no where to turn. Hitler was a narscistic individual and many phycologist have indicated the current president is a narscistic person of the higest degree. Look it up in the dictionary. God Bless America and God forgive the man who will not salute her flag or the military men who defend her.
I wonder how this information would be used if in the wrong hands. IF they know someone is a registered gun owner then they can deduct that those who are not registered are not gun owners which would make them fair game for robbery or whatever else. I say if this were to get into the wrong hands because many registeries have been hacked in the past.
Secondly, I wonder if the 29 other nations that have radified this include anyone in the Taliban? Sure would make Bin Laden easier to find if he were registered.
Scott F says: “They NRA is just a bunch of geretol filled old farts who have nothing better then trying to get everyone to buy a gun and regerster (with over inflated regitration prices) that they all get kick backs from.”
Hey Scott, first of all, get a browser that will at least spell-check for you (Geritol, register, registration). Secondly, the NRA is NOT in favor of registration and would prefer NO registration at all (this would result in the government NOT knowing which of the law-abiding citizens have guns, without which people like Obama & Pelosi wouldn’t be able to find us and take our guns away… kind of like the aftermath of Katrina when Lousiana gestapos went to homes of gunowners and confiscated their guns).
It’s important for EVERY GUN OWNER in America to join the NRA if you haven’t already done so. I also support groups that can’t technically help me, like USCCA (U.S. Concealed Carry Association), only because I live in a state (Hawaii) where concealed carry is NOT allowed. (Technically it is, being a “may issue” state, but it hasn’t been done due to anti-gun police chiefs.)
Patrick Henry’s words from 1788:
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined”
God save America is not enough. We have to save it!
Our founding fathers wrote in the second amendment because they knew if this new government became to big and oppressive that the people would need weapons not only for their own protection, but to summon a citizen army to rid the evil doers who would wish to oppress the people.
Never in historys past has there ever been a govenment, regardless of how well intended that did not rot from within.
As long as this government is doing the will of the people, and caring for them in a mannor fitting free men, then they have nothing to worry about.
We all have a God given right to self preservation and self protection from anyone who would wish to do us harm.
There are already more than enough laws on the books to tackle the law breakers who would abuse that right. leave well enough alone, and get on with taking care of the peoples business.
Quit the fear mongering.
In response to Donny ballgames remark, when he ask how many would actually be willing to die for their families and freedom!
Look at histories past and the civil war, and too what then be the reason men and women go willingly to fight and die on foreign soil if not for the protection of our freedoms here at home!
perhaps your one that would cave in, but then, your right, no one really knows what they would do when the time comes that the government comes knocking on our door to lock up the citizens in civilian labor army camps.
Have you heard that there are Chinese citizens coming here to buy homes due to the depressed housing market, and too have you heard about the large Chinese population living and working in Mexico?
What’s going on anyway!
Why all of a sudden is our economy in the tolit, and people committing sueaside in groves which we aren’t hearing about?
Are we maybe really living in the last days, as fortold?
” CAN YOU HEAR THE ANGELES CRYING “
It may be time to rally all the pro- 2nd amendment rights citizens and march to Washington locked and loaded to get the socialist bastards attention. We need to make inaugeration day look like a picnic at a leper colony. Do you think they might get the hint if 5 million or 10 million armed Americans marched on DC? I think it is time to throw out all the fuckers who have bee selling us out for decades. Do we really have any representatives in Washington. I think they are all just out for themselves and don’t give a crap about us. We need to get rid of all of them and start over!!!!!! Trying to legalize the illegals and give them OUR social security. If Obama’s health care plan is so f-ing good, it should be good enough for all our elected too. Did you know his bank bail out was more blackmail than anything. All the banks were told they must accept the bailout money- but they had to sign over billions of their Class A stock in the process. What a way to take over the banking systems! Sounds like mafia, communist, socialist, what ever you call it, it shouldn’t be legal, and if we did it we would go to jail. Call me when the war starts right here in the USA.
“The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia was the Work of Jewish Brains, Jewish Dissatisfaction and Jewish Planning, whose goal is to create a New Order in the world.
What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish Brains and Jewish planning, shall also, through the same mental and Physical forces, Become a reality all over the world.”
When guns and ammo are controlled only the criminals will have the guns/ammo. When you purchase a gun from a gun show the form/ call-in process automatically records and registers the gun to the buyer. I am not sure of the ammo but suspect there is a record of that also even though no call in permission is required.
Be careful when buying ammo. Remember when none (even reload materials) could be found on the shelves last winter? The ammo that later filled those shelves is encoded to record the name, ammo caliber, amount and frequency of purchase along with any and all materials to self load. There will come a time when you will be required physically show the ammo you have on hand for a count. I have heard the number of a 2 box limit (or equilvent) per caliber to be enacted in the future but I have not verified or found the box count requirements per caliber allowed. I believe April 2010 is the date where all unencoded ammo is to be used, destroyed or turned in. HA…like that will happen… Obama said that our guns would not be taken away (lie) but he said nothing about the ammo.
PS.. I have been in Iraq and Afghanistan for the last 5 years (Govt Contractor) and back only a few months. As far as I can see this country has gone to the dogs and flea control is not working.
The military does not need to be un-brainwashed. They know the new ‘rules” are not right and that one can not fight a war when the ROE prevents them from shooting back or defending themselves if the target shoots and drops the gun/rpg/etc and walk away. (very simple explanation)
There are too many things going wrong with this country at the same time. The gun issue is only one part. Divide and conquer is Obama’s plan of the day to slip other extremely detrimental actions thru while issues like Guns are being debated.
I love my country and hate the people that run it. They are all lying policy whores! I’ll do and say anything for power whores! The boat is sinking and we all run to the left, it’s sinking faster! We all run to the right, it’s sinking even faster ! We all run back to the left, it’s about to go under and we run back to the right. WHAT SHALL WE Doooo garble,gurgul,bloop,bloop. HELP,SAVE ME, look there’s a Libertarian, SAVE ME,TAKE ME WITH YOU,HELPpppp…………………….
Sending in foreigners is the best thing our domestic enemies could do. It’ll be easier to get bubba to shoot alibaba from eastern europe than jim bob from down the road.
The problem is they’ll get sergio from new yawk city and other places full of braindead “Liberal” citiots who’ll happily kill middle americans for a paycheck.
It’s already ‘fascism’ and headed toward full blown communism. The sheeple and most ‘patriots’/conservatives/truthers/paulbots/whatever will be willing slaves because they are unwilling to do what is required.
It will take many expensive suits hanging along Pennsylvania Ave. to fix this mess if it can be fixed.
Please folks, take a minute to read the treaty. I have included the webisite for that information above and a google search that has several reports regarding CIFTA. It does give information on the next page as to the countries that have signed and ratified this treaty. This really is pretty scary stuff!
But before you enter your knee jerk reactions to the current regime-at least listen to the responses of Harry Reid before you assume what he will or won’t do. After all, he is a Nevada State Senator…and that’s just not how we do things out west..
I think it is very interesting that our President is going to Montana this week-don’t you? In that context McCain recieved 49% of the vote and Obama 47%-pretty tight when you think about it.. in the Presidential election.
I find it interesting that Nevada rolled over to Blue…
We have so much to be thankful for…the Patriot Act…the Brady Bill.
We have Free trade acts with countries with known drug cartels….so that they will not produce coca leaves to produce cocaine. No tariffs on all of there agriculture crops that come in to this country. We have made farmers out of them and put our own in the Welfare/Forclosure/Unemployment/Homeless line….
We have literally put thousand of American Farmers,Canneries,Truck drivers, laborers out of work.
Schwinn Bicycles and Levis made by the Chinese and the Mexicans.
It’s delightful to watch the news every night and see the same Drug Cartels annihalating the Mexican police and military. They have so much more MONEY and GUNS to win that war! Kidnap,rape and hold hostage Americans that come to that country. Yet, we want to enter in to a treaty with the same countries we are trying to end their unsavory influence on our Nation…
If you voted last year in the Presidential election, in the spirit of the Constitution……..send letters, make phone calls, establish registered voter petitions so that your local,state and federal constituents are aware of your voice. We are the ones that put them in office, we need to hold them accountable. Letters to the editor and the facts and research to back them up. Email is available to all levels of government-use it!
Real change requires that we get up off our duffs and do something about it-let’s quit whining and hold them responsible…before this treaty gets signed and ratified. It’s up to us!
We are the keepers of the gate, it’s our duty to defend the constitution and to make sure that those we voted to hold office do just that!
ok im gonna keep this short………… if u have a 17 year old daughter in your house alone and a rapist with aids lives 1 block away from your house. and lets say there is a cop car 5 miles away and your a the supermarket for the next hour….the rapist is trying to get into her house…. which one will protect her the most? A)condom B)a phone to call the police or C) a 9mm glock? give me a reply at my email address
Obama your a dumb ass im a rancher in montana i own cattle and sheep i get 2 pay checks a year in the fall when i sell the calves and lambs my guns protect my income. If you take away guns you also take the steak off your plate where does your t bone come from? the store right? no it comes from my blood and sweat to produce it for you. you can have my guns when you can find them after your body gaurds hand in theirs oh did i mention you can have my ammo one bullet at a time coming out the end of my guns starting with my barrett 82A1.
Thomas Jefferson used the ideas of John Locke, and Sir William Blackstone and others like them as the cornerstone of the Constitution. He had said that many times. If any of you people doubt why the second amendment was included try reading some of their work. (Uh hum Mr. Realist). John Locke’s Two Treatises of Government spells it out nicely for you. Even someone as confused as you ought to be able to understand it.
We Texans are looking at seceding in order to preserve our God given rights as well as our right to defend ourselves. Our own governor has said it. Not quite what I expected this country to come to. I hate to think that I served my country under the leadership of President Reagan just to see it waste away to this. I now know what the Roman soldiers must have been thinking/feeling when Rome was about to fall. It isn’t that we hate the USA, we love Texas more and must preserve our way of life. Never thought I would live to see this day coming. God help us.
I believe in most all of you. Except for such as REALIST & CUTLASS. I didn’t read all the comments; not enough time. As a matter of opinion, Obama already has an underground and well armed military. Many of his kind have been preparing for years to “We shall overcome”. The military units have “misplaced” many weapons of every type. I have my opinion of where these weapons have been stored. Obama is filling every position of importance with people of his own kind and manner of thinking. To say that, the Black census is 15% of the U.S., is a cover up. Every major city has a black mayor, etc. Don’t fear the outside world. FEAR the inside world. What was that word he used soooo much during his campaign “RETRIBUTION”. GOD SAVE OUR NATION.
you have no freedom your goverment locks up & kills its own people if you talk out about any thing that it saids is not good for The U S A but only it can say what is good for you less the half of you vote thats how this comes about
What is everyone worried about? We lost our Republic (not Democracy) years ago. We have an ologarchy. The incompetent, overpaid, over benefited 500 plus in Washington. Now they want my gun. No way. Our Democracy is bought and paid for by the Industrial Complex Ike warned us about.
I fear from all that has been said here and other sites that I have visited, that horrible turbulent times are ahead for our Nation. God HELP US ALL. The Civil War of 1861-1865 is going to look like a walk in a rose garden compared to what is coming upon our Nation in the very near future unless somehow the madness of our government is not abated. What we are facing is has been said, it has been coming for decades. If nothing else the 1900’s will be seen by historians as the demise of the most radiently God gifted country in the history of man outside of Israel of Old Testiment times. God surely blessed this country and surly as we have as a Nation allowed our government to turn its back on God, He has as surly turned His back on us. But, the (pardon the expression) fat lady has not yet sung so there is still hope. 2Ch. 7:14 states, (if)” My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land.” Have we gone so far down the slope that there is no return? Will we not as a Nation get on our knees, renounce our sin, and call upon the Lord. If we do, as a Nation, He will surly hear. But, we will face the consequences of our past actions. God Bless the United States of America.
GREAT WEBSITE! MAY GOD PROTECT US ALL, AS ONLY HE CAN. WE ARE CONFRONTED WITH A SITUATION THAT NEEDS DIVINE INTERVENTION. SEVERAL AMERICANS CHOSE TO CHOOSE THE WORSE OF THE WORSE AT VOTING TIME AND NOW WE ARE FACED WITH AN ECONOMIC DEGRADATION! EVERYWHERE WE KEEP READING FROM PATRIOTS AT THE DIFFERENT WEBSITES AND FOX NEWS ABOUT THE DANGERS THAT WE ARE FACING. OUR DOLLAR VALUE DEVALUATES BY THE SECOND. I JUST SENT $100.00 US DOLLARS TO LONDON ENGLAND AND THE CURRENCY VALUE EQUALED TO APPROXIMATELY $57.00 POUNDS! AT THAT DESCENDING VALUE RATE, SOON, NOBODY WILL TAKE OUR MONEY. . . . . I RECEIVED AN EMAIL LAST WEEK THAT STATED THAT THIS WEEK SEVERAL AMERICAN BANKS ARE CONSIDERING THE ACCEPTANCE OF IINCORPORATING THE EURO DOLLAR SYSTEM. WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US? WE, THE PEOPLE, HAVE NOT BEEN CONSULTED AS TO WHETHER WE WANT IT OR NOT! LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, THE OBAMA TEAM ARE GETTING A LOT OF THE TARP MONEY INTO THEIR OWN POCKETS, ACCORDING TO THE FINDINGS THAT WE HEAR ON THE NEWS. WE DON’T HAVE TO GO TOO FAR, I READ THAT PELOSI’S HUSBAND WAS ONE OF THE FIRST RECIPIENTS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR HIS LUCRATIVE FOREIGN BUSINESS COMPANY. AND THIS INFORMATION WAS AGAIN CONFIRMED ON THE FOX NEWS A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. . . . ALSO,
I HAVE THE TAPE WHERE OBAMA WAS BEING INTERVIEWED AND HE ACCIDENTLY SAID”MY MUSLIM FAITH” AND THE STUPID COMMENTATOR, CORRECTED HIM BY SAYING: “YOU MEAN YOUR CHRISTIAN FAITH?”..AND OBAMA RESPONDED: “UH, YES, MY CHRISTIAN FAITH” ! ! ! WE SAW THAT THE MEDIA WAS PRO OBAMA EVEN WHILE AMERICANS WERE QUESTIONING HIS AMERICAN U.S. ‘BIRTH-CITIZENSHIP’ . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .PEOPLE CAN BECOME CITIZENS, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE BORN IN THE UNITED STATES TO BE ELIGIBLE TO BECOME A UNITED STATES PRESIDENT! AS I READ MANY OF THE COMMENTS, THE COMMENTS ARE HEARTFELT AND HOPEFULLY THAT ALL OF THIS ENERGY AND CONVICTION PLAYS INTO ACTION AT THE MOMENT OF TEST. IT TAKES COURAGE AND LOVE FOR AMERICA TO PROTECT IT. AND TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOM. SLAVERY IN ANY FORM IS HORRENDOUS!
NICE MATT!!! Is vulgarity all you know. I just finished watching the Glen Beck program from last night. He is a little kooky in how he presents his information but the man is right on in what he is saying. One thing he left out though was, IT IS TIME TO START A MOVEMENT IN OUR COUNTRY TO IMPEACH THIS MARXIST COMMUNIST AROGANT TURKEY. In the past 6 months he has done everything he can to shread our Constitution, build a subversive communist framework within our government, aid and abet’ the enemies of our nation, apoligize for us as a Nation for the indiscreations of our government when we as a Nation have done more than any other country in the world to feed and shelter the unfortunate,
socialize our free interprise system, enact law or encourage the use of international law to subjucate any effort for us to protect our rights by canceling the 2nd Amendment, defang the C.I.A. and nueter their ability to gather information on plots against our Nation, reinforce the existance of lefist communist governments in latin and south America, and, in my opinion, destroy everything our fathers, brothers, and sons have shed blood for to protect our heritage and lift up freedom around the world.
It is time to put an end to this madness and IMPEACH THIS TRAITOR FOR WHAT HE IS. Stand up America, and let your voice be known. God Bless our great Nation.
…….when we as a Nation have done more than any other country in the world to feed and shelter the unfortunate,……
Your fucking kidding, right?
The US has caused more problems and hardship around the world in the name of Freedom than any other nation has in the name of war since 1945.
History has proved that your military is incapable of winning a war and does fuck all more than destroy lives and countries. All your foreign aid policies achieve is to arm corrupt governments and insurgents, and your own corrupt government/s sit back and rake in the kick backs from it.
“Feed and shelter the unfortunate” give me a break… When you get your head out of your arse and see the world they way it actually is you’ll begin to understand why your President feels the need to apologise for your collective, arrogant arses.
Hey realist do you know the word INFRINGED means? No one is taking our guns, least of all a malcontent racist punk from Chicago. If they want to bring in foreign troops to dictate their leftist control. MAKE OUR DAY!! America has the largest armed civilian population and we will take on anyone who thinks they are going to tell us what to do. While this is all going on I am sure the US military that swears and oath to the constitution is going to be okay with all this, Our jack off government tried to get us to stop drinking too and they never stopped the losers in this country from taking every drug there is. But you leftist malcontents are going to take every gun away, what LSD trip are you nitwits on. The day Obama and his goons make their move, Newton’s Law of motion will kick in. We will end this madness going back to those commie animals who planned all this in the bowels of the kremlin in 1917 through the American jack off commies and to the malcontent nut jobs that really believe the country is behind them. All I can say is make our day, give us the excuse to revolt so we can clean up this country of commie lovers, moochers, slackers and free loaders.
ww2 ph vet 88 yrs old take my guns haha just try it my guns made it possible for u panty waist to be here now and thats ashame but it had to be done we wer soldiers not slacker
When you have a man as President that cannot show a true birth place, cannot show true records from college, has never ran any type of business except racketeering, wants us to give up our private health care so his druggie friends and lazy asses can keep ripping off the working tax payers, you have the prime mixture for destroying our country. Just why do you think they want our guns, they are afraid of us, a man without a gun to protect hinself and his family is open to thieves, murders and scandrels that can walk over us at will, I believe in self protection and no law that our Government pases will change that, if you want to get a thieves atention, shove a shotgun in his face, you have his attention, I would hate to have to fight our own Government but this has happened before in the civil war, it can happen again and this time it won’t be split between north and south, it will be the people against the tyrants, if you think our troups are having trouble in Irac, just wait until they are sent into the hills and mountains of the U.S. to find us, there will be much blood shed that our leaders will have to take responsibility for, I would not like to see this happen but will not back down from it, this is my country, my ancestors fought for it and died for it and I will die to protect it, how many of our radical leaders in congress had ancestors fight to win our freedom, if they had, they would not be so fast to destroy our country, Obamass has no respect or love for this country, he is not of this country and should not be allowed to serve his time as President, when you put a monkey in the whitehouse, you better have plenty of bananas and watermellons to feed it, I for one am tired of being pushed and its time the people pushes back, its our country, lets take it back and make it one nation under GOD WITH LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL, put IN GOD WE TRUST BACK in America, WHEN WE DO THAT, OUR COUNTRY WILL BEGIN TO PROSPER AGAIN, UPHOLD GOD AND COUNTRY, not muslem, Obamass has ties to the very people who caused 9/11 destruction, the smile on his face depics the real background he follows, ANY MAN WHO WOULD SPEAK TO FOREIGN LEADERS AND BOW TO THEM IS NOTHING LESS THAN AN IDIOT, ANY LEADER WHO APPOLOGIZES FOR WHAT AMERICA DOES IS AN IDIOT, ANY LEADER WHO DOES NOT UPHOLD THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY IS AN IDIOT, SO WE HAVE AN IDIOT IN THE WHITEHOUSE AND WITH HIS IDIOTS LIKE POLOSI, THEY WILL DESTROY OUR COUNTRY IF WE LET THEM, its time to fight back, band together and remember, its not long before election again, vote out any one who wants to destroy our country and our rights, there are more of us who love America than those who do not, we dont’t need an idiot to tell us how to live, if the people stand together, we can stop this and we must be willing to do what ever it takes to win this, Washington will do anything to win, so can we, we have one thing on our side they do not, we have right on our side and GOD BLESS AMERICA
You mean Obama wants to stop straw buyers of guns shipped to Mexico in order to stabilize a drug war that’s claimed 20,000 Mexican lives, already?
The gun lobby must, perforce be FOR murder, mayhem and the spread of illegal drugs in Mexico. Right now, you’ve got a hugely destablizing force with the drug cartels in fighting pitched battles against the rule of law and thousands of innocents ae dying. But, the selfish, myopic gun lobby can’t see past the sights of their own guns. May God pity you all.
I have been stationed all over the world and a Vietnam Veteran. After seeing how the other countries treat their own citizens – how on earth do you think they will use this information against us if there were ever a serious problem.
They need to send old farts like me back into battle. We don’t believe in “the Just Be Nice Doctrine” and would not stop with water boarding…let them loose a few heads and use that as a warning. They only understand one behavior…show them we can do the same.
To Gonzo: Although I have not seen Sarah Palin’s high school diploma, I can tell you she graduated. Many people, including her high school teachers (of whom I personally know), watched as she graduated from Wasilla High School. The Mat-Su Valley is too small a community for Ms. Palin NOT to have graduated and everyone not know. You can learn/ see this for yourself if you ask the right people. Yet, no one I know can give you a certified, vault original, birth certificate of Mr. Obama. I seem to notice that when Obama supporters reply, they say nasty things about a conservative instead of addressing the original issue. hmmmmmmmmm
It’s time for a call to action in every part of what is happening in this country. God needs to be back in front of everything we do, and we need to DO Now! Stop tolerating the crap in our schools and the bull they are feeding them daily. If you need to pull them out and stop letting the schools do this to our future. Get angry and do something.
All of us need to get off our butts. No gun control ever for
any of us. I heard Texas is the only state that still has the right to succeed(?) from the union. If need be I say we all gather there and put up a fight. Never forget 9-11 and remember the Alamo! God Bless America Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.
The larger centralization of government power gets, the smaller our civil liberties become. Is anybody really paying attention to the global police state that is being installed before our very eyes? The police look more and more like modern day soldiers, while the average citizen is looking more like concentration camp Jews; if we don’t do something about this it will be too late to do anything about it. History has an astonishing way of repeating itself……..
DISGRACE – OBOMINATION – go home. This Communist / MUSLIM , born in KENYA has no idea what a FREE Country is , and is going the route of his Socialist upbringing – to make the UNITED STATES like OLD Russia…. Or — is he planning to try a takover of this Country.. Be alert folks – he is up to some very sneaky under handed scheme… Have no doubt. The FOOL Congressmen are right along with him. Many are COMMIES – proven already. Looks like my 30 plus years as a Federal Employee were all for nothing ??? Wake up AMERICA – keep you guns… They by themselves are meaningless – and no threat to anyone…. Take them away from FREE peoples – and then you are all open to this bunch of slugs…
We have the right to bear arms for the sole purpose of stopping the very actions that are taking place on Capital Hill right now. Our forefathers, who were godly men, sought direction before writing such a document, not like the 3 a.m. underhanded shenanigans that are taking place today. We must hold on to these rights in order to protect our american heritage and God given rights. We have a sense os self preservation built in us for a reason, not given us by the federal government, but by our creator. I intend on protecting me and mine with all of the resources I have available. I am not, by far, the smartest person in the U.S., but I have seen this coming for a number of years. Being a veteran, i took an oath to protect this country from all enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC. An oath is an oath and i take it very seriously and for LIFE.
Let’s start in 2010 to kick the bums out. NO MORE INCUMBANTS….for a while…then maybe let SOME get a second term.
Power truly corrupts…and those idiots seem pretty decent the first term….work hard….however, by the second term, they’ve learned how to royally screw us to the wall…and they most certainly do!
The “government” needs to hear loud and clear, every day and in every way, that they work for us, not the other way around. Also, writing letters and voting avails to absolutely nothing. This country is so far down the tube right now, the only thing that will avail is an all out, bloody revolutionary war. If that doesn’t happen, we are gone for good.
This is just another reason why we need to impress on Congress that not only is this in violation of our 2nd amendment but also disregards the sovereignty of the United Sates.
The truth is that We ARE A REPUBLIC !!!!!!! In a Republic democracy means nothing.. The law is the law, no matter what percentage of people think God should not exist, the law says that we are a Nation, Under GOD UNDER GOD UNDER GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! So as long as the law of the Republic states that We are a people under God with certain liberties and rights the Republic stands behind the law and the law stands behind the Republic and its citizenry…
Unfortunately we have a Democracy now, and if 51% of illegal aliens and 20% of people that died six months ago (like Acorn’s tactics) say that they want a new world order, than the rest of us have to suffer… The president we have now is an illegal, unconstitutional unsurper, he is an ICBM sent by the new world order to destroy our nation from the inside, he is a trojan horse… The problem is not that the commie marxist propagande the problem is out Fat Stupid, Lazy birocratic way of life America, stop watching the boob tube and your futbal and your wwf and TV bull in general, stop eating trash at Mc donalds and start reading a book, better yet start with The Bible, that will teach you the right and wrong of things, You want to be like our fathers of the nation and constitution??? Read the books they read and speak the things they spoke. THE BIBLE, that’s the Supreme Law the ybased out laws on. With no Bible, you have no law, mans law is erronous and faulty…
Only chance you have America is return to The Bible, The Word Of God!
Reveal in these days my friends, we are coming together like never before. Gun owners and like minded thinkers are finding each other and banding together. We must all stand together and rally for it’s the man that goes it alone that is taken down and lost. These are exciting times, no other time in history have we come so close to the way or Founding Fathers must have felt. They felt the Spirit of ‘76 back in those days, well we too will fell and are felling a certain Spirit of our time!
Even tho I’m from Texas, I Just called Congressman Joe Wilson’s office, in Beaufort, South Carolina. Unfortunately, I was unable to speak with the Congressman, but I asked a gentleman in his office to relay a message from me. I asked #1, ‘what was his stance on the 2nd Ammendment, either pro or con. He said the Congressman was very PRO the ammendment and believed in our right to keep and bear arms. #2, I also told this gentleman to relay to the Congressman my deep appreciation for him stating, the other day, that Mr Hussein Obama lied to Congress. I also said he was the only person who had the cahones to say what he felt instead of cow-towing to “Our Dear Leader”.
I also found out this man, Joe Wilson, was in the US Army Reserve from ‘72-’75 and he retired as a Colonel from the SC National Guard in 2003, 31 years. He has 4 sons in the armed forces. So my point is, this guy has the balls to say what he did to Hussein Obama, then he has the balls to be the POTUS. Call his office and tell him thanks for being a good and “stand-up” American. I got his phone # off his web site, but just in case, I called his office in Beaufort SC, and the # is 843 521 2530.
We need more “stand-up” Americans working for us in Washington, instead of the fat, lazy, money hungry a– h—s that most of ‘em are, that are there now.
Like they say, “they’ll pry my weapons from my cold dead fingers”. Roger that???
USN ‘63-’70, brown water & blue water. 2 tours in-country. GO NAV.
If we all stand up ..like we will be the last man standing in a toe-to-toe fight..they will begin to take notice .gettin’ close to TIME TO STOP PLAYING
Mister Nice Guy
I am amazed at alot of the comments from those that believe this is anything but aboslute bullshit and has been for years. I do believe and stand by the oath I took 23 years ago when joining the military. Sworn to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States against all enemies FOREIGN and DOMESTIC. I do not look forward to the day they ask for or even worse try to take my guns, the same guns that my ancestors used to make this a free nation and the same guns that we have used to keep this a free nation. I think every american needs to actually read teh constitution and all of the amendments before its to late. We became a free nation by defending our rights to freedom, I have defended them for 23 years and I will defend them at home for the rest of my days.
Realist and others like you, please use the greatest invention man has made, the airplane and get the hell out of my country if you do not appreciate the freedoms we provide with our guns. And please dont think for one second that it wasnt the guns that saved our ass long ago and will be what save it again next time.
Yes another thing that I can be scared about foreigners or anybody knowing how many and what types’ of guns I own that’s just great. Yes it could happen and yes it’s scary…..BUT how many of us support our NRA or our other gun happy organizations the have lobbyists in Washington throwing money in to the “FAT CATS” of congress’s pockets???????? yes Osama Obama and a few more key players want to take away our rights and make us wear turbines and ride high mileage camels or what ever you want to think, but thank god for greed, there are more of the FAT CATS in congress then the right snatchers and that makes me feel some what safe that this will never get passed. if we as American people what to do something to help our self’s out on this issue then well lol….pay your membership dues to the NRA or what ever gun happy organization you choose because that’s what your money is used to pay for. you are essentially buying protection for your rights…..or you can watch who you vote for, research the topics that are important to you before you vote and if you voted for Obama and like owning a gun just go find some one to punch you as hard as they can in your face right in you stupid ass cock sucker because your one of the ass holes that helped put his sorry ass in office. And the fact that he is putting us even further into debt is completely being ignored by us because he is trying to do so many things at once its hard to keep track of what he’s doing and I think that’s the point keep us one step behind the whirlwind. Oh well this is just how I feel I figured I better speak up before I’m not aloud too any more lol.
ps this is a promis of things to come there will be a civil war and i will be on the front lines with my brothers and sisters giving my life for freedom and maybe we sould be the ones to cast the first stone. every other country has revolted and a new government has risen from the ashes………for better or for worse maybe its time
great another thing that I can be scared about foreigners or anybody knowing how many and what types’ of guns I own that’s just great. Yes it could happen and yes it’s scary…..BUT how many of us support our NRA or our other gun happy organizations the have lobbyists in Washington throwing money in to the “FAT CATS” of congress’s pockets???????? yes Osama Obama and a few more key players want to take away our rights and make us wear turbines and ride high mileage camels or what ever you want to think, but thank god for greed, there are more of the FAT CATS in congress then the right snatchers and that makes me feel some what safe that this will never get passed. if we as American people what to do something to help our self’s out on this issue then well lol….pay your membership dues to the NRA or what ever gun happy organization you choose because that’s what your money is used to pay for. you are essentially buying protection for your rights…..or you can watch who you vote for, research the topics that are important to you before you vote and if you voted for Obama and like owning a gun just go find some one to punch you as hard as they can in your face right in you stupid ass cock sucker because your one of the ass holes that helped put his sorry ass in office. And the fact that he is putting us even further into debt is completely being ignored by us because he is trying to do so many things at once its hard to keep track of what he’s doing and I think that’s the point keep us one step behind the whirlwind. Oh well this is just how I feel I figured I better speak up before I’m not aloud too any more lol.
AND while he may be called the President, I don’t believe anybody that has never served in the military should be called Commander-In-Chief.
(senior enlisted and senior officers had to WORK their way up the chain of command–and this guy starts at the top–I guess I need to get in the ‘community organizer’ business and get some radical friends)
Hi, Retired Navy here. I do agree with not selling out to a foreign gov, or any world gov at the expence of our constituion. If they want to come and get my guns, I’ll give them to them an ounce at a time. no I am not a terroist just a 76 year old American who wants MY America back. not the socalist Gov the country its turning into.
What suckers gun owners are. Whats the big deal about how many guns you own and who knows it. Guns kill. There are certain individuals out there right now who are going too kill your loved one’s soon. The problem is we dont know who they are. When they get killed by a gun just make sure you understand you fought for it.
Well Anthony Wassil. you must not be from this country, you must be from some where other then this country and want to know personal information about me and my family and my fellow countrymen’s’ family. Before you start shooting your mouth off and make your self sound like an ignorant uninformed ass, do your research on what you talking about. Guns don’t kill people they are tools. What’s next on the list hammers, kitchen knifes, oh lol here’s one; how about nail guns. do you think that forcing ourselves to disarm or being forcibly disarmed is going to do any thing other then put law biting citizens in danger, crack open a history book you dullard. Look up what tool was used and when it was used to build the country that I assume you and I both live in, and the ensured the freedoms that we both enjoy today (so far). I’ll give you a hint try looking around April 1775. If you have a problem with what happened at that point in American history, well hell your right then “god save the king” hope you’re a catholic……….like some of your roll models (castro,idi amin, qaddafi, stalin,kim-jong-il, or who could forget you favorite an avid supporter of gun control, Hitler). All my guns are registered having to register your guns has been around for a long time its making my information public to others foreign and domestic, that’s the issue. Its an invasion of privacy okay, knowing that it would be easier for the people that want to “kill our loved ones soon” to find us and do so more efficiently, and then they will take my guns and come to your house next or first because they will know that there aren’t any guns at your house, so if you are ok with that and want to earn supporters for this issue then before you post a rebuttal to my or any one else’s posts, you should post a copy of last years tax return on here your ssi number, how much you made, dependents, address and all. do you feel comfortable with that……….if you don’t do this before you make some smart ass uneducated reply then we all will know that you are a hypocrite and your words have no meaning, and we will all think that you are a potential terrorist. you sir are one of the blind mindless sheep that will wined up skipping and singing wail on your way to have a serial id number branded in you big dumb ass. oh and what will you protect your loved ones with when some one invades your house and has a knife against your neck and makes you watch as his buddy lovingly rapes you wife and baby girl. don’t be blind mr.wassil take the initiative to research the issue and the repercussions should it get passed, and have the foresight to see that it will not stop here with this issue, learn from others mistakes so you can help not to repeat them.
P.S. oh yeah I forgot and I might be mistaken here but isn’t wassil a Jewish name????? seems like we kind of helped you guys out some back in the 40’s and we weren’t using our peckers to do it with ether and why couldn’t you help your self’s out……….ummm interesting isn’t it think about that wail you enjoy your kosher ham sandwich!!!!!! and this isn’t a racist comment I am of German/ Norwegian background, and I happen to be an American born father of two half black daughters so I am the last person you want to be calling a racist bigot or supremacist I’m just an American who happens to believe in the rights and freedoms that my fore fathers died to earn for me and you as well countless other in almost every country in the world. I have family that served in almost every war we have ever had for our self’s and for others!!!!
True American’s Destiny: A TACTICAL RETREAT: Isaiah 18: 1-7. This is America’s destiny. The King James translation is the clearest to understand.
Tactical retreat from what? It will be the catching up of all who have His Spirit—BUT “if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” Romans 8:9. Meaning, we must have Christ’s Spirit to be His AND to be saved by Him. There is no other name under Heaven whereby we must be saved but Jesus Christ. Acts 4:12, paraphrased.
Our founding documents are inspired by GOD. Geographically, America was held back by GOD so it would be utilized in the Great End Time harvest of souls, a most important campaign of the Lord God Almighty.
A tactical retreat is again, the catching up of His church, which are those in whom His Spirit dwells. America the great is inspired by GOD. She is great because she honors the GREAT I AM. We must rush to the defense of her founding documents and if that fails, to stand and fight for the freedoms our founding fathers stood and fought for. To defend her from usurpers is our Duty.
To preach the Gospel of the GOD who made her great is also our Duty. Her calling is to have a people who WILL bring a present unto the LORD of HOSTS. That present is the souls won to the Kingdom of GOD by the preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
See Isaiah in your Bible. These people, who are terrible from their beginning HITHERTO, shall bring a present unto the LORD of HOSTS.
What’s left behind (or more accurately, WHO) shall be eaten by the beasts of the field and by the birds of the air.
To those who win all in the war, a tactical retreat is WELCOME. COME LORD JESUS! http://www.MarkMyWordsPublishing.com
All I can say is that those who voted Barack Obama into office were adequately warned before they voted. We can no longer sit back and let the outspoken minority think for those who are too ignorant and/or apathetic to do so for themselves. They need to be educated and brought out to defend what this country was founded on and for. If atheists don’t want prayer, let them sit back and enjoy the mement of silence. If they don’t like In God We Trust, let them go somewhere that has a different currency. If they don’t like our pledege of allegience, let them make their home and take allegience somewhere else.I am a veteran. I took an oath to defend my country and my constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I did not say that I relieved myself of that oath when I got out of the service.I pray that the day does not come that we as Americans have to take up arms against our countrymen, but if it comes to that, I will do what I have to do.Our country was not made great by succumbing to the ill willed perverts, or by the anti-democracy zealots, or by a band of leaders who are so self serving that they are willing to sell us and the future of their own families to the highest bidder. I do agree with Barack Obama in one regard. It is time for a change. However, I believe the REAL change we need is to get back to the priorities of God, Country, Duty and Honor. When our government sends the troops (ours or anybody elses) to take away our freedom, we will have come full circle to 1776, and have to start all over again. I don’t think we can expect the same success this time.
When honest citizens are disarmed criminals will love it. By the way, our politicians and Obama’s Czars are some of the worst criminals in what’s left of America. Hold the Fort !
REALIST: Here’s why you’re a LIAR: “…a WELL-REGULATED MILITIA….”, RIGHT ?? YOU say it’s the National Guard, right ? AND, that it’s CLEAR that it’s the National Guard, right ??
IF THE NATIONAL GUARD IS THE “MILITIA” CITED IN THE 2ND, THEN WHY DIDN’T THE GOVERNMENT TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM “WE THE PEOPLE” WHEN THE NATIONAL GUARD ( the “Well-Regulated Militia” YOU JUST ADMITTED TO ) WAS FORMED ??
YOU SAID IT…. THE NATIONAL GUARD….
BUT SOMEHOW, AFTER THAT “well-regulated militia” was formed, WE THE PEOPLE got to keep & BEAR our arms ??
WHY, REALIST ??
BECAUSE that “well-regulated militia” IS NOT THE NATIONAL GUARD…
NOW WHO’S THE IDIOT ??
WHY DIDN’T THEY TAKE OUR GUNS THEN, IDIOT ??
EVERYBODY ON THIS LIST NEEDS TO RUB EVERY STINKING NOSE IN THIS FACT WHENEVER THIS “WELL-REGULATED MILITIA” TRAIN OF THOUGHT IS BROUGHT INTO A CONVERSATION….
Wow, lot’s of great input. I just hope all peple can “stick to their guns” becasue the government will involve the news media to NOT show true Americans sticking up for themselves and defending thier Nation but will show the citizens revolting against the Government and being taken into custody, prison camps, shot at and being downtrodden to make it look like they have no chance against the Governemnt. The news will distort the true facts. The Government will do every trick possible to make the people with guns feel that they will be “eliminated” and have no chance to the point where all but the very “warped” will continue to fight. And, the WILL make an example of this….blood will be shed. A horrible scare tactic. So, when will the internet be censored? To keep the truth from it’s people. God Bless FOX news for bringing out the truth. We all need to support them as there is really no other news station that is not controlled by the Governemnt.
One last personal example on a small scale of what recently happened to me. On Christmas Eve, my son & his family were visinting from another State along with my other “grown sons” that came over for vising & celebration. At about midnight, we were all in my fully enclosed and fenced back yard sitting in our hot tub on the back deck ehan all of a sudden 3 lights appereared over the back fence about 90 feet away. It was pitch black and we yelled, “who is there”? No answer. We had Christmas carols playing on the hot tub’s stereo and could not hear or make out who it was. All of a sudden the lights all came over the fence and started running to ward us. My family & kids freaked out, screaming, yelling, panic set in. I stood up and yelled “you are on private property, I am the owner of this place and to get outta here immediately”. They didn’t stop and were soon at the edge of the hot tub with bright lights in our face, saying nothing. We yelled, splashed water at the direction of the lights. My daughet-in-law screamed, I think I see a gun and they are going to kill us! Within seconds two of the lights were up on the back deck, still too dark to see who it was and there were inside lights around the hot tub making it difficult for us to see out in the dark. All of a sudden, there were red lazer beams pointed on my sons head, my daughter-in-laws chest and another one waving in the steam from the hot tub. I told my son I’m getting out to go get help and/or try to distract these people as I think we are going to get killed in here. As soon as I got to the stairs and up over the edge I was shot! Luckily it was a tazer and I went to the frozen deck. After I came to, I saw it was the cops! they said they got a nose complaint from some neighbor and couldn’t find the front of our house, so they came in this way! Are you FKM? Get this, they lied on the police report and said I was attacking them, charged me with Felony harrassment and hauled me to jail on Christmas Eve at 1am! Charges were dropped, but I was brutally attacked on my own property and illegally tresspassed upon and civils rights attacked. Court case is pending. But, what I am telling you is that this is happening all over everywhere! Police & Government brutalizing people. My attorney said I was within my right to shoot at them, however….it was probably good since they would have gone into attack mode and most likely shot everyone dead! So, I will now always be ready. But, if you are not armed….this will happen and you will be hauled away by the Goverment & the people it assigns. So, how esle was I supposed to defend & protect myself? Call the cops? They were already there!!!!!!
I” solemnly swear to protect and defend the constitution and flag of the united states of america against all enemies , foreign or domestic so help me god ” every soldier has taken this oath
Sure hope all those that voted this guy in are real happy now…suppose any are having second thoughts?? Let it be known that I surely didn’t vote for him.You can bet that he will cause as much damage to the U.S. in his tenure than imaginable.We see fighting in the streets from the comfort of our armchairs on tv…I fear that what we see there will be the U.S. in days to come……we will be given no options other than fight or flight (give in)…
What we need, among other things, is to have all conservatives to stop subscribing to newspapers and to stop watching the major liberal controlled TV stations (except maybe sports). Perhaps when they go broke, we can replace them with more Fox News type media. After all, we don’t really need newspapers much… we have the internet, at least for now.
Yes, the internet is available free, yet… until Obama-nator starts taxing us up the ying-yang to use it; oh, sorry, not a tax, but a value-added fee…..
It occurs to me that if the goverment gets a list of everyone who has guns, ammo, etc. They will also know exactly who does not. Possibly those folks would be sitting ducks….?
They keep sending our young men and women to fight in wars that are not of our making. So many of them getting killed or wounded
Looking at this from another angle…if OB gets a list of all gun owners….then he (they) have a (basic) list of all who do NOT have guns…..sitting ducks?
Well 11 mounth’s of obama and our attention is on health ins. did good on takeing our attention off the war. and what happened to the troops that were tryed for killing the enamie? they did a good job for us. My last comander and chief told me to be vigelant. i have been and muslim gathering places are more active latley. by the way i dont reconize oboma as a comander and chief. no birth certificate and once a muslim always a muslim. Gen Patton read his enamie’s bible. read the karan and learn about ours. SPEAK ENGLISH OR GET OUT we won’t stop you. and order some ammo off line and get one the good list. then when the commie bastards or anyone come to disarm you, you will know you have been sold out and its time to stand and fight. My Milatary outh still stand’s with me.
IS LIFE SO DEAR SO SWEET, AS TO BE PURCHASED AT THE PRICE OF CHAINS AND SLAVERY? FORBID IT ALMIGHTY GOD! I know not course others may take , but as for me , give me liberty or give me DEATH!
May 4th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
This is another attempt at a gun grab. We must not let international treaties, or the UN subvert our constitution.
May 5th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Nothing our grand U.S. government does should surprise anyone with one ounce of knowledge about the Republican and the Democrat Parties’ historic efforts to erase the U.S. Constitution. Both of our Bush Presidents spat on that document– Bush I with his NEW WORLD ORDER program and Bush II with his “it’s just a gd piece of paper.” Bush II worked, unconstitutionally, to put us into the North American Union (step two of the New World Order). Obama, with his latest gun treaty (the same one signed by Bush II), continues the Socialistic One World march.
Beginning with Franklin D. Roosevelt’s United Nations, every Democrat President has joined the efforts to eliminate our constitutional Republic by converting it to Socialism/Communism. Woodrow Wilson , earlier, worked for his dream of One World Government, just as did Karl Marx, Abe Lincoln’s great admirer, who was hired by a big New York newspaper to prepare the North for the War against the Bible believing Southerners.
The Republicans and the Democrats are the same party. Those elected wear a variety of masks to signify some Party difference. A few Republicans are costumed to look like true blue Americans now that the clock approaches the witching hour. Where were they when this nation could have been saved from its plunge into deep Socialism (Communism by another name)?
Most Americans are too brain-washed by centuries of Marxist propaganda to recognize the value of a U.S. Constitution which guaranteed us a Republic form of government, rather than a Democracy. A Republic was ours until Dishonest Abe and his Marxists-Radical Republicans created that first Income Tax (a plank in the Communist platform) and attacked the sovereign nation, the Confederate States of America. The North, under the tutelage of the Republican Party’s Marxists, stomped into submission the only part of the nation dedicated to the Constitution and to the Republic. How dare the South secede to avoid paying those humongous taxes for Northern Corporations’ wanted “improvements?”
The Lincoln cultists have persisted in drenching each young generation of Americans with Marxist lies. The Lincolnites, even now, are continually pitting the black race against the white race by employing cleverly twisted half-truths. The Lincoln cultists strive to eliminate all memory that the North’s Slave Merchants, before looking south, first filled up the North with weeping, kidnapped black slaves.
The North held on to its slaves until white immigrants arrived in such numbers as to fill the factory work forces. Then Northern slave owners sold most of their slaves to the South to pick the cotton the North needed for its garment factories. The North’s slave merchants grew filthy rich by continuing their slave trade practices not only by dumping slaves in the South, but in the rest of the world, also.
Two new world nations held on to their slaves and slave buying long after Southerners was forced into poverty by the Lincoln Marxist army of European mercenaries and “Reconstructed” by the Republicans controlling the Union. Rather than scorning these two slave-holding nations, the Republicans in power, did business with them. (So much for slavery being the cause of the War!)
The Confederate flag never flew over a single slave ship; the flag that flew over every American slave ship was that of the United States of America.
It is an abomination that left-wingers continue to attack the Confederate flag as the flag of American black slavery when the REAL FLAG OF SLAVERY IS THE STARS AND STRIPES—and before that– any or all of the flags of Muslim nations.
Abe Lincoln did not emancipate a single American slave. Abe Lincoln was for white superiority. If this is a surprise to you, you have only read lies throughout your life.
Abe Lincoln was a complete dictator who spat on the U.S. Constitution when he imprisoned thousands of Northerners who dared say and/or write that the South had the Constitutional right to secede, as did all U.S. states. Abe moved Heaven to Hell to avoid having Americans remember that the New England states themselves almost seceded during the War of 1812—ceasing their secession efforts only when the Brits signed the treaty ending that war. Lincoln certainly did not want his Northerners to remember that every state’s individual Constitution emphasized the state’s own sovereignty above that of the Union’s.
Our brain-washed PHD historians are, largely, responsible for the mess this nation is wallowing in today. They have been the chief propagandists for Socialism. They have brought a great nation to its knees by helping to destroy our Republic by converting it into a Democracy and by feeding hate-filled lies to blacks and creating white “liberal/left wingers.” One must assume that all the honors, awards, and monetary prizes the Lincoln cult historians have won by touting the glories of the lying Abe Lincoln and his Marxist controlled Republican Party will make up to the historians’ great grand kids for the mess they will inherit.
One must assume that all the honors, awards, and monetary prizes the Lincoln cult historians have won by touting the glories of the lying Abe Lincoln and his Marxist-controlled Republican Party will make up to the historians’ great grand kids for the mess they will inherit and all the freedoms they will lose. Taken away will be those freedoms and liberties now guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution and emphasized in the Bill of Rights.
The Right to Bear Arms is only one of the freedoms designated for erasure by the traitors now controlling our government.
Treason prospers due to the Constitutional ignorance inculcated in our young by government control of education and by those dedicated to passing on the lies of Socialism.
May 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
They won’t need to grab our guns. Have you tried to purchase ammo lately?
May 7th, 2009 at 7:57 am
This business of foreign nations knowing the owners of firearms ties in with the census. They want to know the GPS coordinates of our front door within 40′. That’s forty feet and they want it in 90 days from an early May date. Are they planning to come for our guns in the middle of the night using foreign troops who have coordinates on our front door? This must stop!!! Maybe we need to recall Obama and his socialist, totalitarian mob!!! Conspiracy theory anyone???
May 8th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Where is Obama going to stop? The more I see and hear him convinces me is not an American and should not hole the office of President. On the other hand, I would hate to see Joe Biden, Nancey Pelosi or Barney Frank in his place. God Bless America and what it used to stand for.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:54 am
send the foreign bastards over, I’m ready, locked and loaded–I see a blue beany and I will put a 30 cal right between his runnin lights. I’m a former US Marine and I will not submit to any foreign or domestic enemy.
May 10th, 2009 at 11:53 am
EVERYONE should watch the movie ‘Red Dawn’ again. While it featured Soviet troops, it did have a Mexican commander. If this is what it will take, ALL gunowners need to take heed and not give up our guns. America has never been violated on our own soil (sans 9/11) with troops walking on it, but if they do, we need to blow them all away with whatever we have! Yes, ammo is hard to find, and may be expensive when you do find it, but we need to stock up. We knew what would happen if Obama won with that leftist-dominated Congress, but WE are responsible for the outcome. Too many of us were STUPID enough to believe all the B.S. of “change” while most of us warned that “change” can be for the worse (and it is). 2A was written in the Constitution because the founders KNEW what EVIL LEADERS in this country could do so they wanted to make sure we could fight our government if need be. Let’s have the courage to stand for what the founders stood for. GOD BLESS AMERICA despite our stupidity!
May 11th, 2009 at 7:01 am
Open letter to BO
Obama, you do not deserve the title of President because all you do is shame the nation, leave our guns alone. That should be clear even for you. Withdraw your request for the anti-gun treaty. If Mexico citizens want to live in fear of their government and violent criminals, that is their choice. We citizens of the US do not choose the course of tyranny that you seem intent on taking. Withdraw all anti-gun/gun-control legislation you are advocating. Restore our right to self protection.
Although you obviously have no understanding or respect for our Constitution, most citizens do. The Second Amendment is the most important statement in the constitution; read Blackstone if you doubt me.
This amendment RECOGNIZES…not grants…our right as human beings to defend ourselves agains all criminals and tyrannts. It recognizes our rights to KEEP and to BEAR arms.
We stood by while you experimented with gun control in 1994. We will no longer stand quietly while the Liberals try and dismantle our Constitution.
Let us defend ourselves and our families and our country. You can assist us by concentrating on terrorists and pirates abroad…and by not deprecating the US every chance you get. You may be popular in Europe and abroad elsewhere, but you are elected only by American citizens.
May 11th, 2009 at 9:34 am
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May 11th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
I’ve got plenty of shotgun shells and ammo ready for any foreign turban headed chicken shit who wants to invade Texas and will blow his sorry ass to hell where he belongs. Oh, and they’re all coated in pigs blood so the only view of 72 virgins the bastard will have is of the devil’s virgins waiting to pork him in the poop shoot!!
May 11th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Clark Ammerman, you are not alone, brother. USMC 1967-71. RVN 68/69
This jug-eared Chicago hustler, Hussein Obama, this racist marxist illegal Kenyan alien posing as an American citizen will not make a four year term. Rather, he will be in jail awaiting trial or serving the
He has committed so many brazen acts of Anti-American treason by failing to uphold his oath to defend and protect the Constitution that he will be behind bars before this term is done, or we will all be fighting his brother muslims in the streets.
In the meantime, we should buy our guns at gunshows and stockpile ammo as it becomes available. If our outlaw government is going to open the gates to international islamofacists, it will be us who must stop them.
Don’t forget: B.R.A.S.S.
May 12th, 2009 at 12:18 am
Fix bayonets! , Ready on the right!
May 12th, 2009 at 8:06 am
This administration will have us learn “the Internationale” next. Wake up America and see what they are doing and dismantling.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Here is a story about a different treaty that is also after our right to Keep and Bear Arms: http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={96190840-EC3B-4A5E-80EE-9719625B62A5}
May 13th, 2009 at 1:10 am
Ammerman, I am your back. Oer the hill!!!
May 13th, 2009 at 2:28 am
WOW! Talk about wet dreams seeing the light of day. All you rambo wannabe’s need to read ALL OF THE second ammendment again, not just the part that gets you all warm and fuzzy. Either that or join the militia (Nat. Guard) that it plainly is discussing. So before you grab your guns from the boogey man with the dark skin, better get you facts straight…BTW “Garfy”(nice) they were CUBAN officers in the movie “Red Dawn”, you know the COMMUNIST country to the south of us? As is usual with your type, it seems you are remembering the facts however you need to so that your fantasy is complete.
May 13th, 2009 at 7:56 am
So far the Supreme Court says differently than you Realist. Thank God for that. It is amazing that some folks just do not realize that the 2nd Amendment is the only thing that stands in way of the U.S. becoming a completely socialist, or dictatorial country. The 2nd amendment is the shoulders that the entire constitution rests upon. This fact is undeniable. I’ll keep my guns as the 2ND was intended to keep us safe from our own government plain and simple. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. This fact has been demonstrated throughout history repeatedly. The people that we have elected are no different than many of the thugs and dictators of the past. Give them a chance and they will show their true beliefs.
May 13th, 2009 at 8:58 am
WOW! Free speech, God and Country, right to bear arms, sons and daughters
why would you folks wanna argue about this, my gun, my land, my life, I woulda gave it and still will…for even that realist to continue to live free in america. Remember all that you see and hear…Some gave all, All gave some. And this continues for the patriotic americans that speak english…
brother Marines I am with you always…69-73 Semper Fi.
Check me out if you dare…and finally where the hell do you think the idea
for Rambo came from and by the way what did the dude say about the
Wolverines hmmm? Tread softly as you may not tread on the Flag of the U.S.
May 13th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Realist: Interesting that the constitution was drafted about a hundred years before the national guard was ever considered.
May 13th, 2009 at 10:19 am
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May 13th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
out of my cold dead hands……
May 13th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Buy all the guns and ammo you can. You may have to pay alot for them, but it is a wise and possibly life saving investment! I wish the bleeding hearts could look back in time to see how much things have changed, slowly, over the years. This has all been happening for years, but only in small doses so the general public doesn’t catch wind of it and freak out. Well, luckily the power of the internet has opened alot of peoples eyes up and it allows us “common folk” to see what is really happening. Everything going on today has went way beyond any “conspiracy theory” that the Left loves to call it. It is real. They want your guns. They want your rights. They want your freedom. They want a New World Order. Well, it will never happen in my life! I won’t allow it. I will fight until the death of me to defend my rights, freedom and way of life for me and my children! GOD BLESS AMERICA and GOD DAMN OBAMA!!!!
May 14th, 2009 at 5:06 am
Realist, are you for real? Way back when…the PEOPLE were the Militia!!! You need a name change like the intelligent folks need change from your messiah, his grand lowless; obomba.
May 14th, 2009 at 5:21 am
Hey, Realist….
The National Guard wasn’t established until the latter part of the nineteenth century so there is no way it was factored into the militia component of the Second Amendment. The militia refers to the standing body of adult male citizens who are armed as the result of the individual right granted by God to self and common defense. You liberals play fast and loose with historical facts…..always.
May 14th, 2009 at 8:23 am
“Honor Few—-Fear None”
Pat D> USMC (ret)
..as Ammerman said above “I’ve gotcha back…lets go oer’ the hill”
Perilous times ahead I’m thinking
May 14th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Is this the ‘Change’ everyone was thinking about? It certainly was NOT my idea of ‘Change’. All this ‘Pelosi’ (my new acronym for B.S.) is getting
me downright depressed and probably alot of people out there. Thank God
for the internet so we can voice OUR opinions. We all need to be vigilant
regarding all this so called ‘Change’. “God,…I pray,….Help America”
May 14th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Everything the Obamessiah does is presented in terms that sound good, but we need to keep in mind the saying that there are always two reasons for everything. One that we are told and the real reason. Thank you Mr. Dobbs!
May 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I am a Patriot of these United States. My brother and myself are just waiting for a leader,perferably, one who has bled for this country– to call!
“Call to Arms! The democratic-socialist legislation is coming!”
My son SSGT Timothy P. Davis, KIA Afghanistan 2/20/09 & I will not go down without a fight to save our nation from destruction! Amen!
Lastly, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, (indivisible; that is debateable-currently) with liberty and justice for all.
May 14th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
You can have my guns when you pry them from my cold dead hands.
May 14th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
You all seem so SURPRISED, I have news for all of you, I started getting prepared 20 years ago, about 15,000 rnds and adding dai;y. Send them SOB’s my way I atill practice at 500 yards+!
May 14th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
So, where does this “standing body” meet? How are you organized? Do you have a command structure that would keep this “militia” from becoming just another mob or are you guys planning to figure it out when the “Red Dawn” scenario happens? Those are the guiding principals our Guard and Reserve forces (20 years/retired here) are based on. I just wish that all this energy was channeled into something that actually could produce an effective defense. Individuals with $30k of buried weapons/arms cache aren’t going to slow a professional military force down one iota. Neither will your standard vigilante style group. Meanwhile, we use the 2A as an excuse to buy weapons that are just used on ourselves, our friends and our family.
May 14th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Realist
Take your idiot philosophy and go to DC to see your socialist anti-gun friends and stay off the computer with garbage. Check your facts before you put people down. I agree with cold dead hands and as retired military member, I will still defend the constitution.
May 14th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Realist,
Take your no nothing statement, go to DC and hug your socialist friends, but whatever you do, check your facts and stop putting people down. I agree with cold dead hans and as a retired military man, I will still defend the constitution.
May 14th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Why are “we the people” always the bad guys and the foreign a-holes get to do business as usual. If our grand government would allow law enforcement to do their job ,and the justice system would put the bad guys away for a real sentence. True american gun owners are not allowing their arms to be sold on the black market. How do these terrorists get military weapons and explosives, not down at Bob’s Gun and Tackle. Tell the government to wake up!
May 15th, 2009 at 6:23 am
bayonets fixed, Ready on the left, give the signal!
May 15th, 2009 at 10:30 am
They have got to get our guns before they can put One World Government in place. Most Congressmen and Senators are afraid to buck the Hidden Government and will go along with the scheme.
Don’t matter what party you belong to, they’ve both sold us down the river and it’s time we all wake-up and let Washington know we’re not rollin’ over.
In the meantime support NRA, GOA and SAF.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:05 am
does anyone know what the treaty actually says? this biased raving may be needed, but how about the facts?
How to control the Texas gun dealer who seems to be the current focus of much of the debate and maybe the source of many of the illicit guns?
What happended to law and order?
May 15th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
TWO ARMS
May 15th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
anything that the obaminator does with guns is going to hurt us all, there are enough gun laws and with each one that is added crime goes up!
May 15th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
What the hell is going on with our country?!?! We are now living in the United Socialist States of America. Our freedoms are being taken away from us every single day. I proudly cling to my guns and my Bible and all of those freaks that would laugh at me for that, can move to Europe or any other &$*(-Hole country in this world. Here is a good statement from Thomas Jefferson for you all: “THOSE WHO HAMMER THEIR GUNS INTO PLOWS WILL PLOW FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT” We so easily forget history. What usually happens to civilians shortly after their weapons are taken from them??? Also, do you really think that we would have the same Constitution if our forefathers knew what was happening to our country now? No way! It would be much more specific on our God-Given American right to own one. You know… I own many weapons at home. I own them because 1) It’s my God-given American right, 2) To protect my family if need be, 3) I like target practice and it is fun to shoot them, etc…. I don’t sit at home at night cleaning my weapons and I am not a paranoid freak that constantly worries about “bad-guys” coming over to kill me and my family, but I could not live with myself if I didn’t have a weapon and someone came to my house with a gun and killed my family (It happens all of the time). Here is another good statement to live by: If I die, I die…That is a fact of life, but If I die for a reason that could of been prevented….THAT is a problem. All of these Socialist freaks, like the man who claims to be the current American President…the same freaks who hate the United States and want to change everything that we are (Or rather who we were) and where we came from, need to take their family out of the United States. They can move anywhere else in the world and then they will realize how good we really are. We are “definitely” not perfect…of course, but compared to the rest of the world and also every single country the world has ever had….we are by far the best country the earth has ever experienced. We have our issues and have had our issues, but I am glad I am an American. One last thing…Isn’t that wierd that the man who claims to be President of the USA is named: Barack Saddam Hussein Osama….Whoops, sorry…Freudian Slip. I really meant Barack Hussein Obama. The terrorists that we have been fighting must be laughing their butts off on the fact that we (Not I) elected a man that has that name. GOD-BLESS the True Red-Blooded, Gun-carrying, Bible-carrying, etc… Americans that are out there. One thing though…the biggest problem in America right now is not the “left-wing”, communist, cowards out there. It is the true Americans out there that don’t stand up and speak out. We have to stand up for what we believe in and this pathetic international treaty needs to go away. Lastly, this won’t happen, but if all goes to hell in this world and world society collapses, I will be just happy with my Bible & Guns, knowledge of agriculture, fishing, hunting, etc… I will laugh my butt off at those Left wingers as they spazz out and not know what to do. I guess then we will have to give them a hand and help them out. My family and I, and the good Americans will be living just fine. Like I said…that won’t happen, but it is a funny thought. Take care and stand up against what is wrong and hold your head up high.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Pelosi has done it again, every third step she sticks her foot in her mouth.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
I have always been a very positive person; no matter who was in the white house. Im actually very concerned now about our country. I am not a predjudice person and have never been; but I am concerned now with what i read and what i hear. He could be white, yellow, black or purple it doesnt matter. I fear for me and my family. The end sure feels
like it is just around the corner. Am I alone?
May 15th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT IF YOU LOOK HARD AT THOSE COUNTRIES THAT MAKE UP THE ‘INTERNATIONAL TREATY MEMBERS’, THEY ARE GENERALLY COUNTRIES THAT HAVE GOVERNMENTS THAT HAVE THEIR PEOPLE TOTALLY UNDER THEIR THUMBS. THOSE SAME GOVERNMENTS ARE INCENSED THAT WE ARE FREE, AND STILL HAVE AT LEAST A LITTLE SAY IN HOW OUR GOVERNMENT IS RUN. THEY WOULD JUST ‘LOVE’ TO SEE US BE SLAVES LIKE THEIR OWN CITIZENS! BETTER TO DIE ON YOUR FEET THAN TO LIVE ON YOUR KNEES! SEMPER FI!
May 16th, 2009 at 10:45 am
This is just another step in Obama’s march to becoming not the President but the Dictator of the United States. He campaignes daily on the television, assisted by his loving biased News Media. It is a daily Soap Opera of his Bull Shit, to over throw the wishs and livelyhood of the average Citizen. He is without a doubt TREASONUS , and we the people should start persuring our Senators and Congress to impeach him as soon as possible. But then, when you have his second great back up to contend with, i. e. Polosi, Reed, and Biden, one woders what would really be best. So, most likely the better way to illiminate this problem is litterly to vote out the present Congress and Senate, and get his ass in the next Presidential election. The bad part of this is just how much CAN this ASSHOLE damage our Nation in the mean time? And for you Simper Fi guys, I’m retired Air Force With a hell of a lot of time in VN, I am armed, intend to stay armed and very able to use such if needed.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:00 am
semper fi to all marines.i am willing ready and able to do what i have to do to protect my family and my country.
May 17th, 2009 at 7:19 am
The efforts by the democrat party, and their current leader, to subvert our voting rights (ACORN abuses, efforts to get illegal aliens to vote, efforts to diminish the military vote, etc.) tax us to death (anything we have that they consider a “benefit” is fair game) and subvert our right to self-protection (look at the unchecked presence of gangs in the US, and the degree of virtually unchecked violent crime, the urban criminal class breeding grounds supported by our money) against an increasingly violent world the left has created, only affirms my conviction that the only way out for us is one that employs the same methods our forefathers did against King George. Ladies and gentlemen, that IS WHY we have the Second Amendment.
May 17th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Wow, There are some left wing people out there.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
What a pile of dog s*#t! We just endured a two-term President who nearly destroyed the country, and you are blasting Obama??? If you pathetic paranoids would turn off FoxNews and try reading history, you might really understand who the international enemy is. The second amendment dogma is continually used to inflame one-issue idiots to support the fascists’ stranglehold on our military and industrial base. Eisenhower warned of the growing might of what he coined as the Miltary-Industrial Complex. We chose to ignore his warning, and we will continue to be the pawns for their exponential expansion.
Both George Bushes belong to the world-wide Tri-Lateral Commission and its U.S. offspring, the Carlyle Group. All of the major wars during the 20th Century were fomented by the Tri-Lateral Commission, with principals like Britain’s Rothschild, Germany’s Krupp, and our very own Bush conspiring to increase their wealth and power by killing off the emerging lower class on the battlefields and cities of Europe.
Another Bush, Geo W’s grandfather, was a U.S. Senator doing business with the Nazis, until Congress, reacting to the bombing of Pearl Harbor, made it illegal to trade with our declared enemies! The Bush Dynasty, and another Tri-Lateralist, Dick Cheney, have tricked a lot of dumbass flag-wavers into fighting and dying for the Bush cause. Follow the dollar – it will take you to oil!
The right-wing is focusing on the present Administration to remove the limelight from the last Administration. Their “spin” is the usual “projection” tactics of blaming the left, liberals, Democrats, socialism, etc (pick one), for their own failures. For example, they always warn not to vote Democrat, because they are “tax and spend” advocates. The reality is the opposite. Republican Administrations spend more taxpayers money, but they do it by increasing the deficit and the national debt. Bush doubled the national debt during his eight years, more than all previous Administrations combined, including the previous record holder, Reagan.
And, if you think crime and loss of individual rights hasn’t expanded under Republican Administrations, think again!
May 17th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Hooray for Joan Hough words!
May 17th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Ya’ll know that Uncle Sambo is probably monitoring this site and we will all be arrested!
May 17th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
UNITED STATES Need a new name. How about “NORTH CUBA” or “VENEZUELA NORTH”?
OR PERHAPS “GRAND MEXICO”?
This follows the almost immediately after Obama’s administration attempted to destroy re-loadable brass and sell it only as scrap.
BTW the government would be selling the scrap brass for one third the price it would get, if intact.
The US government needs revenue. YET is willing to make one third to one fifth of what it could selling the surplus brass.
What’s up with that?
Wasted revenue is one thing. Want to see something that costs a boat load of dollars to implement and does absolutely nothing for this country in any way, shape, or form? (except remove the US Constitution from the scene)
AND NOW HERE’S YOUR FUTURE AS A “SUBJECT”. NOT AS A “CITIZEN”.
The treaty has the name of “CIFTA”.
Doesn’t sound so bad? Kind of like “NAFTA”? What could be possibly bad about that?
Obama came back from Mexico and urged the immediate ratification of this treaty by congress. This is underway now.
Obama stated during his campaign that he would not be for gun control legislation. He also quickly retracted Eric Holter’s statement, when Holter screwed up and gave away “the plan” by saying he would be seeking another assault weapons ban.
Holter is a rank amateur. He talks too much, and evidently Obama hadn’t shared the plan with him, before he gave that news conference.
Here is how Obama intends to do it:
This treaty does things that could never be passed as legislation in this country.
a copy of the treaty:
http://www.oas.org/juridico/English/treaties/a-63.html
This treaty requires the registration of all guns, and the Licensing of all gun owners, and all manufacturers of ALL guns and ammunition, even individual home re loaders.
To comply with this treaty, penalties will have to be established for failure to register your guns. Two year jail terms have been suggested for failure to register, and ten year terms for manufacturing without the required license.
Of course the penalties could be much higher, say ten and twenty years. Jail terms don’t have to be set by legislation. Jail terms can be set by regulation. No congressman needs to lose and election by voting on them, he’s just ratifying a treaty.
It requires the NAMES and ADDRESSES of ALL gun owners to be shared among the signing countries.
This means that Hugo Chavez and Raul Castro will know, who you are, where you live, and how many guns you own.
It also means that our dear Hugo Chavez, or Castro can extradite you to his non-corrupt country simply by requesting it. If you read it carefully, you can be extradited to countries the United States have NO extradition treaties with.
All that has to happen is for a gun to be stolen and wind up in another country by any means, and you are off to jail in Venezuela.
Of course none of this information will never reach the hands of any criminal elements because there is no corruption in any South American country.
BTW you can expect the leftist media will be completely silent about this because
this is an “end around” and negates the Second Amendment…… by way of a treaty
excerpts from the treaty:
INTER-AMERICAN CONVENTION AGAINST THE ILLICIT MANUFACTURING OF AND TRAFFICKING IN FIREARMS, AMMUNITION, EXPLOSIVES, AND OTHER RELATED MATERIALS
THE STATES PARTIES,
AWARE of the urgent need to prevent, combat, and eradicate the illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials, due to the harmful effects of these activities on the security of each state and the region as a whole, endangering the well-being of peoples, their social and economic development, and the
For the purposes of this Convention, the following definitions shall apply:
1. “Illicit manufacturing”: the manufacture or assembly of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials:
a. from components or parts illicitly trafficked; or
b. without a license from a competent governmental authority of the State Party where the manufacture or assembly takes place; or
4. “Ammunition”: the complete round or its components, including cartridge cases, primers, propellant powder, bullets, or projectiles that are used in any firearm.
Article IV
Legislative Measures
1. States Parties that have not yet done so shall adopt the necessary legislative or other measures to establish as criminal offenses under their domestic law the illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials.
Article V
Jurisdiction
1. Each State Party shall adopt such measures as may be necessary to establish its jurisdiction over the offenses it has established in accordance with this Convention
Article VII
Confiscation or Forfeiture
1. States Parties undertake to confiscate or forfeit firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials that have been illicitly manufactured or trafficked
Article XIII
Exchange of Information
1. States Parties shall exchange among themselves, in conformity with their respective domestic laws and applicable treaties, relevant information on matters such as:
a. authorized producers, dealers, importers, exporters, and, whenever possible, carriers of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials;
States Parties shall provide to and share with each other, as appropriate, relevant scientific and technological information useful to law enforcement, so as to enhance one another’s ability
Article XIX
Extradition
1. This article shall apply to the offenses referred to in Article IV of this Convention.
2. Each of the offenses to which this article applies shall be deemed to be included as an extraditable offense in any extradition treaty in force between or among the States Parties. The States Parties undertake to include such offenses as extraditable offenses in every extradition treaty to be concluded between or among them.
3. If a State Party that makes extradition conditional on the existence of a treaty receives a request for extradition from another State Party with which it does not have an extradition treaty, it may consider this Convention as the legal basis for extradition with respect to any offense to which this article applies.
4. States Parties that do not make extradition conditional on the existence of a treaty shall recognize offenses to which this article applies as extraditable offenses between themselves.
May 17th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Since when does the federal Government have a right to enter into a international treaty that, on it’s face, is in direct cnflict with the constitution of the United States? I would think that any clauses in that treaty would be null and void as the constitution is the supreme law of the land and can only be changed through a constitutional convention.
Further, the second ammendment interpretation as recognition of private citizens absolute right to keep and bear arms was affirmed by the supreme court this past year.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I see a great deal of paranoia out there. but just because you THINK they are out to get your guns, doesn’t mean they are NOT..
I, too, believe that the second ammendment was put there to keep us safe from the possible tyranny of our OWN government as well asfrom other threats..
I, for one, have stocked up on all the ammo I can find. As Charlton Heston once stated: “From my cold, dead hands….”
May 17th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Get us out of the U.N.! Get our elected officials out of our private affairs!
Is there any morality left in anyone? We are being taken over by the world elite and their money is allowing it.
We buy the cheaper products that is produced out of our country own
country because we have to! Little left produced here. Corporate
elite and the world bankers with all their greed have followed what Satan has been leading!
The only reason the elite hasn’t accomplished the complete take over is our second amendment and those that will go down fighting.
But remember this, you might be fighting your own neighbor and or family because they might have that blue helmet on thinking they are fighting
for a good cause. Educate those to follow God and God only, only then shall we be free from Satan’s deciples!
May 18th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Ball bats are next!!
May 18th, 2009 at 6:58 am
I’m sure all the gang bangers, thugs, criminal, and drug lords will be first in line to register all their weapons…..
May 18th, 2009 at 7:20 am
I think, that over the years, we, the American puplic, have become so passive that we have lost the will to stand up for our beliefs. But we must remember, we have the power to change things through our vote and the polls. The American public put Obama in office and now we are getting what we deserve. If we want to change that, then encourage your neighbors, friends and familiy members to get off their dead hind ends and go stand in line at the polls and vote. Spend the time to check out the voting records of the Congressman and Senators you put into office and see if they stand for what you do. If not, then don’t vote for them. We have allow our Constitition to be ammended to the point that it not longer represents what out forefathers intended it to be. We have allow our country to be over run with illegals and there doesn’t seem to be a mind set in Washington to put an end to it. This is really sad. I am not opposed to people coming here from other countries, but it should be done legally.
So, if you do not want this gun treaty rattified, call you Representatives tell them so.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:18 am
All I can say (as a naturalized american) is that I am saddened by the
fact that native americans, at least according to last elections, did not
want to wake up and smell the coffee on time and went ahead and
made the mistake to vote for these clowns that are distroying, or at
least trying to, everything this country has fought for and stands for.
These people (in government) should be tried and sentenced to life
in prison, to say the least, for doing this to their own country. (now…
is it their country?…, I don’t know anymore, but they sure act like it wasn’t!)
May 18th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
The only thing liberals fear is the power of the VOTE. We can take back America if we stick together.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Well I have said it all along, America, it is time to stand up and to take our country back. It is time to start impeachment prodeedings against our incumbent congressional officials, who have been ripping us the American taxpayers off, whe have sat around for the past 9 years and done notheing except to steal from us. Perhaps it is time to have term limits on congressional officials, it is time to take them off the federal payroll and put them on a state payroll, that will put them back in touch with the people they were sent to Washington to represent. There should be no retirement for them, after all the job of congressmen was never intended to be a career. That is just for starters. Think about it America, remember the revolutionary war and why our forfathers fought for our freedoms. Remember no taxation without representation. Well today we have taxation, but we have no representation.
May 19th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Realist,
Read Heller vs DC. The Supreme Court is in disagreement with your arguments.
Everyone Else,
Call your representatives and make sure they know your thoughts!
May 19th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Thank for a great site that consolidates some of the current abuses of power by our government. It seems most people in America don’t have a clue about the limits placed on our the federal government by our Constitution.
Keep up the good work and vigilance!
May 19th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
In 18th century parlance, the militia was the citizenry. And again in 18th century parlance, the phrase “well regulated” meant well supplied and equipped, not “well regulated” as in subject to a dizzying array of pointless rules governing the cosmetic features of a rifle, for instance (AWB). Hence, the 2nd Amendment continues with “the right of the people to keep and bear arms”, because the preceding statement about the militia is meaningless if the people are infringed upon in their right to bear arms.
Even aside from that, the Second Amendment, and indeed the entirety of the Bill of Rights, does not *give* anyone rights. These amendments exist as an enumeration of the rights that all human beings have by the simple virtue of being alive, and their inclusion in the Constitution is to obligate the government to respect and defend those rights.
Never allow a politician or crusading activist of any stripe convince you that your most basic rights are subject to some ephemeral interpretation of the Constitution, for that is the chicanery of semantics.
May 19th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
I can only feel sorry for Realist and Cutlass ! Realist you need to come out of fantasy land and into reality for awhile and Cutlass you need to watch Fox news more often ! You both are so gullible !!! Have either of you ever heard the saying “When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns!” Or the teachings of an ex Communist leader “If you take away the guns from the public they can’t fight back” (Not sure if those were the exact words but it ends with the same results !) If you look at all the federal and state laws ,existing and recently enacted as of this year(1 state in particular Ohio which I reside in ) you will see that we are as close to Communism as can be with out calling it that . Sure we can own a gun in ,(for now) but with all the existing legislation over guns the only arms we can bare is when we role up our sleeves !
May 19th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
No Carolyn the end is not near but things are going to get a lot worse we’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg! I wonder how Obutma plans to control the wildlife when no one can afford to buy ammunition to hunt or can own a gun?
May 19th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
The reason the USA DOES NOT GET INVADED IS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY GUNS OR AMMO EACH CITIZEN HAS ,,,WHY TELL THEM
May 20th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
I got a 150 gr ballistic tip for any one that tries to take my guns , they are slowly taking our country away from us
May 20th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Hi to all,
I’ll stick with my archery. I never cared for guns. Too expensive and noisy. I think the fear of suddenly having a shaft of wood sticking into your body is a lot more scary than that of being shot. Bows are less expensive, more stealthy and personal and one can make his own equipment if need be from what nature provides.
Another advantage is that in archery a much higher skill level is necessary to be effective. Anyone can drop an Elk or an Elephant with a big enough cannon but with an arrow it becomes less certain, a more even match, a bit more of a challenge.
Oh my opinions voiced here are largely the result of my service in ‘Nam in ‘67 and ‘68 and ‘69 and during my time in law enforcement.
My only fear in guns is that we may become like some countries in the Middle East where guys carry AK’s everywhere they go as a matter of fact. That would scare the shit out of me. Those who want to own full automatic weapons should, as a matter of responsibility, register them. They are too damned dangerous. Very little skill is required to do lots of damage.
JPS
May 20th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
The day that i just hand over my guns to some foriegn military or police in my own country is never going to happen. They might pry it from my dead cold hands, but that is the only way they are going ot get it.
To give it to or have it taken by force from my own country men would be even more disgraceful.
W.W. Buster Hummel
U.S. A. F. 1967-1974
U.S. B.P. 1977 – 2003
U.S.A. 1948 – ????
May 20th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
It is ridiculous that we were warned prior to this past election, about this guy. And yet there are enough idiots in this country who still voted him in! Read your Bibles, we all have been warned that the anti-Christ will run this country and that will bring the end. HELLO!! I was born and raised Right-Wing Republican, I AM PROUD OF THAT! My grandfather owns a well-known Gun Factory, he served this country in WWII, he has fought many battles in his life both here and abroad. It is sad that we are allowing these pigs to ruin everything that he, thousands of veterans, and gun companies have literally and metaphorically killed themselves to give us. Shouldn’t we all feel ashamed of that?! We all should pray that this president and his successors don’t stay very long, or we’d better kiss our asses good-bye!!!!
May 20th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
I’m ex-Navy, member of the NRA and armed to the hilt. I’m a patriot like my late father and will NOT become a slave of the left socialist movement. They can kiss my fat, hairy ass. I hope the idiots that voted Obama in are happy now. Maybe we can get his sorry ass out of Washington in a few years, hopefully before he ruins our wonderful country…
May 21st, 2009 at 7:52 am
Ronnie,
I’m ex-Navy, member of the NRA and armed to the hilt. I’m a patriot like my living father and I disapprove of Obama’s position on gun control. Obama won’t have a chance to ruin our wonderful country because George HW beat him to it. Obama’s election was simply a public backlash against the corrupt and criminal Republican Administration that preceeded him, an administration that violated many more of our freedoms than simply the second amendment. Until the Republican Party cleans up it’s act, there will be many more Obama’s to come.
May 21st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
America in 2016 II: Disarmament?…
Here’s a mouthful: The Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives and other Related Items.
Politicos get turned on by long titles such as that one which refers to a……
May 21st, 2009 at 10:56 pm
To JPS – on machine guns, they aren’t registered as a matter of responsibility, but as a matter of law. Since 1968, that was the last amnesty to get them registered. Do criminals have them? You betcha, they also have drugs, in case you have been sleeping through that one, too. Honest folks? At a Federal penalty of 10 years or $250K, what do you think? Most of us haven’t got either to spare!
And take mine from me? Sorry, not today, and not tomorrow, or the tomorrow after that, either. Don’t even think about it.
As much as I hope it never happens in my lifetime, I am ready and willing to defend my rights as enumerated by some pretty intelligent folks 200+ years ago. And as much as I feel sorry for your ignorance of the truth, I am willing to defend your rights to think as you do.
Archery is fine, but you might as well wear your arrows somewhere dark, they aren’t going to help you against even an untrained person with a gun. Haven’t seen a broadhead yet that does 2800 fps, or only drops 2″ at 200 yards.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:59 am
I will happily give up my last gun when it is removed from my bloody, dead, cold fingers. This government is scared of only one thing–We The People. That is the reason the government must take our guns away from us. Pretty simple.
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:01 am
I will happily give up my last gun when it is removed from my bloody, dead, cold fingers. This government is scared of only one thing–We The People. That is the reason the government must take our guns away from us. Pretty simple.
May 22nd, 2009 at 5:38 am
Realist
Thats what the Brits said about the colonist when they took on the most powerful military in the world and won. Thats what Johnson said about the little guys in their black pajamas and we all know who won that one. DC does not have the will to win, as soon as a few men drop DC will wave the white flag of surrender. The liberals are in control, that works in our favor they don’t have what it takes to win except when it comes to spending money, then we might loose.
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:34 pm
I’ll give up my guns and my rights when the constitution is no longer in effect.
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
With my guns I am a citizen, without my guns I will be a subject….if I get to live.
I have been labled a “right-wing” extremist! I am a vet, I believe in my Constitution and riights, I am “anti” illegal immigration, I do have a bible, and am registerered Independent….but it seems B.O. and administration can put whatever lable they want on us. Oh well!
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May 24th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Cutlass-You are right about Bush. That is our problem. There hasn’t been a two party system in years. They speak differently, but govern the same. Bush was however only exceeding the speed limit by 10mph. Obama is increasing it by 100mph.
So what is your thought, sit back and let our country go to hell, because Bush was a bad president?
Are you seriously denying that Obama’s policies are extremely Socialistic. Can you point to one Socialist nation in the world that is doing very well, whose citizens are happy and productive? You can’t, because there are none.
Socialism, fascism, Communism have all been around since virtually the start of societies. THEY DON’T WORK. They imprison there own people, they destroy liberty and freedom and ideas, they take away incentive and think that by slave labor they can produce quality goods–NO WAY.
Obama is spending 100 times more in his first hundred days in office than bush spent in his entire two term administration AND THE ADMNISTRATIONS OF EVERY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM. That is not to defend Bush, only to point out that Obama makes Bush look like a pussy in the ways of leading this country down a slippery slope into the abyss of a totalitarian government.
I have read the Federalist papers which really give one a better idea of the INTENT of the Founders of our Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights. They would absolutely flip over in their graves to see what we have become and where we are headed.
Extremism occurs on both the left and right in this country. But it is the LEFT whose policies have had the most impact on the evils that currently exist. Outcome based education, policies and teachings in our schools from kindergarten to graduate school that has become more propaganda than teaching. Coddling of criminals, legalized abortion by mandate from a liberal-leftist supreme court, government entitlements never envisioned by our Founding Fathers. I could go on and on but I won’t. You couldn’t be convinced anyway, because you are just as dogmatic as you claim most of the writers herein are.
Most of the people who are responding negatively to what is occurring in our present government, are doing so out of genuine concern for where we are headed.
A country HAS NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND spent its way out of a recession. No country has EVER successfully printed money and successfully solved the problems in its economy.
President Obama’s policies are threatening the very foundations of this government. The fear is, that even before he can be voted out of office, the damage will have been too severe for any recovery to take effect for years. if ever.
You seem to be the typical “liberal elitist” who thinks that anyone who is a patriot, disagrees with abortion, or homosexual marriage, is an idiot. Well sir/madam, idiots come in many sizes, shapes, colors and ideologies. Take a good look in the mirror.
Take a good look at your current president and quit listening to the flowery speeches he presents from his speech writers on teleprompters and start WATCHING what he is doing. If you come to the conclusion that his policies are good for this country, then consider yourself an IDIOT just as you think the writers herein are.
May 24th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Hey Realist, I hope I catch your sorry liberal ass strolling down my road.People like you are the enemy!
May 24th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Good job Realist, The Commander in the Movie Red Dawn was Cuban. It does not matter though, because if your skin color is not white and you have a background other than Anglo-Saxon you are S.O.L. They have been like since they landed on Plymouth Rock. We are suppose to believe that all men are created equal? You took Indian Lands and had blacks as slaves then took Texas,New Mexico,Utah,Nevada, Arizona,California,and Colorado away from our neighbors to the South. We still live on barren wastelands in deserts and other land that the Anglo-Saxons did not want.
Your excuse is always, “That wasnt us and that was along time ago.”
We have a Black President and I know that is a hard pill to swallow, but deal with it! What about Bush- Cheney? Why are you not up in arms asking for an investigation on all their wrong doings… and You know what they have done to our country….This is not a Rambo-Red Dawn movie. We are not going to have our guns taken away and no “Terrorist” or Mexican is going to jump off a plane and land in Texas, to invade the Lone Star State. The reality is that as a proud American Indian, the Anglo-Saxon race, is a most suprising one. We were made aware that your character (some not all) still displays so much pusillanimity. Our enemy are the rich, because the rich,in their own interrest ,either control the government directly or control the laws by which government operates.
May 24th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
WE NEED TO GET HUSSIAN OBOMA OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE NEXT ELECTION OR WE WILL BE SORRY FOR THE REST OF OUR LIFE.AND OUR KIDS AND GRAND KIDS WILL PAY THE PRICE.WE NEED TO PROTECT THE 2ND. AMMENDMENT BUT THAT IS NOT ALL.WE STAND TO LOOSE A LOT MORE OF OUR FREEDOMS.WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE WILL BE AT RISK IF HE CONTINUES TO SWAY CONGRESS IN HIS FAVOR???HE SPOKE OF CHANGE WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.THE CHANGE HE SPOKE OF WAS NOT PEOPLE AS MANY THOUGHT.HE HAS PUT ALL OF BILL CLINTONS PEOPLE IN POSITIONS IN GOVERNMENT.THE SAME ONES THAT HELPED SEND ALL OF OUR JOBS TO CHINA AND MEXICO.PLEASE WAKE UP!!!!
May 24th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
We are fast approaching the point at which our military and civil police are going to be required to make their choice known…
To uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States” including the 2nd Amend.
or
“To support that anti-American policies of some in this administration if these or similair laws are passed.
Generals and Chiefs, state your position: 80,000,000 gun owners are waiting.
May 24th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
MY FAMILY IS TAKING VACATION IN SEPTEMBER O9, 9.12.09 WE WILL STANDING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE WHITE HOUSE WITH PROOER PERMITTING ALREADY IN PLACE, OUR SIGNS WILL REFLECT OUR MESSAGE, WE HOPE THEY WILL BE ONE MILLION, NINETY-NINE THOUSAND, NINE HUNDRED NINETY- NINE BRAVE ENOUGH TO BE THERE WITH US.
THERE WERE APPX. THIS MANY TO WELCOME THIS MARXIST/SOCIALIST INTO THE WHITEHOUSE, CAN WE HAVE JUST AS MANY BRAVE ENOUGH TO ASK HIM TO GET OUT, RESIGN OR BE IMPEACHED AND REMOVED.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO HE IS OR WHERE HE CAME FROM, BUT THERE IS NO GOOD IN HIM, HIS AGENDA IS TOTALLY UN-AMERICAN.
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May 25th, 2009 at 9:26 am
The really scary thing is I prefer Obama over that idiot Biden and Queen Nancy scares the shit out of me. I will never be constipated with these three in power.
As Charlton Heston once said “they can have my guns when they pry them from my cold dead hands” and not before!
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May 26th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Think IMPEACHMENT NOW – before it’s too late. There’s more than enough hard facts to warrant it!
All the Anti-Constitution, 1st, 2nd, etc Amendment Rights, Anti-Capitalism power grabs, Anti-Individual Freedom, Anti-Common Sense “Obama Administration Actions”, SO FAR. Not to mention the Monitary grabs, Fraud and Corruption.
Wake-Up America !!!
May 26th, 2009 at 6:45 am
tee brown – you protest incorrectly.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:31 am
“Ditto” on what Sheldon says.
Obama might be a bit smarter than idiot Biden and delerious Nancy who scares the shit out of me. If she really wants to go green, she needs to be taking a broom of all natural materials instead of the Air Force jet.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Nothing but the Lord God can straighten out this mess Obama and his liberals have us in.
It will not be long either before God says enough is enough and bam, we believers are gone.
May 26th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Can you say TOTAL CONTROL of all civil rights as we know them. By nibbling at the edges of liberty and recieving little or no push back from the American people, Obama desires and hunger for more control will only grow.
It is true what OBAMA stands for – OneBigAssMistakeAmerica and the sooner Obama, Joe, Nancy and the rest of the Idiot Angels move on the sooner we can return to getting this country back on course.
Hide your kitchen knives and baseball bats- they will be next to be declared as lethal weapons.
May 26th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
We need to get this congress and the leader of our country out of their office.They not only are destroying everything our countrymen and women have fought for,now they want to take away our rights and private business.How much more damage will Obama and this congress cause us.
May 26th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Impeachment is the only thing left to save America.Can this Congress be
impeached?I wish….
May 26th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
if we north americans don’t stand for something in our own best interests,
we will fall for anything!
May 26th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Realist………..
You should sign on as…. “Statist”
You should read the Second Amendment a few times more yourself. Then consider the “REAL intent of the Framers of the “About to be run through the shredder Document.”
It was intended to allow the people to defend themselves against a tyranical government who are clearly acting toward the interest of the State rather then those of the citizens of the “Republic for which it stands.”
So to be direct with you. You are showing your true intentions as a troller on this blog and I will stand up to you quickly and point out your “statist view.” It’s very evident to anyone who considers themselves a Constitutionalist that you are merely a plant and a sham trying to align yourself with this conservative group. Forget it, Take two weeks off, then quit. Now go read a few more chapters of Saul Alinski. Your not yet clever enough to escape our scrutiny.
May 26th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
This is another attempt to make this a socialist country and obama want to be the dictator and looks like hes doing a good job of it. the next election we have to vote out the demacrats they are money hungry thieves and power hungry
May 26th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
i also say fix bayonets and fight like hell!!!!! come get mine if you have the b—-
May 27th, 2009 at 4:11 am
No guns? Lead the way BO. Disarm your Secret Service. The safety of your ass is not any more valuable than anyone else’s.
If we can have our 2nd Amendment Constitutional rights taken away by international treaty then that can happen to all of our rights.
Obama is moving toward his new world order with frightening swiftness. Within his first term look at see other international treaties that will invalidate our Constitution. He is in the process of selling out America to world-wide totalitarianism in his quest for total world-wide power.
Obama must be impeached and the first, and perhaps only hope to stop him is to elect all Republican Congressmen in 2010, and that may not even be enough.
Let’s not forget that we are one heartbeat away from a liberal Supreme Court. His newest pick has said that as a wise Latina woman she can make better decisions than a white male because of her background.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Our second amendment guarentees that no Government shall over throw the people of the USA. That includes the United States Government. Everyone in the USA either gun advocates or other people should be up in arms that our own goverment wants to control our lives. This is why we fought for freedom from England and other countries who wanted to control us. Maybe all government employees should take a course in US History. PS GOD BLESS AMERICA
May 27th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Has anyone here actually read this? By this I am refering to the actual document in which Obama has urged passage upon? I;m assuming no due to the fact that every response here is refering to a socialistic pseudo-military regime taking over and our guns being haulled away en masse. Fact: Registration of fire arms makes it easier for detection thereof – Myth: Registration of fire arms means I can’t hunt, or defend my home ever again. Get with the program people, this is not a 1984 movement, this is smart politics. Guns will always be around, the government won’t spend the 13,000,000,000 neccessary to take away all legalized and registered firearms; They sure as hell will not take away 5 times that amount (that is 65,000,000,000 for those of you who didn’t graduate) thats not including labor gentlemen. Be realistic, the second ammendment will always be around, whether it be strict reading or a supreme court filled with justices practicing judicial activism, IT WON’T LEAVE!!!
But having 30 other nations respect us more sure as hell won’t hurt our situation, if anyone has ever watched a network other than fox, you’ll see that our country is not the most popular! If we can do anthing to counteract the hatred of america, that’s a GOOD thing. Cyberbalkanization is going to spread that america is taking a firm stance against domestic violence like wildfire. Be realistic, this is a good idea: We keep our guns, and look good in front of the rest of the world.
May 27th, 2009 at 10:29 am
This administration and the Democratic Congress is on a plan to destroy our liberties and freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution. I hope all you out these that voted for these socialists are happy with your “Change Now”!
May 27th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
First of all, Ryan Smith, your an Idiot! Go ask Australia how it worked out for them. “F” the 30 other nations and what they think! We’re talking about our founding fathers and what OUR COUNTRY was built on! Keep your head burried in the sand and we’ll call you if we need you. Or you can just wait until it’s all over and then thank us!
I own every popular Caliber weapon made. 9mm, .40 S&W, .45ACP, .223, 7.62X39, .308, etc…..
I will build my Ammo reserve by taking what the fallen foreign troops leave behind. .223 will feed through any .223 caliber weapon, same goes for 9mm, .45ACP, 7.62X39, etc………. As they drop them we will pick them up, load them, and center punch the next foreign asswipe in line.
Everyone needs to realize if we don’t make a stand against Obama and his circle of ass kissers this could damage America.
May 27th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Thank you, Joan Hough. What an inspiration you are. You speak for many and for the liberals, too, if they only knew the truth. I certainly enjoyed your response. Thanks, again … Sam
May 28th, 2009 at 12:13 am
I heard something about or second amendment rights in the constitution and how its there to protect the people from an opressive government. I also heard that no democracy has lasted longer than 200 years.
Perhaps WE THE PEOPLE need to take control of our government?
Its sad that this once great country is quickly falling into a second class country, and if it continues, we will be a third world nation.
Manufacturing made America great after WW2 and there was almost nothing that America did not make. It made America a wealthy nation.
Then we trained all the other countries how to manufacturer everything better than we could and they had cheaper labor.
Today China is quickly becoming the not only the most piowerful nation, but the wealthiest too. Just wait until their aircraft carriers are operational. We have only ourselves and our politicians to thank.
Stop dismanteling America’s weath generator, MANUFACTURING! Give it a break and some relief from the EPA, CARBON TAXES, ETC and take the heavy burden from around its neck and let it get well again.
It will take years if everything went very well, but we know its not going well.
As General Motors goes, so goes America!
May 28th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Keep um. Bury them, one day soon you will need them.
May 28th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Its good to see there are alot of true AMERICANS GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU, and I feel sorry for the ones that aren’t.
May 28th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
i have a pistol in my truck 45 year never have fire shot at any one you might say why do you carry it there away something we don’t no about just like rigth now. who no what next. i will not use that gun for nothing but my self defend or to help other who would need to defend. we must lift the lord up in all we do he his our only help. gov. well kill us–b c alexander
May 28th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
[...] Gun owners and constitutional rights alert Sorry if this has already been posted. I got this in an email and wanted to share it. GUN OWNERS AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS ALERT. Even Lou Dobb’s agrees! You have to watch this short video clip on our illustrious government once again trying to out flank us and blatantly violate the Constitution! UNBELIEVABLE!!! http://wearechangecoloradosprings.org/blog/?p=594 [...]
May 29th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Ryan Smith… better check up on what Britain, Australia and Canada have spent to make their nations gun-free and to rid their society of evil… and it didn’t work. Their governments are confused (no surprise there) about why it didn’t work, and what to do now… (Britain is now looking at taking away knives, and anything that can be used as a “weapon”)… they might take and try our Constitution, it seems we don’t have much use for it anymore… or at least for the next few years, anyway. VOTE, PEOPLE!! And get all of your like-minded people out there to vote… take your family, friends, old people… whoever, and VOTE NEXT TIME AND GET THESE LIBERAL DUMB-A*** OUT OF OFFICE… SHORT OF A FULL-BLOWN REVOLUTION, IT IS THE ONLY WAY WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS!!!
God Bless. Joe Lamb, U.S. Army, RVN, DAV
May 29th, 2009 at 9:26 am
One more … Mr. Smith, I have gone back several times to reread your post, looking for your point and logic. After repeated readings I can only come to one conclusion, Mr. Reno is right. You need a HEAVY dose of reality, truth and exposure to other human beings whose beliefs don’t sound like a recording of you… Good luck with that!
May 29th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
The more Obama and his libtard brothers try to ruin this country, the bigger the backlash we can expect when the last of his hippie sheep followers finally see him for what he really is. That day is fast approaching and he’s going to wish he had something to protect himself with.
May 29th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
patriots ; the constitution is a document that is on a piece of paper BUT it came from the hearts and minds of men that understood the way that people should live and run a nation . remember our forefathers came from Europe which is a failed system always was always will be , you can not make a silk purse out of a sows ear no mater how you work with it .
the government in Washington is destroying the constitution , as we write to each other via the internet . be of a strong heart , they and us have no idea the amount of blood of patriots and tyrants that will drench the soil of America if we can not get rid of the elitist that are in the house of representative , senate and the presidentsy they have only contempt for us .
let us follow the states that have rejected the rule of the federal government that is out side of their very limited power , like Montana , Utah , Texas , Tennessee , and soon to be others .
get hold of your governors they are empowered by the people of their states . it is a very powerful office , so back them with your voice , of the fact your tired of the feds walking rough shod over him/her and our sovereign state . we will back them to get the legislation done to inform the feds they have no power over us and reject their unconstitutional legislation that is selling us down the road of socialism through treaties with other nation that we have bailed out of so many problems that socialism brought on them .
remember the federal government is buying (as in $$$$ ) the hearts and minds of the unthinking masses and they must be stopped . if all else fails them let us pick up our arms as a nation and deal with the traitors .
Larry D. Avery
May 30th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
To all concerned, Our country has gone to h—- in a handbasket!!! Everyone and I mean Everyone should send this email and all the comments to the Whitehouse first and then to you elected officials in your state . Complaining in emails does no good except to spread the truth, which is very important but, taking the above action lets Our Federal officials and our state officials hear directly from citizens. It will take a little of your time to find the email addresses of these officials but, it will be well worth it. If you don’t want to email, write a letter to all these officials.
May 31st, 2009 at 4:42 am
GUNS DON’T KILL PEOPLE,,,,PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE…DON’T BLAME IT ON OUR GUNS..BLAME IT ON THE IDIOTS THAT CAN’T FIGHT WITH THERE HANDS HAVE TO GO THE COWARDLY AND CHICKENSHIT WAY AND USE GUNS…BY ALL MEANS IF TOWEL HEADS OR OR FOREIGN INVADES OUR COUNTRY EXPECT TO CATCH SOME BMG .50 CAL TRACERS AND INCEN. TIPS FLYING AT A DEADLY PACE AND ACCURATELY.OBAMA IS JUST A PUPPET FOR HILLARY TO RUN THE SHOW.HOW MANY PRESIDENTS TAKE A TELEPROMPTER WHEREVER THEY GO?? HE NEEDS A SPEAK AND SPELL….
May 31st, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Look people, the Government does not want to empower the individual. They are afraid of the individual. They have admitted they are afraid of their veterans. The Government is against the people and not for them. It has been this way since WWI and that idiot President, Wilson. The police do not want us owning guns. I cannot figure that out. How many people are gunned down in their own homes while still on the 911 line while the operator is having a problem believing them and telling them to calm down during a life and death circumstance. All people who are sane and not a felon should be armed. PERIOD.
May 31st, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Bring it on, I’m ready.
May 31st, 2009 at 7:24 pm
People, we can point the finger at past and present. We have to start focusing
on the real problem.
Senator Ron Paul has started a movement and many in the Senate have
joined him in requiring an audit on the Federal Reserve. It is neither Federal
nor has any Reserve. It is private and has never been audited. After it is
audited the move will be to have Congress Resume their job of creating
money for America and not some private bankers with no oversight. It has
been going on since 1913 under Pres. Woodrow Wilson’s signature.
When others create your money, you are already in trouble. It has been
used to buy America, Americans at all levels of leadership, American Businesses
and Banks. Find out who the Central Bankers are. You will know who is in
control of the future.
May 31st, 2009 at 7:41 pm
If you want to know who is moving America to the Future go to
http://www.4rie.com. The Federal Reserve is private. Neither Federal
nor does it have a Reserve. It controls the economy, value of the
dollar and creates same. Congress needs to resume control of the
Central Bank and creating money for America. We don’t need to be
paying interest on America’s own Money.
May 31st, 2009 at 9:27 pm
“Those who want to own full automatic weapons should, as a matter of responsibility, register them.”
Statements like this show me one of two things – first option is it was written by a plant (not a gun owner) or by someone who is CLUELESS about the laws of our nation. Full autos (real assualt weapons) have been HIGHLY regulated in the US since 1934! (via the NFA of ‘34)
This treaty is just one more large step into converting the US into just another thrid-world nation. Sorry to say, I think His Self-Appointed Royal Obamanation has successfully done that to us with all his drunken sailor spending from which we will NOT be able to recover from. Heck, China has told us to stop spending and Pravda is publishing articles about us giving away our freedom :without a whimper” so why are Americans so stupid? Lazy is probably the only answer!!!
….cold dead fingers……not when the Constitution is dead (it effecitvely is already) or any other lame pansy “tail” statement……..cold dead fingers.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:12 am
I am thinking of this as General Chesty Puller, USMC, might have looked at it: Foreign Troops will be given the names and addresses of gun owners in the United States. How many foreign troops will there be? How many gun owners in the United States? First of all the foreign troops will be outnumbered, probably out gunned and I know out shot as we’re better marksmen than they. So as Chesty Puller might have said in a situation such as this. Let them have our names, then we won’t have to go looking for them; they will come to us. By attrition, they will run out of foreign soldiers first if only one foreign soldier is killed going to every 10th gun owners house.
June 1st, 2009 at 9:04 am
History says that Politicians have always been terrified by weapons that might be used to end their reign ands control of society. Making firearms illegal is the first step in total control. The police are very good at taking reports but are seldom around when needed. They are also not responsible for “individual” safety, but only for the good of the public. If you disagree with the above please try reading history again.
June 1st, 2009 at 11:33 am
THE MAKE BELIEVE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO BACK OFF THIS ISSUE, I FOUGHT
TO KEEP AMERICA FREE, AND I’LL CONTINUE TO DO SO.THE PEOPLE OF THE
UNITED STATES WILL NOT LET THIS BUNCH OF LOOSERS TAKE CONTROL OF
US AMERICANS.
June 1st, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Any liberal needs to realize that registration of guns will only lead to further regulations. Polititions know that registration will not help decrease crime because criminals normally do not use lawfully bought guns. If they do use them their normally stolen. It will only stop the citizens from getting guns and lawful citizens rarely commit crimes. Criminals will still get their guns illegally so registration will not decrease crime. So all it does it let foreign troops know what american citizens have guns and what types. Why do we want them to know? I do not care if other countries don’t like us because we have more freedom than they do. Honestly what type of excuse is that, register our guns so other countries can like us, seriously………..
June 1st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
This is just like him to try and control the public in another way. We as american’s need to take control of all departments of goverment by voting every one out and starting over. This means everyone. From our Governors to the President. And hope the we can get some good people in those offices to work for us and not their pockets. So to sume it all up AMEN to all above and those to come. they might get my name but thats it.well maybe my life for a good cause.
June 1st, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Dear Prez,
It is NOT going to be approved! You can not do this to U. S. Citizens and expect to get away with it. We can still vote! And will hold you to account if you attempt to foist this dastardly “treaty” upon us.
June 1st, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Apparently this video has raised some eyebrows. As it should. But I see there is as much confusion as there are postings. Ryan Smith… If you read the treaty as you said you did, then I am assuming that all that legal mumbo-jumbo just completely confused you, as it was intended. If your father gave you his hunting rifle that was handed down from his father etc., and any of them failed to notify the “Authorities” of the transfer, then you are in possesion of an illegal weapon, or explosive or incendiary device. This treaty, as many of our recent laws, are written in ways that can pretty much make anyone a criminal.
Yes, I feel confused, and violated like many other Americans. This country is being assaulted from all sides, “Taxes”,”Outsourcing”, “Illegal Imigration”, “The Patriot Act”, “NAFTA”, “Gun Control”: The list is very long, and it started a long time ago. Some say the civil War, some say when the Federal Reserve was created. If you read the Federalist Papers, and the Jefferson Letters, You might come to the understanding that even way back then some Federalists believed the constitution was a great hinderance to the Idea of a Central Government. And they wanted to abolish it! That’s why the The Federal Government was divided into three branches and the Constitution and it’s Bill of rights was “The Rule of Law”. To be obeyed and protcted by the Legislative and Administrative branches, and to be protceted and interpreted only by the Judicial branch. That’s why it took ten years to finish the constitution.
Any amendment to the Constitution has to be ratified by two thirds of the States in order to become law.
And from the little I know, “Any law that is an abomination to the Constitution is therefore Unconstitutional and is illegal.” This was a ruling from the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, circa 1890; or around there. My memory fails me, but I think it was O.W. Holmes or D. Webster.
Ok… Enough with the history lesson. What can we do? We can Impeach! Why wait for the next election? Obama has yet to provide proof of citizenship, he is attempting to make law, treaties with other countries, many of which are in violation of our constitution. Both of which are “Impeachable.” An attempt was made to Impeach Bush and his father, both of which failed, mostly because of government denial and interferance. Impeach members of Congress and the Senate for failing to uphold the Constitution and ignoring their constituants, for perpertating fraud on the American people, for failing to protect our borders, for failing to uphold and enforce our immigration laws, and failing to enforce our criminal laws. These are impeachable offenses. When you impeach, you deny these fat cats the benifits they voted for themselves, if you wait till next election and vote them out you just give them their outrageous retirement benifits. Why do that?
We (the American People) seem to have a weakness for voting for the best sound byte they see of TV. what a waste of your vote. Some will go by party lines.. Another sad waste of votes. America PAY ATTENTION, do your homework and vote for the person who either has a record of protecting American Sovereinty or isn’t on the the Corporate payroll. Voting for the Democrats or the Republicans is basically voting for the same ole’ “change”. Americans are going to be eating that for some time… Abolish the Federal Reserve. The biggest destructive force facing Americans. Re-establish the gold standard and kick out the World Bank. Some of our representatives favor this move I.E. Ron Paul & Ralph Nader, In my opinion great Americans, and patriots to boot!
And last but not least… If you have been educated by our great public education system since the mid 60’s, you need to be re-educated. Remember “only a well informed and educated people can rule wisely”(Thomas Jefferson) and “If you have to ask what rights you have; You have none” (Benjamin Franklin).
June 1st, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Shawnee Tecumseh: Please have a look at http://www.nativeamericansagainstobama.org. Deb McCleod, who runs the site, was a sister PUMA, along with me and millions of other (mostly now former) Democrats. We were hip to Obama’s bullsh*t, especially those of us who witnessed the ACORN-led thuggery, intimidation, harassment, and CHEATING (in every way imaginable) at our Dem caucuses. Bobo STOLE the nomination, and the mainstream media refused to report the truth.
And if you watched the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting, May 31, 2008 (aka the day democracy died), you know that Herr Doktor Dean and the Gang of Losers rigged it. I know indigenous people have many a legitimate gripe, and I champion First Nation people in every way that I can, and have done so for decades (letters for Leonard, mentoring a Navajo student, etc.). The same kind of tyrannic govt that screwed your people is what we have now. Obama is no friend to native America. No cheating, lying thug ever could be. But don’t listen to this olive-skinned person. Check out NAAO (link above).
I’m now a registered nonpartisan. I’ll never again belong to a pol party–EVER! I may believe in things people here don’t (let gays get married, legalize pot already), but I am for ALL personal freedoms, including the Second Amendment, which Jefferson said was specifically for the purpose of defending against just such the kind of govt we now have.
I’m a firsthand witness/survivor of 9/11, and I won’t suffer terrorists or fools lightly. Furthermore, I don’t think we should be spending a penny on illegals–from ANYWHERE. We should, I believe, refunnel that money to helping First Nation people get a leg up and taking care of all other citizens who are dependent thru no fault of their own (wounded and elderly Vets, physically and mentally disabled, and the elderly who don’t have a pot to p*ss in.
Don’t think because Obama is half black (and, I might add, nothing at all like the black kids I grew up with in the 1960s–they laugh at his claims of being African American) that he’s going to do right by native Americans. Open your eyes and ears to all the information. Search for truth, no matter where you find it. And, again, don’t listen to me, but lend NAAO your ear. See what they have to say.
And to everyone else here: not all Democrats are idiots. Many of us knew from the outset that Obama has no respect whatsoever for the Constitution. We saw him for the Chicago-thug-pol that he is. And even if he was born in Hawaii, we know that his having been a student in Indonesia at a time when ONLY Indonesian CITIZENS were allowed to go to school there, followed by his never having taken the Oath of Citizenship upon his return to the States, disqualifies him for the presidency. And several million of us know firsthand that ACORN rigged the caucuses for him. He did NOT win the nomination. Given all the PUMA votes for McCain, had Repubs and conservatives not either sat home, crossed over, or voted third party, we wouldn’t be facing this dilemma.
I’ll be buying a gun soon, and learning how to use it from two good friends who are sharpshooters. Our country may not be perfect, but it’s the best there ever was, and we can make it even better. I’m not gonna stand by idly while some America-hating pr*ck and his henchmen who usurped the White House try to bring down what the Founders established. The second American Revolution is at hand. I’ll stand with you!
June 1st, 2009 at 9:58 pm
I was voting Republican when most of you still had shit in your britches! Reading these posts it’s no wonder why our Party has lost so many members. Anytime something comes up about guns, look at all the radicals that come out stating they are going to shoot or stab someone. This is madness!! It’s no wonder why some in government want to put limits on gun ownership when they see the kinds of posts they see here! This is what the liberal media and the Obama/Pelosi supporters wants to see and hear so they can label us as “ultra-conservative”, which scares the hell out of the vast majority of American citizens.
I don’t know whether the 2nd amendment truly states that everyone has the Right to keep and bear arms of any kind of weapon they feel they should be able to own, frankly I don’t really care, this is a gray area in our Constitution. But I say don’t listen to a lot of these nuts! The government has no plans now or in the future to take your “legal” weapons away from you, besides, the gun ban liberals aren’t stupid enough to try!
But there has to be limits in a free society! There needs to be harsh penalities if arms dealers in Texas and elsewhere sell weapons and ammo to the Mexican’s shooting it out on “OUR” borders. Or like I read in the paper recently, where some thugs go to gun shows buy whatever they can get their hands on, then sell them to gang members who are responsible for destroying their neighborhoods. These 2 examples are commonsense, right??
I’m behind gun ownership all the way, but I see nothing wrong with “reasonable” background checks and waiting periods. Hopefully by using commonsense we can avoid another school shooting, or another innocent person getting killed.
June 2nd, 2009 at 1:02 am
Bring it on! Time to water the tree.
June 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 am
All this bloviating about how your gonna kick azz is a waste of time. You need to write your representatives now and everyday. If we flood the House and Senate with letters & E-Mail they will get the idea.
June 2nd, 2009 at 11:39 am
The majority of the people writting in is stuck on the 2nd ammendment, of which i’m 100% for, but don’t mention much about the real reason our
Great Country started faltering. When the liberals turned their backs on God and the rest of the Country let them get away with it was when We really started going down hill. Take all religious symbols out of Schools, no mention of the TEN COMMADMENTS, athetists demanding God never be mentioned (what are they afraid of), taking Christ out of Christmas. Muslimism being taught in some public schools, but Judeo-Christian subjects forbidden in the same schools. I could go on and on but unless we as a Country get serious about these things I’m afraid we’ve lost. Something like 86% of Americans believe in GOD, why are we afraid to stand up to a measly 14%. REMEMBER WE ARE–”ONE NATION UNDER GOD”
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
I don’t care what anyone does, I will keep my guns until I die. I have asworn oath to defend my country and youcan’t defend your country with a can opener. Marijuana should be legalized. peace out, Marijuana max
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I am a Marine Corps veteran of OIF I & II. Come and take them from my cold dead hands! I am ready, I stand by my local militia organized within my surrounding counties to resist tyranny when it comes knocking. God help the pour souls that I will deliver unto him who do not have his blessing in their actions.
I shed a new tear each day I flip on the news as I watch pieces of this country eaten by the left.
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
This is the first step the communism has always used to suppress and control the people. This is not the USSR and we don not want to become a communistic people.
If our guns are taken away from us the criminals will always find a way to still have guns and put the rest of society at risk.
Our founding father made sure we would be able to defend ourselves against oppression and we cannot fail to stand up for our rights.
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Guns kill people like knives, forks and spoons make Oprah Winfrey fat!!
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
What other countries do and their laws should not dictate how “Our Rights” which are are protected by the Constitution, are applied on any matter, let alone gun control. If you take our ‘right to bear arms’ away, only criminals or possible dictators will have control. It is time “We The People” are heard.
June 2nd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
What part of “shall not be infringed” don’t they understand. The Second Amendent means that they can’t require any licence, registration, limit or tax that in any way has anything to do with the right keep and carry firearms, and that includes ammunition.
June 2nd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Enough is enough! The Second Amendment is not now nor never was a “gray area” of any kind. The architects of the Constitution as a whole and the Bill of Rights understood that the right to keep and bear arms was essential to a free people (”free state”). They were successful in the Revolution only because they were armed citizens and as such able to resist what they considered abusive government. The placement of the amendment, second out of ten, indicates how vital the drafters of the Constitution believed the “right to keep and bear arms” was. The document does not “give” the right to keep and bear arms rather it implies that right is “unalienable” and as such cannot be “infringed”.
The only way we as a people can become slaves to a tyrannical government is by trusting our elected representatives to act in our collective best interests. The politicians must be watched closely and held accountable for their actions and re-called or replaced when necessary.
Stop listening to the “spin” regarding the Constitution and read the document for your self.
June 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
VIVA LA CONSTITUTION AND THE TO HELL WITH DEMACRATS THEY MAKE ME SICK
June 2nd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Thanks for gun shows across this Great Country of ours. So many people have been buying guns & ammo through individuals (no paperwork involved) that big brother can’t track them all. Hell they can’t track 12 million illegal aliens. We can straighten this mess out in Nov 2012.
June 2nd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
At some point “We the People” must say enough is enough!! We are losing our country at the speed of light now!! Even though the politicians may eventually say we no longer have 2a, us AMERICANS can still have it and believe in it and fight for it. Perhaps our government is the one that needs to be relieved of duty and taken out of our constitution. We can still fight for what we believe in. The system of electing people to represent us does not work as all people running for office seem to be corrupt before they are even running for an office anymore. I am not a military man but I am a volunteer firefighter and a proud American and Texan!! There is no heart more pure than that of a volunteer!! All of you U.S.M.C and other military people. I am with you and will follow you into battle. You all are heroes of this country!! IF GOD IS WITH US, WHO CAN BE AGAINST US!!!
Saving lives and property…..
June 2nd, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Career politicians and the circumstances in which we now find ourselves are the direct result of ignorance on the part of voters. I think if you don’t care enough about the political process to learn about the candidate and his background, you shouldn’t be voting at all.
When you have grown people who vote on the basis of how someone carries himself and how his voice sounds – in addition to making themselves feel “good” about voting for a minority – you have a recipe for scrapping our freedoms, now being carried out as hastily as they can make it happen. And for you shallow-minded imps who would accuse me of racism, know this: I’d give anything if Thomas Sowell were our president instead of the current dedicated Marxist.
Patriots, get your weapons and ammo secured, somehow, somewhere. We’re going to need them as soon as they think they’ve found them all. And that’s when I expect the defecation to hit the mixmaster.
June 2nd, 2009 at 8:22 pm
All I can say is the government can kiss my ass. I will die 1st before they take my guns away. I have always been & always will be a law abiding citizen. But my guns protect me from criminals, terrorist & the government. The people either better get ready to die for what they believe in or become slaves to a bunch of people that are suppose to be our servants not our rulers. Remember 1 thing people we will not leave this world alive. It is better to go out of this world for a cause & tried to do something about it than to just go out like a whipped pup with your tail between your legs. The government has already said everyone of us that disagree with the government are considered terrorist in their view, so watch your back. You never know whats coming.
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
We may need to fight for our Constitution and country to stop these One Worlders from destroying us? Are we going to wait until all of our rights are gone and we are reduced to Stone Age weapons to fight with? By then there wont be enough of us left to do anything? Those who love the USA as I do are going to need to pick a side and I fear sooner rather than later? Otherwise the United States will be a bygone country ruled by 3rd worlders under a One World flag, no more Stars and Stripes, no more freedom, no more Constitution! Just a region in a world dictatorship in which we will be merged with Canada and Mexico! Thats the future unless enough of us stand up and say enough? I pray that people wake up out of there slumber soon enough to save this country? God Have Mercy On Us!
June 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Only governments that fear the people want gun control, and people control. What ever happened to “of the People, for the People, and by the People”? We are supposed to be a nation governed by the people, not the government herding us like sheep into being controled. The original reason for the second amendment was to make sure the people had arms to resist any government that tried to enslave them, including most specifically our own. The people should control the government, not the government control the people. It is way past time for empeachment procedings to begin.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Just bombard your senators everyday, we need to get this bum out, impeach him. Vote, vote and vote. Don’t vote for someone that promises you the moon, we need common sense people.
June 3rd, 2009 at 5:13 am
ITS EASYIER TO CONTROL YOU PEOPLE IF YOU DONT HAVE A MEANS TO PROTECT YOURSELF
June 3rd, 2009 at 10:44 am
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June 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm
We have our work cut out for us now. This administration is socialist and facist. GM, AIG, Chrysler, TARP, unheard of. Companys should prosper and fail as the forces of the market dictate. The bankruptcy laws were steamrolled over. Now our guns?
June 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
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June 3rd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
To All My Brothers… Semper Fidelis!
I am sickened by the actions of BO. I am willing and able to defend our Great Nation as I once did from all enemies both foreign and domestic!
I’ll tell you that our biggest enemy is a domestic one led by none other
than BO himself. I think America as a whole went wrong when the majority elected a president that has NEVER served this great nation!!!
Never risked his life so others can live free! Time for him to go one way or the other before it’s too late!! We need to wake up and say enough is enough!! I will give up my weapons for only one reason when I am DEAD!!!! What we need to do is start lyching these criminals that use guns while commiting a crime and also the people that are selling these guns to these people!! Law abiding gun owners do not use there weapons in the commision of a crime those people are the criminal and if all these bleeding heart liberals would stop crying that we are being to harsh on criminals and start punishing them instead of making there time in prison pleasant for them!! They gave up their constitutional rights when they committed the crimes they were arrested for. Throw them in a cage and let them rot for all I care!
My brothers I will stand beside you and defend OUR NATION when the time comes!!!
June 3rd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
As so many of you have said, I too will stand beside the rest of you with my weapon(s) and defend this country. Please don’t count out our military, they too know what’s happening and most agree they not going to take orders requiring them to confiscate the general public’s weapons. With 2 sons currently serving in Spec Ops and 7 tours between them they have a pretty good idea what going on. After 3 tours in the Nam, I maybe a lot older but also a lot wiser! God Bless our Country, the United States of America.
June 4th, 2009 at 12:57 am
I know that the nazies in DC are going to get my name from this comment, hell they may be funding it. That being said I have a real fear for the country I love, 86 per cent of the american people are straight up good folks, the rest are very misled if they think that they can turn the country into a socialist dictatorship. BHO has all the markings of a dictator, and I’m sure that he dreams of that kind of control, he has that kind of ego. From what I am seeing on the internet the american people are starting to wake TF up, it only took the destruction of the economy and the invasion of 12 million illegals to do it, we sure are slow. We have been ‘ dumbed down ‘ by our education system, the lies that are told to us by media are just taken as truth by the majority of the people, but this internet will be our salvation. We need to vote, write, call, fax and e-mail our ” representives ” and get them off their asses, and vote the carrier politicans out of office, term limits are way past do.
June 4th, 2009 at 7:26 am
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June 4th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Buy all of the guns and ammo you can buy. This guy in the White House is not going to stop. This guy Obama was put in the White House for one thing and one thing only and that is to bring this great Nation down to it’s nees. If you notic he is spending a lot of time in the middle east. Do your part to protect this Country and pray that our lord God will keep his great hand on the USA.
June 4th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Realist Id really really like to see you walk all the way through south Dallas by yourself without a gun, there might even be enough left to bury.
God your such a dumbass.
June 4th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Poor Ryan Smith just another “brainwashed by the government” pawn ! If he would only read the rest of the gun laws instead of the few select ones that he choose’s to read then he would be better educated and informed of the status /level of the gun control already in the laws in this country! And as for how we “look” to the rest of the world WHO CARES ! All these other countries are quick to condem us every chance they get but right there asking for America’s help the first chance they get ! We have troops overseas protecting are freedom but who is here protecting our freedom at home? I say it’s time to forget about those other countries and take care of America first and the world second !
June 4th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Hey Ammerman,
Make way for one more in the trenches, and bring the bastards on. I’m
well armed with plenty of ammo, and adding more all the time. SFC/Ret
U.S. Army (21 years) and two combat tours in Viet Nam. They won’t make it out of Florida alive, if they do make here in the first place.
June 4th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Attention everyone: What we need to do is a protest, not a posterboard march type protest either ,(stick with me and keep reading) Writing to your elected officials does nothing. Even if they read the letters they throw it away and nothing changes, voting anyone new in doesn’t change anything because 1 person can’t change anything! What we need is a protest in the wallet ….Money talks and bullshit walks……Everyone needs to not go hunting, fishing,boating ,camping,don’t buy any guns, ammo, licenses,tags or permits of any kind! Don’t spend any money on any things related to any outdoor activity until the government backs off on gun control . The amount of revenue lost from license sales and taxes lost from butcher shops,bait shops, gun shops,boat sales,etc would cripple the government. Not to mention the added burden from the wildlife population explosion from not being hunted. It would not be long before the government would be erasing gun laws and asking the public what gun laws we need ! Unfortunately there are too many spoiled people in this country that would rather sit on websites and complain about it instead of actually doing something about it,3or 4 or even 1000 people across the country are not going to make it happen we need unity! There is strength in numbers people let’s all pull together and make a sacrifice, take a meaningful stand! We can either sacrifice are fun and toys for a year or two or….. lose them forever!!!!
June 5th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Unbelieveable. Do you bloody idiots not realise that your second ammendment “right” to bear arms, and the attitude it produces, is the very reason so many of the world hate your respective asses. This false notion that you are “the greatest nation on earth” with your “holyier than thou” and “I’m better than you” attitudes that permeate around the world are insulting and patronising, and on the rare occasions when you get a President that actually recognises and understands the implications of this, he gets branded the anti-christ. If you want a safer place to live where you aren’t crippled with fear and paranoia support the gun control ammendments. Have you ever noticed that the non-threatening democracies of the world don’t get targeted by terrorists, and have relatively low violent crime rates. Wake up to yourselves and do the math.
June 5th, 2009 at 7:08 am
To Dumbfounded ?
You are like the rest of the “sheep”..You have eyes, but can’t see.You have ears, but can’t hear.Evidently you don’t know history,have not been around much of the world and haven’t a clue whats really going on.I have to wonder where you came from.I would challenge you to travel abroad,read ACCURATE history books,then voice your “dribble”..I hope and pray your kind, who have been led to believe such cancerous trash,wake up to the REAL world before the pot of water your in, starts to boil and you realize your cooked!
June 5th, 2009 at 8:05 am
I think we are headed for disaster. We elected a person that is so radically
liberal that really has no glue as to his legislation. He just represents the
inferior people who really do not care for America, or what our fathers, mothers, grandmothers or grandfathers etc. have fought for and died for.
There generation has grown up protected by GOOD law bidden citizens, that have done the dirty work of keeping United States FREE. There generation has gone to school, never learned, never partipated in any organization to prpsper the free rights of Americans. I dont really think they beleive in GOD. I am disgusted with ALL our politians in Congress that are there for one thing, only fill there hearts with power and pockets with MONEY. I am also disturbed, that the BEST country in the world has to app
olize to anybody, for our actions, bad or good. They will never take my
guns away, because that is the last defense before they come to my home.
I really think the quote is still correct, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.
June 5th, 2009 at 9:59 am
O BAA Maa… THe Bleating Heart Sheeples’ Messiah… is a twelve year old Valley Girl, with the cutesy, abbreviated word endings. Does she curtsie after every speech…??? If she was half the man, Mrs. Nobama is, we’d all be better off… The fix is in; and, a fairy merry Obama Yomomma doublecross, to you all… with a Mexican Chinese port of entry, a collossal Chinese Cargo Transport Ship, with a twelve man crew, to deliver the Korean or Chinese Army, in four days, a turnpike cruise through Mexico, USA, and, Canada…. and, how long do you think, a box of ammo, will last…??? We’d best sharpen our harpoons to sink the invading Cargo/Army, and head this nobama off at the pass…. Edgrrr… Stalag Skew, at Y-RICO, Ahnolds’ Kali Fornia… UNITED STATES SOCIALISTIC REPUBLIC [USSR] INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION…. LIZARDS AT LAW….
June 5th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Since I have seceded from the United States and am now a seperate entity, an independant human being, none of what the chimpanze in the White House does makes any difference to me. None of my firearms are registered, nor will they ever be. The ones that I did have that were registered, I either sold or gave away. No government has ever had any right to force me to do anything, just the force….and that can be broken.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
To Dumbfounded:
If your answer is to bury your head in the sand and not take pride in the fact that WE ARE THE GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD, so as not to upset the rest of the shitty world, Then don’t bother, Just bury your head up your own ass. It all the same.
June 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
No matter what laws the government tries to enforce, I shall never surrender my fire arms which will be the safe guard to my country and family members when the need arises. Stick to your guns.
June 5th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
dear god what monster have the democrates let loose on the amer. people? this pres. is for no one but him self and those, who are here without legal means, he wants to leave us unprotected against the terriorests, who see we have a weak leader and one who doesn’t love this country and the laws the young of this country died to protect. Hitler someone wrote? i have a feeling this man will also be some day on trial for war crimes…….we can no longer speak freely, all his camp. promises were lies, but the one that promised chg. but to be honest he never said for the better . ARE WE TO BECOME AN OTHER RUSSIA OF THE COLD WAR………HELP US. HOW CAN WE LEAGALLY GET RID OF THIS FOOL….
June 5th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
To Micheal Hunter . Take a Reality Check…
You are not now, nor ever will be “the greatest nation on earth” but you are certainly the most “arrogant nation on earth”. We dont bury our heads, we just dont try and force our ideals and our war mongering attitudes on the rest of the world. Have you actually read some of the crap posted in this forum. You sound like a bunch of spoiled school children who have had thier toys taken away. For chrissake, most of you have guns for “protection”, from what? millions of other screaming radicals in your own backyard who also have guns for protection. So why do you need protection from yourselves?? How many of you actually hunt with a gun. I have guns, 4 rifles and two shotguns. No handguns beacause they’re bloody useless for hunting, and I live in a peacful country so I dont need protection from my neighbor, and we have a perfectly good military for protection from others. My guns are registered and I dont give a toss that the my Government knows I’ve got them, i’m not paranoid and i’ve got nothing to hide. Seems to me that the people that are scared of registration are the very unstable people that shouldnt have a gun in the first place.
And.. to R.D. Cessna. I have travelled abroad, extensively, to many countries for over 35 years, even yours, and i have indeed seen the cancers in the world, which by in large have mostly been caused by US interference in the politics of other nations. Perhaps you are the one that needs to “open your eyes” Robert Burns in 1796 wrote “I wish to God, the gift he geis, to see ourselves as others see us”. Think about that.
June 5th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Hello all you wannabes. Read a lot of what you all are going to do. Well, let
me tell you something: not one of you have mentioned a traitor in the midst.
There is always a traitor in the midst even if there is only two of you.
I suggest that you all rehearse this over and over again until it sits in the
back of your head until you do not trust anyone.
Do not trust anyone, do not trust anyone, do not trust anyone.
This is the most important advice that anyone can give you.
Your best friend, father, mother, sister, brother, son, daughter and all the
rest of your family and friends will betray you! Yes, they will. I know and I
will never trust anyone again.
If you want to stay alive, have the ability to defend your family and your
country, trust no one. Never tell anyone, no matter who, your plans. Your
life depends on it.
I hope that none of you will ever suffer the tragedy of betrayal.
I say again, trust on one.
jmarsh
June 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
—– Original Message —–
From: Tom C
To: Senator Lugar
Cc: Congressman Ellsworth
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: Fw: 2nd Amendment: Big Vote Coming in Congress that affects us all.
Dear Senator Lugar,
Why would any U.S. Senator ever want to see enacted a treaty which could ultimately cause the disarming of it’s people, and subjection to various United Nation’s affiliated Communist dictators, both foreign and domestic, who would just love to see Americans stripped of the God given “right to bear arms” as has been so affirmed and embodied in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution?
Am I wrong about this, or just what is it about Americans which apparently you and other Rhodes Scholars such as Bill Clinton and other “globalist-waterboys” so despise?
Sincerely,
Thomas E. Conner
Indiana Eighth District Voter
See this poignant video report from Lou Dobbs and Bill Tucker at: http://wearechangecoloradosprings.org/blog/?p=594
June 6th, 2009 at 8:48 am
PLEASE LET US ALL PUT GOD BACK INTO OUR LIVES. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!! LAND THAT WE LOVE.. !!! OBEY GOD’s LAWS first… THIS Land is your land, this land is my land….. AMERICA!!!!!!!! WE are for GOD!!!!!Our GOD is Alive!!!!!
June 6th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
It is amazing to me that if you join the military, the government puts a gun in your hand and calls you a pease keeper. But if those same hands get out of the military and hold a weapon, you are suddenly labled a potential terrorist. I will not give up my rights to defend my loved ones or the right to protect what is mine. All the whiners say if you need protection, call the police. Sure, and by the time help arrives, you and your whole family has been raped, robbed, had your throats cut and left for dead. Includeing the dog. Not on your life Mr. Obama!
June 6th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
I AM A PATRIOT AND I OWN SUME GUNS AND IF THE NON U.S CITIZEN’S
DONT LIKE IT TO DAM BAD. ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW IS IF YOU TRY TO COME TO THE GOOD OLD U.S.A AND TAKE THIM FROM ME YOU WILL NOT SUCSEED IN DOING THAT.HOW EVER ALL YOU WILL SUCSEED IN DOING IS NOWING WHAT DETH IS LIKE FIREST HAND.SO BRING IT ON YOU STUPID MUTHER-F? CAMMEL HUMPING FAGIT’S
PS.
THE SAME GO’S FOR ALL OF THOES THAT TRY TO GET MY GUNS
June 7th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Well now Ladies and Gentlemen: I am a 73 year old female. Yep, I have shotguns and a 38 special. Licenced to conceal and can throw up that 20 g. with no problem and surely will if needed. I am with you and have a bit of a problem climbing the hill but you can bet I will have your back. What are these idiots in DC thinking. Texas alone is surely gun strong i not to mention all the other states. All these whimps can sit on their duffs cause I can only bet if it comes down to fight or die some will be going down with us cause I’m not giving up my gun, dogs or anything else mine. What a shame such a costly mistake was made in this last election. Wonder what shamo obamo is going to do when North K blows up the white house. He will probably be over in Saudi having tea since he is never home anyway. You know we all are probably going on some hate list for making these comments but what the hey, bring er on.
June 7th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
An HONEST American government has nothing to fear from FREE Americans. If ALL were armed there would be far less crime. Signs should be placed in yards saying this homeowner is armed please rob my neighbor who believe’s in gun control. NV 68-69.
June 7th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Wow, All I can say is I’m happy NOT to be a redneck radical. (and my education taught me to spell, unlike many on this forum)
Bye now.
June 7th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
You may be able to spell, but you sure can’t punctuate, capitalize or otherwise use grammar properly.
June 7th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
[...] this by using a foreign treaty as the process- watch this. You have to see this to believe it!! http://wearechangecoloradosprings.org/blog/?p=594 FYI [...]
June 7th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Lord, may the people who demanded no taxation without representation come forward. This was the start of the American revolution: where is the spirit our founding fathers had, why cannot we protest this now? Our guns will be only registered by honest people… it is the crimials we need to attack, not our citizens who pay their taxes, pray and hope for a Nation under God.
June 7th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
When cautioned about politicians and the need to vote for people with integrity most people would answer “We have a Constitution to protect us “. Well Germany also had some form of Constitution before Hitler arrived. Maybe we deserve the government we have, we voted for this people.
May God protect us.
June 7th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Dumbfounded,
You are right, Americans are arrogant, and try to push their beliefs onto other countries, but not all Americans, only what is now known as the American Government is doing this. The same government WE THE PEOPLE are fed up with !!
Gun controol….its already here, just not as bad as it will soon be. I am not freely allowed to own an M16 without a government issued permit, therefore controlled. Controlled by a tyrannical government that want control over all lands, not just the USA.
I see some comments about electing a Republican, or maybe even a Democrat……Can’t you people see that they ARE ONE IN THE SAME ?? I mean come on, if you lose the election, you should not be all buddy buddy with your opponent, maybe give them a helping hand taking office but not sharing the same bed with them for heaven sakes !!
If you really want to change things through an election, then don’t elect either party, it is time for a new party that is for our Constitution and the words that are written in our Constitution.
Contact your congressman?? most of them are in on it, ever hear of tossing the dog a treat for being a good boy and doing what he is told?
If its going to be done, it needs to start at the very least the state level, and then continue on to the federal level, only elect people that stand for our Constitution, 100%, there is no 1/2 way, you are either for or against, and in my opinion, if you vote into office a person representing either political party then you are against us.
Term limits….well, that could just jump up and bite you right in the wazoo, if you get a good one in there, do you really want them gone?, election is the way to make some one disappear that is not doing a good job of representation…..impaechment is another
I WILL stand with all my brothers and sisters of this GREAT NATION should it come down to having to go to arms.
NOW the next thing, someone needs to create JUST ONE web site so we can ALL organize, there are WAYYYY too many sites out there to have any kind of order SO WE MUST ALL agree to ONE WEB SITE for organization.
If you can’t tell, I’m tired, yes I have read EVERY comment left here, well over two hours of reading so if I have miss spelled or you are having trouble deciphering my gibber jabber, blame it on being tired or blame it on inefficient school systems or what ever you want to blame it on.
June 8th, 2009 at 1:23 am
The second amendment protects individual rights. There was no national guard in 1791. The militias were not government organizations but groupings of private individuals who placed themselves under government operational control and this is what is encouraged by the phrase about a well regulated militia, that such groupings be created and voluntarily placed under governmental operational control. The national guard concept came later. The main purpose of the second amendment is to ensure that the Republican form of government guaranteed by the Constitution can be preserved by those who created the Constitution in the first place: we, the people and not any a mercenary force hired by any government especially the federal government. Tis militia that the second amendment mentions is not one more government force but the watchdogs that wuill make sure that the government remais responsive to the people and not the other way around. Just as the individual has a right to defend himself from attempts at his life, liberty, property and other rights by criminals, he has a right to defend himself, both individually and collectively against attempts against his life, liberty, property and other rights by any tyrant, foreign or domestic. Arms are the best defense in these cases. Those who prefer to be guarded by others and are willing to surender their rights to self defense in exchnage for this pretended protection will eventually be enslaved by their protectors. History has born this out and this is the theme of many works of the dramatic arts from literature to the cinema. Billions are expended in thse industries and the best sellers are those that emphasize this theme. Defenseless individuals and communities who turn to some hero for their protection when they could have taken charge of their own defense either individually or collectively if they had had the means to do so. Once lost, this freedom is almost impossible to recuperate unless they arm themselves and from where once they are deprived of the ability to acquire these means for self defense? Who will protect them that many clamor for desarming those who are unwilling to entrust their safety and freedom to others of dubious intents? Will it be the the very entity that will enslave them, the all powerful State through the government and its ancillary institutions? Patrick Henry, famous for his liberty or death speech refused to be a delegate to the Constitutional Convention. Maybe he should have gone. It would have taken a lot more concessions to individual liberties than those that the Constitution provided in its original form. The real founding fathers were those who opposed the Constitution and who had to be appeased by the federalists by conceding the need for the Bill of Rights which is what most mean when they talk about the Constitution because it is what recognizes, guarantees and protects our individual liberties which search as you might in the Constitution original parts you will never find. Those who will surrender their liberty to the government in exchange of a “cross my heart to protect and defend you” will eventually end up being protected and defended by those that prefer to rely on themselves to ensure their own liberty and safety. It is not the duty of any police agency to protect and defend anyone. They are there to apprehend those who violate the law and bring them to justice. They can act only after the fact. If their presence happens to deter someone’s intention to violate the law, it is merely a bonus. The federal courts have establisehd that and the Supreme Court has denied certiorari, that is, it has upheld that decision by not looking into the issue. Cops have no duty to protect nor defend you. They can if they are around at the time but unless there is a violation of the law, they cannot act. Any intervention must be substantiated by probale cause to be considered valid under the Constitution. That’s what the 4th amendment is about. Some police agencies have become private security agencies for rich and powerful individuals and communities. That is another theme constantly portrayed in literature and the dramatic arts and industries. When they come for you in the middle of the night, who will come to assit you?
June 8th, 2009 at 1:52 am
(Ryan Smith II is not related to the original Ryan Smith poster.)
First off, I hope all you defenders of the 2nd Amendment are supporting the Associations that fight on a daily basis for your right to keep and bear arms- the NRA, ( http://home.nra.org/#/home ), CCRKBA ( http://ccrkba.org/ ), Second Amendment Foundation ( http://www.saf.org/ ), your state’s (or local) Rifle or Pistol Association. And I mean monetarily.
These are the folks who keep up with all the latest National, State, and Local issues regarding the 2nd Amendment, and help fight (in court if necessary) for your right.
June 8th, 2009 at 2:12 am
To Dumbfounded,
I am sure that you are not an “American”. “Bloody” is more of a British expression than U.S.
And now I hear that Britain is thinking about banning knives. I guess the days of a tough steak in Britain are gone.
I consider myself to be a redneck, but I am not radical, just as all radicals are not rednecks.
On a serious note, I keep weapons in my home for a variety of reasons-protection, hunting, target shooting.
As stated by earlier posters, the Police do not have a responsibility to keep you safe in your home. They are reactive, not proactive-a reason for the homeowner to be proactive by arming himself.
June 8th, 2009 at 4:18 am
I may need one of my brother Marines to “liberate” a motor for my wheelchair, but my trigger finger still works perfectly. For the person(s) who questioned our willingness to put it all on the line, to defend our freedoms I have exactly one thing to say….Been there, done that, and still capable of doing it some more.
Nuff Said
June 8th, 2009 at 7:03 am
Dear Dumbfounded,
Even though your “Self Proclaimed” name makes it own case, your lack of ablity to properly quote someone says much more. Robert Burns said, “Oh, that God the gift would give us To see ourselves as others see us”. Grateful I am however, that this gift has not been imposed as you would seem to like. I would much rather see people through Gods eyes. You seem educated. Sadly your education didn’t teach you to speak your mind without having a need to prove you are smarter by insulting people. I think that was something taught in Kindergarden. Has your education gone to your head in more ways than one, thereby pushing out the parts about how to treat others. Sadly you also seem to missing an education in the biblical verses which read that the one world government is coming. Whether you believe in God or not, or pick and choose the verses you like and/or don’t like it has already been written.
Truthfully, there are more paranoid people in this country than most want to admit. However, our own government, falling in line with what they think is THIER OWN thoughts, give us many reasons to second guess much of what they do. This all being neither here nor there. The bottom line is this…(without the History lesson) Our Constitution was written to protect the people from the Government. To keep the Government in check. To give us liberty to keep us a free nation. To keep the Government from dictating what religion we practice, but to allow our beliefs to freely guide us as we vote for those we want to see in governemet. Those freedoms are slowly being pulled away. Too many brainless or brainwashed wonders are allowing fear to guide them into thinking that we need more government, which in turn is the same government that is doing all it can to take away the one main thing that keeps them in check. THE FEAR THAT US REDNECKS (as you called us) WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FORM A MILITIA, GUIDED BY THE CONSTITUTION IT’S SELF, AND TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY, BY FORCE IF NECESSARY, AND SEE THEM ALL ON THIER WAY OUT.
For the record, your attempt at an inuslt using “REDNECK” fell short. And since you don’t live in these United States of America (THE GREATEST NATION ON THE PLANET), you really should keep your educated mouth shut about things that don’t concern you.
Ray
June 8th, 2009 at 8:23 am
If obama makes it till the next election, we might not. I impeach him NOW.
June 8th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Thanks everyone (with the exception of Realist) for the attitudes being expressed, as a 11 year vet. of the LOCAL streets its nice to see that not everyone has swallowed the little pill of Progressive/socialism that the liberal part of America thinks is SO great. Everyone NEEDS to wake up to the fact that folks in my position will also be a VERY REAL THREAT to our rights being taken away as will ANY troops from other counties. We “the local police” are being Federalized as fast as the Gov. can get it done, and folks let me tell you that this IS NOT A GOOD THING.
As far as the “militia” is conserned it seems to me that “Realist” needs to do some fact checking before opening thier obviously unread mouth!!! the Militia was and STILL IS supposed to be made up of citizens ready, willing and able (with THIER OWN MILITARY STYLE WEAPONS) to show up if and when they are needed to “help” the regular military (who by the way was NEVER supposed to be a permenant/full time gig) defend THIS country against ANY threat.
So it seems to me that before some people open thier yaps they need to reads-up on the facts. THOSE WHO DON’T REMEMBER HISTORY or at least READ about it, ARE GOING TO REPEAT IT!!!
LO
June 8th, 2009 at 9:55 am
WELL SAID Ray,
The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination. Dumbfounded not only has allowed his (guessing male – could be wrong) country to destroy his right to keep a gun to protect his family from the many Home Invasions that these other gunless countries seem to experience, but he has also allowed his country to let him think that HIS OWN COUNTRY isn’t great. Why would you want to live in a country that you yourself didn’t think was the greatest. If I didn’t think that the United States was the greatest nation, I believe I’d have to find a way to move to the one that was better…just like all the millions and millions more imigrants that have risked thier lives to come here.
The people of every nation on this Third Rock from the Sun should think that its nation is the greatest. How sad that Dumbfoundeds education has kept him or her from the imagination that made the USA as great as it is.
And hey Mr. OR Mrs. (or what ever Lordship title you wish you deserved) Dumbfounded and the others just like you…don’t be down on someone for mispelling a word now and then. You alone did not spell the word GIVES correctly “geis”. I may not win a spelling bee, but I live where millions more people around the world wish they could live.
God Bless America – even though we don’t deserve it.
Passin’ by
June 8th, 2009 at 11:59 am
I think it’s really interesting that when someone posts criticism that y’all would call left wing (or even socialist or communist – not that the posts really are those things, some of us just don’t seem to know what those words mean) that poster is attacked by folks who are “spittin’ mad”.
But when someone like Don American, a Republican and gun owner, posts his call for reason, for us to look at what we’re saying and think instead of just reacting, everyone completely ignores him. Where is the intelligent rebuttal to his post? Perhaps there is none?
June 8th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Kudos to Ray in Ohio.
And,
“The Constitution IS NOT an instrument for the Government TO RESTRAIN THE PEOPLE, it is an instrument for the PEOPLE TO RESTRAIN THE GOVERNMENT, LEST IT COME TO DOMINATE OUR LIVES AND INTERESTS.” Patrick Henry (EMPHASIS ADDED)
It appears that we have let down our constitution, and we are not holding our elected representatives accountable for upholding the Constitution.
I am lucky that I live in a State where, by and large, OUR elected representatives DO follow the Constitution. Too bad for us that too many citizens live in States that (they think) are progressive. The proper word for them would be regressive. They are brainwashed by their politicians into believing that the Government is Utopia.
Remember this, if you remember nothing else, YOUR TAXES ARE WHAT KEEPS THE GOVERNMENT GOING. If too many of the “rich”are taxed beyond what is fair, they then have a reason to move to a country which treats its citizens more fairly (or is there no place like that left on this earth?).
Ryan II
June 8th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Amen Cessna to your response to Dumbf*** !
June 9th, 2009 at 12:56 am
One thing I do not understand: Why do not everybody believing in the 2A, shooters, hunters, gun collectors belong to the NRA?
June 9th, 2009 at 2:14 am
To Ray, My Scottish ancestry demands that I put you straight with the works of Robert Burns. The last verse of the poem in it’s entirety is this;
O wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae mony a blunder free us,
An’ foolish notion:
What airs in dress an’ gait wad lea’e us,
An’ ev’n devotion!
It was actually written as an Ode to a Louse that was seen sitting on a lady’s bonnet in church, and no mention of God was ever made, but the phrase “O wad some Power”is widely believed to be a reference to God. Many historians believe that Burns was not actually a religious man, and it is widely known that he was drunkard, so it may not be. Look it up and be educated further. I merely stated the most common translation to Queens English as many people no longer understand the Gàidhlig dialect. If any mistake was made, is was that the date was 1786, not 1796. As to me keeping my “educated mouth shut about things that don’t concern you”. This does concern me, and every other free speaking, free thinking person on the planet, due to your succesive governments never ending quest to impose it’s will on all other soveriegn nations on earth. Do you not think the Lugar proposal to ratify the INTERNATIONAL treaty has implications for others as well. It works both ways you know, and I’m actually not that comfortable about your Govt knowing what guns I’ve got.
To Dum Dum (how apt) Your quote… “You may be able to spell, but you sure can’t punctuate, capitalize or otherwise use grammar properly.”….. The word is “correctly”
To Ryan Smith II. You are correct, I am not an American and never claimed to be one, and nor do I live there, and I’m not a Brit or live there either, but you may need to do some reading on the proposed banning of knives there, to get the real story and not just the media hype.
To Just Passin’. I absolutley believe my country is greatest COUNTRY on earth to live, and is the reason I live here, I’m just not arrogant enough to think that its the “greatest NATION on earth”. Please re read my post. My country has not taken my guns away, they are locked safely away in a cabinet not 4 metres from where I’m currenty seated. As to the spelling, read some Gàidhlig poetry for use of words that may not be found in the Oxford dictionary, or Websters for that matter.
To Disheartened. Hallelujah, finally, some more intelligent reasoning from another educated person. Don American has had the most intelligent input into this thus far.
June 9th, 2009 at 9:55 am
he does’nt belong in office, is ruining this nation, will be impeached before 4 years are up. thank god
June 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Be afraid, be very afraid! OMG where are those guns when you need them! Oh! The US Government wants to take them away. Are you kidding me I don’t believe it! You can buy all the guns you want and the ammo too. How many guns is enough? Don’t we have nuclear weapons? What is everyone afraid of? Isn’t all of this a silly facade to talk talk talk about politics rather than the real enemy – corporations! Corporations have bought our government and all of our lected officials. This is the “real” enemy!
June 9th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Number 1 ,Everyone quit complaining and move for an impeachment.
Number 2,The Constitution and the Bill of rights are not suggestions,our country is founded on these tenets
Number 3,the whole group in Congress, who do they represent , themselves ? Get rid of them.
Number 4, Government employees , who alledgely work for Americans, have their own Goverment sponsored insurance that is totally different than the Americans, they have “no skin in the game”
when it comes to socialized health care …..
We all could add to this rhetoric , but we have to get back to work.
June 9th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Is this the change ???
June 9th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
i’ll never give up my guns
June 9th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
It is clear that this administration and those in Congress (AKA Democrats!) are all idiots. They live in an insulated life provided by we the people and don’t understand that not only do we have the RIGHT to bear arms but the need too! Our founding fathers gave us this right to, among other things, protect ourselves from our own government.
For those law makers who read this I say this. Obama is NOT our king! Stop treating him as such and use your balls to uphold our constitution!
June 9th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
hes puting us in a box and putting locks on it. hes going to be the death of us.did u guys hear that he called us an MUSLIUM countey?!?!?! how does that make the christans, like me, of America???? man this guys gona get hurt!!! and hes got no one to blam but himself!!
June 10th, 2009 at 4:39 am
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story……
Nothing in the treaty proposed eliminates the right to own a firearem. The controversial parts are registration in a national database and subjecting US citizens to legal action outside the US.
The first item, national registration, is already requied in some cases. When the FBI does a backround check through NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System) it accesses the Interstate Identification Index. Included in this index are individuals who have been arrested or indicted for “a serious criminal offense anywhere in the country.” Note “indicted”…not convicted.
The treaty would require gun registration, now required in 44 states, to be pooled in a national database. From a law enforcement perspective it would help to be able to track a firearm used in a crime to whatever state and purchaser it came from. Make no mistake…firearms are used in violent crimes. Registration gives law enforcement another tool to help track down the bad guys. It might help prevent some crimes, but the main effect is to help convict those who do use guns in crimes.
The second objection is the subjection of US citizens to foreign law enforcement actions. Guess what….the US already has extradition treaties with about 100 countries. (List is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of…ition_treaties). US citizens can be extradited to any of these countries if they have a legal claim under their laws, including Mexico. Nothing new here. What is new is adding the ability to track gun ownership nationally, a tool Mexico wants to be able to curttail the flow of what it considers illegal guns into their country. At present, the large majority of guns used in Mexican violent crimes come from the US, having been purchased legally but sold illegally to non-citizens. It is the illegal resale of these guns that is at the heart of the treaty provisions.
So, does the US make it easier to track down illegal gun sales, or not? Do we want to help stop the drug trade, which uses these guns in violent crimes, or do we want to facilitate the flow of drugs into the US by not letting Mexico pursue illegal sales of guns?
Not easy questions to answer, which is why the Right pushes this as a simplistic “they are taking our guns away” which is, of course, a lie. Never known for in-depth analysis, Fox News and other commentators (Lou Dobbs, for one) never examine or explaine the background and roots of this proposal.
I would prefer that the US crack down on the illegal gun sales to foreigners, but that appears unlikely to happen. If the situation was reversed, would I want to be able to litigate against Mexican illegal gun dealers that were protecting the drug trade? Probably.
But, th truth is that this is not an attempt to weaken the 2nd amendment – the argument that it is is pure BS – but is one of law enforcement against illegal gun sales. You will have to decide which side of this argument you are on; IMHO the illegal sales are contributing to the drug trade and killing of people, and I am against both of those particular vices.
And please…stop the knee jerk reaction when anyone says “gun control” and “2nd amendment” in the same sentence.
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June 10th, 2009 at 5:53 am
I have read and heard all of the complaints about BHO and I couldn’t agree more. The people that voted for him did not know what he was about other than watching what he was doing on his “soap opera” tv programs. Shame on them for not being informed and I am REALLY disappointed in the people voting in this country. Why in the HELL would you vote for a PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES with the name of Muslim descent and then act surprised when everything comes to light and takes the side of ISLAM over Christianity? Are you all STUPID? You folks that voted for this man are in my opinion guilty of high treason and are a domestic enemy to this country. I took a vow about 16 years ago to defend this great country of mine to protect it against all enemiews foreign and domestic. Walk lightly! the true AMERICANS in this country will take a stand with me and we are nothing like some back woods militia with 200 members holding a shooting spree on the weekends wearing store bought BDU’s and screaming like a bunch of school girls.
I am an Army Ranger and will always do what t takes to make sure that my family and all of it’s descendants will have a free and noble country to believe in and live freely in. Make no mistake, you raise up to much fuss about supporting gun control under the MUSLIM leader that you follow and you are putting yourslef in harms way. All true soldiers and marines that I have seen on this forum have the right idea. God bless you guys for spilling the blood in the mud that you have and watched your fellow Americans die on foreign soil. Let’s not let that be in vain from one man trying to ruin this country.
As far as the buying up all the ammo that you can, I truly believe that you should stock up. No doubt about it. But you have to remember to “improvise and overcome”! What I mean by that is that you will have plenty of spare mags laying on the ground as you ADVANCE and when the smoke clears. Utilize what was once against you as a formidable weapon agianst your enemy. SO the ammo that you have, zero in your weapons and true them up! Good Luck America and we will stand behind you all of the way.
June 10th, 2009 at 5:58 am
HE IS A COMMIE , HOW STUPID IS THE YOUTH OF AMERICA WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS ELECTION VICTORY.,
THE ONLY WAY THEY WILL GET MY GUNS IS BARREL FIRST
June 10th, 2009 at 7:49 am
register convicts, not peaceful american citizens
June 10th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Gun control hasn’t worked for Mexico. –Won’t work for the US either.
June 10th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Excuse me, I think I just threw up in my mouth.
June 10th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
I wish our politicians would spend more time on caring for our combat vets on their return to the US, they have many needs that are not being attended to, but our politicians can spend time and resources on trying to lock up our ammo and guns.
I will die for my family, country, my rights and my guns. No one will ever take any of the above from me.
God Bless OUR America.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
LEAVE THE 2ND AMENDMENT ALONE IT’S OUR RIGHT AS AMERICANS TO OWN AND BARE ARMS. PUNISH THE CRIMENALS NOT THE ONEST HARD WORKING AMERICAN PEOPLE.
June 11th, 2009 at 10:07 am
No, actually, Lou, the Fraud Muslim in charge, stated, right before and after he was fraudulently voted in by the sheep. ” don’t worry (while smirking), America, I am not going to take your Guns.” Is that just like he is not going to take any of our other freedoms…. or is it like he said he isn’t interested in taking over our banks, or our car manufacturers??? you tell me.. Now, once he got his terrorists and die-hard socialists/communists in office to back his weak play, and only when that happened did he, infact start being very clear about taking the guns and ammo. In his defense, though, how can one take complete control and dictate, yes I said it, a country that is armed to the teeth? Take every civil right and destroy the constitution before they can elect a real, genuine naturalized American Citizen (without a hyphen) for President of these once, and can be again, great nation.
I am still Proud (directed at the Obamas’) to be an American citizen..
May GOD be with us and forgive us… and no, Mr. Muslim this American will not convert or bow to anyone other than GOD, or Jesus Christ… and yes I do have my bible, but amazingly this American does not own a gun…
but when I want to buy one, the constitution of these United States says I am entitled to…
Y’all think Bush was bad, just wait until the Head Muslim unleashes Sharia law upon us… and you don’t think it will happen… Why do you think Obama is trying to disarm the most armed people in the world — free or solialist??
OPEN YOUR EYES AMERICA…
June 11th, 2009 at 10:09 am
IT AINT FARE FOR US AMERICANS STOP WORRING ABOUT GUNS!!!!!!!! START BRING THOSE TROOPS HOME!!!!!! THAT WAS THE PROMISE HE MADE!!!!!! GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS AND THE WOUNERFUL COUNTRY WE LIVE IN U S A
June 11th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Enough is enough. Start the recall get rid of Obama, Biden and Pelosi. I am ex Army and am afraid to even go to the local firing range as they now want you to sign in and register all weapons you are bringing with you. I cannot even find ammo without going 30 miles and get on a waiting list. Time to start hiding your collectables just keep around what you need for self defense. I know in my court that there are 3 of us that own and collect guns and have never been in any trouble. The politicians must be out of the freakin minds, they try taking guns they will be a blood bath. They will need 24 hour protection there are more urgent things to do that mess with honest tax paying citizens. Like balance the budget. I have never been into politics but someone a lot smarter than me ought to start a recall on Obama and I will help in any way I can.
Greg Tallman
Concord, CA
June 11th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
If you are not frightened by what Prez. Hussein has done since he has been in office there is something very wrong with you. I fear for my children and grandchildren now. I would give my life in an instant prevent what is going to happen soon. No one is going to separate the Obama supporters from the anti-Obama patriots. They are going to be just as dead as many of us will be. He’s not even making an effort to cover up what he is doing. Friends, don’t let the left draw you into the racist argument. This is not a racist issue. If you are accused of racism, offer no response. We need to concentrate on the truth and not waste any time trying to prove we are not racist.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Now is the time to organize. Walk light and carry a BIG stick!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 11th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Americans need to wake up before it is to late. Other countries should have no control over this Country.
June 11th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
If you do not already have sufficient ammo at this time, I suggest you concentrate your firearms acquisitions on calibers in standard military usage in whatever theater of operations you foresee yourself having to operate in. That way, you can use the enemy to replenish your supplies as they are rendered “inoperative”. This may well prove to be the only way one can maintain adequate supplies in this era of “federally mandated” ammo shortages.
June 11th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
It’s the right to BEAR (carry, hold) arms…..not “bare” (unclothed, revealed). Please continue your support of the 2nd amendment, but don’t make those of us who support it look like a pack of uneducated dimwits by not even quoting it correctly. Organization is the key. I don’t care if you have 15,000 rounds, you can be overcome by an organized armed effort. So, rhetoric aside, from where will the organization come? Who will take the next step creating the bandwagon we can all rally behind? We cannot stand separately alone. We must be together. So who on this forum will help lead? Red Wulf, Tom Oates, Eddie Hubbard, Wayne Scheetz, Doc, Dan? You all have some sense of direction. What next? Who will take the reins? Oh, and Dumbfounded…good job quoting Robert Burns. Very accurate and impressive.
June 11th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
For what it’s worth, Dumbfounded, with all the fine work on Robert Burns, you should know better than to say, “in it’s entirety” OR “impose it’s will…” When used as a possessive pronoun, “its” does not require an apostrophe, only when it is a contraction for “it is”. Despite our slight differences, I agree with your praise of Don American. His is a refreshing insight to an otherwise radicalized set of voices. Thanks for chipping in on our eternal internal debate.
June 12th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
RE: Voice of Reason’s claim that most of the guns getting to Mexico come from the U.S., I think you need to check your facts. Approximately 10% come from the U.S. The rest come from the southern border and by sea. You can imagine who they come from-there are a lot of countries that will do anything they can to cause hardship in the U.S. and keeping the Mexican Drug Cartels in business is one way for them to do that.
Also,
Even if a person posting here may not know how to spell properly or use correct punctuation, that does not give the rest of you “holier than thou” nitwits the right to criticize them. Just remember- they might be a lot smarter than you.
June 12th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
I wonder if the men that is in the Air Force, Army, Navy and Coast guard
etc. know what most of BOTH pariies are trying to do to our country and how do they feel about it. It might be good if they were advised.
One of the main thing that need tobe done I beleive is stop trying to get
GOD out of our land and let him bless the United States as he did before.
June 12th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
The best way to solve problems is trusting in Jesus Christ and
obeying his word
June 12th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Merriam – Webster gives the definition of a nitwit as “a scatterbrained or stupid person” It’s been my experience that people in that category are not generally smarter than people able to recognise grammer and spelling mistakes. You are, however, correct, they might be smarter. I doubt it, but they might be, but more importantly does the First Amendment not guarantee the Freedom Of Speech, or are you being selective about which amendments are important to you and “to hang with the rest”.
Irrespective of over what border guns are finding thier to Mexico, the FACT remains that the vast majority of them are from the US. Whether or not they go to Columbia first and then to Mexico is irrelavant and simply a smoke screen, think money laundering. The undeniable FACT is that the vast majority of them originate from the US. The authorities are not finding AK47’s in great numbers, they are finding vast numbers of US made weapons of all shapes and sizes. Do some research and find the FACTS. Here might be a good place to start http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/related/102060 , there are plenty of others.
June 12th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Try this one too… http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/Officials_say_most_weapons_from_raid_came_from_Texas_dealers.html
June 13th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Voice of Reason:
The two articles, San Antonio and Tucson, were about the same raid.
This bust in Reynosa is but a small part of the illegal guns that are reaching Mexico.
I agree there are unscrupulous people on both sides of the border, but disarming the law-abiding citizen in the U.S. is not the way to go.
And since I (and all of you) know that anything we say on this site will NEVER change the minds of the “other side”,I will now go away and let the rest of you try to persuade the other side that yours is the only way to go.
Remember this, though- in my neighborhood, it is well known that there are enough hunters and other law-abiding gun owners to protect ourselves and our neighbors. You should be so lucky.
And by the way, guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens prevent an astonishing number of crimes in the U.S.-without firing a shot.
June 13th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
That raid might well represent a small part of the trade, but 70.9% of the 540 rifles had traceable serial numbers and 80% of those came from licenced dealers just across the border in Texas, the remaining 20% were traced to US dealers in other states. These are fairly normal percentages in these raids. Forgive me if i’m wrong but isnt that significantly more than your previously claimed 10%. Like I said “never let the facts get in the way of a good story”. And as to having enough protection, the really sad part about that is that you need protection from your neigbours in the first place, and you’re right nobody “wins” these arguments, they’ve been going on since time began in one form or another and are part of the basic human battle of wits called “Brains against Brawn”
June 14th, 2009 at 3:59 am
All countries subject to dictator, had gun removed first and than were
helpless.
Those that voted for obama, didn’t do any research, voters should be
responsible. I made the mistake of voting for j carter and we are still
paying for his mistake and next to obama he could become a Sunday
school teacher with some training, What do we have asa president.
I think he was never taught american values
June 14th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Today, June 14, is FLAG DAY. I haven’t heard any mention of it on media programs. Gun control, history teaches us that those who surrendered their guns, also lost their freedom. I hope Americans won’t be as stupid as they have been in the past four decades to give up their guns. HOW did we arrive in such a dumbed up society???? Could it be television, movies, and rappers who have influenced the population into this stupidity?
June 14th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Bullshit.
Its almost time Patriots.
Write your “representatives”
June 15th, 2009 at 9:23 am
I am like quite a few millions of very orderly, law abiding citizens that are waiting and watching . . . not sure for what, but I will recognize it when it comes. Among other things it will be any kind of gun confication. I am old, creacky, have lived a good life and am not afraid to die.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
It’s been a long time comming now it’s like a roll of toilet paper the closer it gets to the end the faster it unwinds. Where were all of you folks when the race is on, this must be settled at the poles, that means don’t just vote, campaign, contribute and do anything tou can to get that bastard out of there and send Pelosi and the rest packin. If there is a fight we’ll all be on line to get it done, but if they figure a way to turn the military on us, well just let me say that those of us who have served really wouldn’t want any part of that, You just don’t reckon with a 62 ton tank or gunship with a 30-30 and a pick up. I just pray that our generals will have the backbone they will need if the government ever trys that. Heck I’m still waitin for all the free stuff.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
I can’t freaking believe this. I am a US Army and US Marine veteran. I have a collection of guns. Some work some don’t. But anyone, ANYONE foreign or domestic that tries to take my guns away is asking for assistance in THEIR own suicide. I will happily comply!
June 16th, 2009 at 5:36 am
If those people in power – or soon to be (Sotomayor in this case) conclude that 2A doesn’t apply to the states, what’s keeping them from saying that none of the Bill of Rights apply to the states? They are trying to take our guns away for any reason they can find, be it the border problems, any random act of violence that involves a weapon, etc. Where’s it going to end? When they take away our freedom of speech, press or religion? Our right to illegal search and seizure? Incarceration for no reason other than “you look suspicious”? Incarceration without a trial? Etc.
It appears to me that we are heading down that road that might be very difficult to get turned around on. I’m proud to say I didn’t vote for Obama – I’m a libertarian. The federal government should stay out of state government and uphold the Constitution as it’s written, not how some people want to “interprete” it. Interpretation, just like opinions, are like a$$holes – everyone has one, and they are all different, and most usually stink.
June 16th, 2009 at 6:32 am
i have a gun collection and i want my grand children to have them when the time comes! i also hunt deer, dove,quail and ducks, (i have all of my life), and i’ll be damn sure as hell do not want my rights of owning firearms taken away from me!! we all need to fight for our rights and like it was said above, let the american people vote on this! this man does not have the right to take away our second amendment,nor should he have the power to do so! something this big should be decided by the american people and only by the people, not by a fool!
June 16th, 2009 at 6:49 am
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June 16th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Good I completely support this legislation.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Ok, well let quit talking about it and figure out a place to meet if it all goes down, I am not giving up my weapons to anyone and I will do my best to take anyone down trying to take them from me. There is a civil war coming, and its going to be one sided…I know a lot of police officers and military people that will defend their right. After all, you can be imprisoned if the government that put the laws in effect is gone.
If that’s too much for people, then let’s figure out a better way to communicate to our government of our wishes before it’s too late.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
i’m coming for your guns, and there’s nothing you can do!! muhuwahahahaha!!!
June 16th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
I have read most all of the above. just remember these few things. joeseph stolin came into power py murdering about 30million of his own people. He did it in the winter by shuting off the life saving things such as heating oil,,,diesel,,,gasoline,,,electric,,,, no food go to the people,,, No heat,,,No transportation,,,can’t get around,,,can’t fight,,,Just scream out and die.
Watch what obama and the world health organization does to the world population with the swine flue VACINATIONS, manditory for every one on earth. His people will get water in the shot and people like this web site will get a dose of what it takes to KILL YOU. Why do you think obama has completly blown this swine flue pandemic thing out of porportion.
Every dictator comes up with ways to murder millions and millions of the opisition right off the get go. Mulit national troops will have no problem mass murdering as many Americans as posible for the cause they have been brainwashed to think.
They will probably use shock wbombs that only kill people and leave the houses in tact. Then all you have to do is haul the trash off and move in. I think you get the IDEA. What ever it is it won’t be a gun fight . So screw all your dumb assed GUN CRAP.
I am not a lib. and I will fight to my death to defend my family and my neighbors and the GREATEST country on earth.
Remember this, God says in the Bible —–one world gov. will come to pass,,, and it will. Be a saved born agin christian and bring your family with you when you leave this earth. Check out the leviathan in the book of jobe. Can you fight aginst this,,,,laviathan. NO!!! Good day, Brad
June 16th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
I m happy to turn in my guns
BULLETS first
June 17th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Barack Obama is an Elitist who thinks those of us who disagree with him are bitter and clinging to our religion and our guns. I am proud to cling to my Bible and my guns, but not because I am bitter, because I am American. Because I am a Christian and a Patriot.
June 17th, 2009 at 10:26 am
They can have my whiskey when they pry it from my shaking stoned hand!
I’m sorry I thought we were talking about the 18th ammendment.
So, who’s gonna march on Washington packin’ and demand to be heard?
Also glad to know there are so many military people out there that don’t believe in the chain of command and respect for your superiors (rank wise), did you all whine so much when some general you never saw told you to do something?
June 17th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
HR 2159 Seeks To Disarm Individuals The Government Suspects Of Being Terrorists.
I have to laugh at this one. WHY? Because the government can go to every door in this country and take ever weapon from every American in this country BUT that dumb ass in the oval office fails to think…..IF A TERRORIST WANTS A WEAPON HE WILL GET IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER…..There is an old saying…..WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY.
And DISARMING THE CITIZENS OF THIS CUNTRY IS A PURE AND SIMPLE WAY OF VIOLATING MY/OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BEAR/HAVE ARMS.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
This is disgusting. You people had the chance to vote someonelse in and you were captured by his carrisma and voted BHO into office. He is running around the world say not nice things about America that I could scream. It he is saying all our troops died for nothing I will never say a prayer for him. I don’t care if its touch and go. I agree some of the Constitution must be changed and updated, but 2nd Amend. is not one of them. Close the loop holes in all the other laws. Get people to pay their overdue taxes. Start hanging people again in the town square. No more 20 years of being on death row. You want to cut services, start with the convicts, then the people who owe the gov’t money (taxes). Have welfare work to clean up the freeways….others to plants tree’s and plants. Come on and get moving. We are going downhill, just as Great Britain, Rome, Greece, and others. Open your eyes America….we are going down the tubes! I live not far from a prison. I am not going to go down without a fight should another riot breaks out. They will hit the dirt before I will.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
I would be proud to stand with other americans and fight to the death to protect the fundamental values to which this country was founded on. Does that make me a terrorist? or a patriot?
June 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Most all previous governments of history became corrupt.
Do not expect yours to be any different.
America-for and by the corporations and rich?
A true patriot is the bad guy at first;almost surely to be labeled as a domestic terrorist; taking up an unpopular or even unlawfull idea or action. Most people wont take on the role of being the bad guy but when the bad guys idea is realized as a good thing and the suffering has already been born by the true patriot, The people who waited for it to be safe to proclaim the idea as a good one, then puff out their chests and claim to be patriots.To little to late!
The 2nd amendment is the protectorate of all other rights granted by the constitution!
Dont let the government nibble way at this most imprtant right!
I believe the word infringe to be a most important one-Fringe =outermost edge=no nibbling!!!
If the gov. wants to make a law let it be that any information pertaining to me not be given to anyone, especially non-Americans!
The cost to disarm the American people will be in blood.
There are many rifles but this one is mine!
June 17th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
just proves this bat wants total power!
June 17th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
All I have to say is I’m sorry. I voted for Obama because I thought he was the lesser of two evils but he was just a better speaker. Two bad we couldn’t go back in time.
June 17th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
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June 19th, 2009 at 4:59 am
to “Purple Pig” and others:
there are other options than just Democratic and Republican – the next election take a look at the third party options.
My vote went to Libertarian candidate Bob Barr — keep the federal government out of people’s lives, let people live the way they want as long as it doesn’t hurt or infringe on another human. Sounds like a good plan to me.
June 19th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Interesting comments all. We’ll see how this all works out if it indeed does come to fruition; Patriots will be separate from the rest, as the stress and strife press the mettle of some.
I think the more interesting questions would be to ask Why ? and Whom shall be held accountable ? We can speculate on the intentions of another, but all for naught.
Those of you on the right side of things will most likely be provided an opportunity prove your sincerity, those who aren’t will be fodder for me and the rest….
Our Founding Fathers have already laid this issue to rest, I swore an oath to defend my country from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and the heart of a soldier is the heart of a soldier.
Rangers Lead the Way
June 19th, 2009 at 10:40 am
If your interested, Clintons PDD 25 (Link below) is what started all of this… Here it is…
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/pdd25.htm
June 19th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
2010 – VOTE OUT ALL POLITICIANS who favor international gun control. Run for office if no good opponent has announced.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
It is time to return to individual liberties, sovereign states, the Fair Tax, less government, less regulation, and time for a new American party: Why not call it the Constitutionalist Party.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
You chicken shiet people are a hoot. If you ever came up against a real card carrying, dues paying liberal – you’d crap your pants so fast you’s dragass.
None of you are real patriots.
Crapheads not parrottheads.
grab your ears with Thumb and Index Finger
and
JERK
The plop you heard was your head coming out of your colon.
June 20th, 2009 at 8:02 am
I have read the material presented with interest and horror. I agree wih the comments. Obama should be removed from office. I doubt that he is even an American Citizen. The damage he can do if he remains in office is beyond description. I will be 85 years old in July and am a veteran of WW2. I have studied Political Science and Economics. I doubt if Obama has.
June 20th, 2009 at 8:08 am
How does this guy find the time to unravel all of the logical idea that this country and our freedom is based on. He must be getting outside help.
June 20th, 2009 at 10:41 am
The only bloodless way to take the country back and send a clear message to all politicians is to NEVER vote for an incumbent!In fact vote 3rd party, you may think your vote wont count, but it will also send a very clear message.American politics can be summarized as follows, The Democrats freely admit to being socialistic in word and deed; The Republicans lie to us and say they are not socialist, but their actions betray their agenda.
June 20th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
I have been concerned about this person since he was a Chicago Machine Legislator and his unusual rise to fame. His purchase of the Presidency was not surprising. His dogma was not surprising either It was simply terrifying. His steps taken to the throne he now occupies is not unlike that of Adolf Hitler. As a Socialist he has taken a page out of Karl Marx teachings. With his mesmerizing gift of eloquent speech, he has created a “mass hysteria” environment. No one questions his motives, promotions and actions. His word is somehow gospel…. a litany of deceit.There is no doubt that he is ambitious and is working hard, but just who is he working for? So many unknowns so many haunting catch-phrases. We do not even know the truth of his birth. He is abve reproach.
His blatent abuse of The Constitution is sickening, and he was a Constitutional scholar at Harvard.
The Second Amendment is a precious right and valueable beyond belief. Without the Second Amendment, none of the other Rights afforded by out founders means anything. They are all expendable with out the right of the Freeman to be armed. We are also afforded in those words to form a well regulated militia. This is without a doubt to defend our nation and lifestyles against all enemies both foreign and domestic.
To all of my brothers-in-arms, we veterans, active duty and reserves have all taken an oath. Remember, “to protect and defend the Contitution and the United States of America against ALL enemies bit FOREIGN and DOMESTIC!” “So help us God”
I still honor that oath. I am willing to stand up to tyranny. Any person attempting to disarm me will be regarded as an enemy regardless of knowledge to me. I hope that I will not be standing alone.
“Be afraid of the government that is afraid of your Guns!”
Because any Government that is big enough to give you everything you want…. is also big enough to take away everything you have!
June 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Vote them all out of office, lets start over. And to all you Jar Heads out there your not the only ones who know how to handle an M1 & M60, Go Seabees.
June 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Why is it that some have to try to confuse the little minds out there with a bunch of big words. It is very simple. Take away our right to defend ourselves, and we become slaves to the government. Read the history books. Only a fool would believe that taking guns away from lawful owners is going to curb crime. Read about post-ban Australia. Read lazy liberals and know what you are writing about before you waste space on this blog.
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:37 am
Pay careful attention to the wording. How there is any confusion as to the intent of our forefathers regarding the Second Amendment is beyond me. “A well-regulated militia (comma) being necessary to the security of a free state (comma) the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”. It does not say, “A well-regulated people, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the MILITIA to keep and bear arms……”. It is stating that in order to avoid a police state, a country’s people must be armed. They understood that this would keep government honest. They understood that this would allow citizens to protect their lives and property. Do you honestly believe that they felt an amendment was necessary to ensure that our military could have guns?? What military in the world is UNarmed, for goodness sake? Do you think that these guys were sitting around a table and one of them said, “Hey, we need to make that next one ’bout makin’ sure our military can have guns”. Are we a gun culture? Indeed we are. Are we the freest nation in the land? Indeed we are. Do lawful gun owners account for a measurable number of violent crimes in this country? Absolutely not. Has gun control in other countries greatly reduced the violent crime rate? Quite the contrary. As for a viable argument against individual firearm ownership, possession, and use within the United States, there simply is none. Period.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
All Americans must stand together to protect our second amandment. Our new, wet behind the ears, President is moving very swiftly, hoping we will miss exactly what he is very methodically doing to our Country. From illegal aliens, to takeover of businesses, to rendering our Constitutional rights useless, he is moving on with his agenda. Muslims will soon overtake our population, and he is paving the way.
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
i am 71 years old and i have enough hand gun ammo to stand off and shoot an sob who tries to take it, i am old enough i really don’t give a damn anymore, when they took the word GOD away from our schools and pubilc goverment buildings this pissed me off, if you all who do not want the word god used go live in another country we don’t want you here, drag your as out of here and go line in iran you deserve each other, and leave my guns alone,
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Save a foriegn attack, I think there is too much hysteria here. YES, the whittling of the Second is horrifying. WE need to elect those that believe in it. But an all out assault by US Govt on our weapons will NOT occur. Why?
Read some of the previous Vets’ statements. I think not many ACTIVE troops would follow an order as such. (I hope!)
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:47 am
First off, the United States of America is a Democratic-REPUBLIC, not a simple democracy. Democracies are volatile and devolve into mob rule fairly quickly. D-Republics always survive if their respective constitution is CONSTANTLY FOLLOWED.
Secondly, most spelling and/or grammatical errors are caused by typing in the dark or a bad keyboard like mine. Or not wanting to open up a dictionary or Word every time you want to respond. (I wrote this in Word, so the errors are spell-checker’s fault.) So stop insulting one another about grammatical conventions and MOVE ON.
It scares me that so many of you liberals won’t pay attention to what is happening in the world today, and what happened in the past. However, it is not surprising since the sound principles of government and economics ceased to be taught in 1900. So it’s the fault of your liberal education. How did we get out of the Great Depression? Not by FDR’s so-called “New Deal!” That made it last longer! (He also removed the gold and silver standards, paving the way to today’s inflation.) World War Two got us out of the Depression by making new jobs and taking people out of the regular workforce. So if you or Dear Leader Obama thinks you can “Neo-Deal” your way out of this RECESSION, you are gravely mistaken.
Conservatives are (usually) not fascists! Liberals seem to forget that most fascist dictatorships are SOCIALIST! (Think Nazi party) If anything, conservatives lean towards ANARCHY!
To you people that hate America, get the hell out of my country, which just so happens to be the BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, BAR NONE! Look at the USA, and then look at any other country. Are their citizens as rich and happy as the average American? Are they as free?
Why does America need to care or even want to placate and please other nations? If they don’t like us, that’s their problem, not ours. We don’t need the approval of Kazakhstan to build our own products in our own country.
Now for the main issue at hand…
The second amendment was, as were all principles of the Constitution, designed to protect the PEOPLE from the GOVERNMENT! A government exists to SERVE the people, not use them as ATMs. As Justin said, the wording is key. So it is with all other principals of the Constitution. Your argument is that if a law says no one can buy, use, or own a gun, the criminals wont be able to get one. Criminals break laws. Or else they wouldn’t be criminals. And, if no law abiding CITIZEN owns a gun for self-defense, the criminals will be able to take whatever they want. Who does a mugger rob? A police officer on payday or a little old lady after cashing her Socialist Security check? Unless little old lady has a .44 magnum (or any other gun) strapped to her hip, its going to be a sad day for granny. Your argument then, dear liberal friends, is null and void. Unless you like criminals in the house you owned until they took it from you because you couldn’t defend it with vaguely grand words about a peaceful resolution and a one world govornment. Yes, there are people who shouldn’t own guns. Yes, there are insane rednecks who hoard guns like a toddler hoards chocolate. And yes, some people use guns to kill other people. But those people are usually locked up in prison, a mental institute, or live very far away from everyone else. They make up 2 percent of gun owners. Should the majority be punished because a minority screwed up?
Anyone who has a problem with my position, or just wants to debate with me, send me an e-mail at canalanthefirst@yahoo.com. Please keep it civil.
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:47 am
We need to write our Senators and urge them not to ratify this treaty but make sure to make them aware that if they betray us and ratify it that there will be consequences: ie they will be voted out of office in the next election. We need to urge the Senate also to begin immediate investigation of the Obama Administration (all of ‘em) for corruption, abuse of power and breach of contract (ie: he violates his oath of office to uphold and defend the Constitution on a daily basis) and then impeach him, throw him out of office (or better, into a federal prison for 99 to life without the possibility of parole). We also need to get the U.S. to withdraw from the United Nations and expell the United Nations from American soil. Dark times are ahead if fail to stop this would-be Emperor from his endgame of a socialist-marxist nanny state we are. Barack Obama, Joseph Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein and all others like them need to be evicted from Capital Hill now or at the earliest possible moment. Oh heck, just fire every last Senator and Congressmen. Clean sweep.
God save the Republic.
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Dumbfounded:
In as much as God limited the intelligence of man, it seems unfair He did not also limit mankinds stupidity.
I can back it up scripturally.
I am not arrogant for thinking and/or proclaiming that the USA is the greatest nation on the planet. That is pride, love, and respect given to those who died to keep me and my great nation free. Free from all the blubbering garbage that seems to flow from the minds that have written things just like what you have. How sad that you think your nation is great, but you don’t have the balls to proclaim it to the rest of us. I can not think of a single person that went to the Olympics and didn’t take all that pride with them. Each nation went there with love and hopes of succeeding to show the rest of the world how great there nation is. If you love your nation (which I do believe is one of great importance in history – and of culture) the there is no harm in saying so.
As someone said in a previous posting – paraphrased here “Intellegence is not knowledge, but the imagination that uses that knowledge.” You obviously have an education, but your education has limited you your imagination in so much as allowing you to stand in the shoes of other men. You think you know how things should be according to what you parents, teachers, and government have taught you for years. And even if you studied abroad, you still haven’t allowed your imagination to see things from all sides. I see where our way of life (US) affects other nations, and many times I would aggree with you about our governments noses being in places where they have no invitation. And while you may see an affect on your way of life by the choices made here in America, we still have every right to make the choices that best serve us. You may call that selfish, arrogant, and greedy…I call it my Constitutional Right for Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness. If you don’t like it, come over to American, become a citizen and do something about the same way we do.
Ray in Ohio
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
The young people, the uneducated people, and the dreamers are the ones who voted for Obama. They know nothing of work, sacrifice, religion, and of course nothing about history or the importance of the constitution. If you have ever watched Jay Leno do his “jaywalking” episodes you know that most people interviewed could not identify our senators or representatives by pictures of them. America has been dumbing down for years now. Despite the influx of billions of educational dollars provided by lotteries and overtaxed citizens paying school tax, the education given is wrong in many instances…or worse, absent. I think Obama’s election is a perfect example of “the blind shall lead the blind and all will fall in the ditch”. Obama is a chameleon! He is not as he presents himself. He is in bed with the enemies of America and he is grabbing power in a way never seen by the American people. We have much more to fear than the 2d Amendment. We need to begin an underground movement to organize our own protection against this administration. Let’s not be like we were when Pearl Harbor was attacked. We have slept too long. Put out the word to everyone. America must be reclaimed by those of us who love her. We cannot wait..we cannot sleep, and we cannot ignore this threat. It will come into our lives and destroy us all if we are complacent. God Bless America and the patriots who will stand together to save the nation. Count me in as one of them.
June 24th, 2009 at 2:08 am
To Ray in Ohio.
I am from New Zealand and extremely proud of it, You may know us as one of the few places in the world with the “balls” to stand up to the US and ban your nuclear warships from our ports. I never mentioned it before because up until now i wasnt asked.
My education, along with most countrymen of my generation, has indeed allowed me to learn from the past, and not be brainwashed by the radicals and fearmongers. For many years I travelled the world with my eyes wide open and seen things from both sides, it was my job to do so. I have also spent several years in your country, which has allowed me to form my opinion. I absolutely agree that you have a right to be proud of your country, but I dont agree that you have a right to force that opinion on others who may not feel the same. Many, many people from my country, including some of those close to me, have also died fighting for my freedom and on April 25 every year, along with Australia, we honour those people with pride and respect. Our people often fight, and die, alongside your people but unlike the US we are not a target for radicals and crazies because we are known as quiet achievers. We are quiet, we achieve and wherever possible we leave the dignity of the innocent intact. Sadly the US cannot say the same.
I have guns, my government knows i’ve got them and I have no fear of loosing them, despite restrictions on owning MSSA’s. I hunt, I fish, I ski, I enjoy an outdoor’s lifestyle with my family, I have Life, Liberty, and Happiness, and I have no fear of my neighbour (whoever he may be). Sadly, this is changing for the worse due to the US influence on the world, and what I can’t understand is that when you finally get a president able to recognise this and move towards repairing the damage, which will ultimately improve your lifestyle, he gets branded a traitor and the lynch mob starts to gather.
There are none so blind as those who wont see.
Perhaps it is you who should move here, and learn to live in a place relatively free of fear and paranoia.
June 24th, 2009 at 7:58 am
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June 25th, 2009 at 9:06 am
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June 25th, 2009 at 11:57 am
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June 25th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I DARE THIS TO HAPPEN TO AMERICA
WE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TO RUN THE COUNTRY—VOICE OF THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE.
THIS IF WE LET IT HAPPEN—-WILL BE THE DOWN FALL OF AMERICA—-THE ONLY REASON THE USA HAS NOT BEEN ATTACKED ON OUT GROUNDS IS THE FACT THAT WE THE PEOPLE ARE ARMED AND READY —JUST AS OUR FOREFATHERS WAS——REMEMBER THE ALAMO—-ALL PEOPLE FROM OTHER STATES BACKED TEXAS—-GOD BLESS THEM—-WE CAN AND WILL DO IT AGAIN—-DON’T TREAD ON TEXAS FOR ANY REASON—THANK YOU
June 25th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
ONE SIMPLE QUESTION
WHERE WAS OBAMA BORN—MAKE IT REAL AND PUBLIC
CAN HE REALLY UNDER THE LAW RUN THIS COUNTRY—SIMPLE QUESTION
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE REAL ANSWER TO THIS—-PUBLISH THE REAL BIRTH PLACE
June 25th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
WHY DON’T THEY LEAVE US ALONE AND GO AFTER THE CRIMINALS.
June 26th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Where are the people in government that took the oath of office to defend our country and with it the constitution? I’m really concerned
June 26th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Makes me wonder even more what Obama’s agenda really is. Also if it goes back to what he was really being groomed for from the begining. TOO BRING DOWN THIS COUNTRY FROM THE INSIDE. Look where we are headed.
Think about it!!
June 26th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I was not for Obama because I knew this would happen. It seems to me that Obama really came from somewhere else and isn’t for the United States. For people who actually use guns for saftey and hunting, we all agree that it’s wrong for Obama to take away our guns. Amo is getting low, Obama probably is taking them away slowly, first our source of amo then the guns. All I can say is stay alive in your hearts, there is always hope. If there are no weapons left for war, so be it, it just means I’ll use my hands to strangle those who try to hurt my family and country. I want to personaly thank all the marines from the bottom of my heart and shake your hands for fighting for our country!!!!
June 26th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Yeah realist, you are an idiot, look what the Afgans did to the Russian army! After years of getting their butts kicked by a militia they gave up and went home with their tales tucked between their legs. Don’t think that we couldn’t do the same thing, we did it before (1776).
June 29th, 2009 at 2:06 am
To Don American:
I used to think like you do about registration and such, but even though we’re FORCED to register in about the worst state to live in, Hawaii, with it’s ridiculous gun laws; fact is, registration means someone has the ability to track down EVERY law-abiding gunowner and confiscate their weapons. They won’t be able to get the guns away from the criminals, obviously, as they won’t register their illegal weapons. So, where does that leave us? Screwed, big time! Many think the libs won’t take away our guns; well, they sure have a funny way of showing it and they’re making it as difficult as possible with their backdoor approaches of wanting to serialize casings, etc. How exactly is that going to reduce crime or make it easier for police to find the criminals? Heck, go to a gun range and pick up a few empty serialized casings and plant it when you, the criminal, goes and commits a crime; now the police KNOW who did it… the guy whose serials are on the casings…. yeah, right!
By the way, I don’t know of any registration system preventing school shootings, etc. Frankly, if schools weren’t designated “gun-free”, many students and faculty lives could’ve been saved as I understand that in the VA Tech shootings, many people had their legal guns locked in their vehicles (in accordance with the law) but the shooter didn’t… if these people were allowed to carry concealed on the school grounds, could someone perhaps have taken the shooter out before he killed so many? Could this have been done at Columbine H.S.? What about the church in Colorado Springs; if a church security volunteer hadn’t been armed legally with a firearm, how many hundreds of church-goers would’ve been killed as the perp had hundreds of rounds of ammo with him? Yes, not even a CHURCH is safe from the criminal element bent on killing people. Funny how criminals KNOW that “gun-free zones” means that only THEY will have guns so they can wield their havoc at will…..
June 29th, 2009 at 2:19 am
Dumbfounded says that the non-threatening countries aren’t targeted by terrorists, etc…. let’s see, Britain has banned firearms and yet they got hit by terrorists, not to mention their crime rate sucks… Hmm… I had heard that Australia’s victim crimes have dramatically increased since they banned firearm ownership…. funny, I “did the math” and it’s not agreeing with Dumbfounded… perhaps that’s why he/she is “dumbfounded”… or just plain dumb…
June 29th, 2009 at 2:49 am
Jim,
I don’t think it’s a question of where Obama was born; he was born in Hawaii, but the real question is where his parents were born. Unless I’m mistaken, unless both parents were American citizens, he couldn’t even run for the office of President. Hawaii’s DOH apparently has that information but won’t release it. They’ll issue a “certification of live birth” which says when/where he was born and the name of the parents, but nothing to indicate whether they were citizens or not. Hawaii also has a “certificate of live birth” which has information such as what State the birth parents were born in. If his father was not born in the U.S., it should disqualify Obama from being President. But then, Hawaii is a Democratic stronghold and heck, most of the people in State/Local government there are Democrats… what did we expect?
June 29th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Hey REALIST,
You obviously aren’t a student of US history. The second amendment was aimed at all US citizens. Thomas Jefferson said, ” The constitutions of most our states and of the United States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press.”
Get it right and quit acting like a socialist commie like BHO and his cronies in Congress.
June 30th, 2009 at 1:40 am
Garfy Fuch.
Do your research man. Britian got “hit” because of Tony Blair’s relationship with George Bush. “Lie down with dogs and you’re gonna get fleas”
You are correct, some Australian crime rates have been rising, assualts have climbed from 623 per 100,000 in 1996 to 840 per 100,000 in 2007. Doesnt take a gun to assault someone and since Australians never had the right to carry hand guns in public in the first place they were never part of the equation. Most assaults occured in the home (i.e. domestic violence) and on the street outside pubs and night clubs late at night where most people dont actually carry rifles and such, so once again firearm ownership has little bearing on this. I would encourage you to visit this site http://www.aic.gov.au/topics/violence/stats/ to “get the facts”, but as someone else has said here, “why let the facts get in the way of a good story” or in this case “paranoid hysteria”
June 30th, 2009 at 3:50 am
Here’s an article from the Atlanta Journal Constitution, written by Libertarian candidate Bob Barr, concerning gun control:
http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/06/29/watch-lists-guns-and-government/?cxntfid=blogs_bob_barr_blog
Dems and Republicans should all be voted out of office if you ask me.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:12 am
I watched the video, read through the CIFTA, and every single blog comment on here. HOOAH to all who feel that this treaty and all socialist actions of our government are now for the best interest of the enemy, NOT the USA! To those of you “Realist” “Dumbfounded” and other lost souls who do not understand the severity of what is being done, GET OUT! You sure as hell aren’t PATRIOTS and you don’t deserve to be AMERICANS. Find a pansy country that likes pansies and move there you liberal pricks. Bill A. W. wrote: “No one is going to separate the Obama supporters from the anti-Obama patriots. They are going to be just as dead as many of us will be.” Those words are the construct of what will be our second civil war…that will evolve into WWIII when other nations step in to try and save us from destroying ourselves. Americans are divided and therein lies the problem, “UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.” We are losing sight of what we stood for. We are becoming what we once hated. We are becoming the enemy. “We need change” blow it out your ass! Ellen Yates posted: “It is time to return to individual liberties, sovereign states, the Fair Tax, less government, less regulation, and time for a new American party: Why not call it the Constitutionalist Party.” I think this is a great idea but the powers that be will never allow it. Sure you could try, but whenever, whomever got into office they would be assassinated (by our own government). We are corrupt and like every other democracy that has ever existed, we too shall fail. I grew up on a farm in southwest Wisconsin, the community there is much the same way as it used to be 30 years ago, aside from the fact that we now have internet. We like it here and you are NOT welcome. America is still strong here and we have NOT gotten lost in the smoke and mirrors that seem to have corrupted your minds and hearts. Some people believe that “the pen is mightier than the sword”…I disagree. Michelle wrote, “If there are no weapons left for war, so be it, it just means I’ll use my hands to strangle those who try to hurt my family and country.” Remember that war used to be fought with the blade…if we run out of ammunition it will be again. I also read numerous posts of individuals who are stock piling ammunition. Load your own and make them hot rounds. (re sight arms to adjust for the “reach out and touch somebody rounds”) You will save yourselves a shit ton of cash instead of going to the store to buy Federal or Western ammo with state and federal imposed taxes. To all that have fought for our country I applaud you! When you did your tours there was a reason for it. I cannot say the same for what our soldiers are doing now. They are serving their country but for whom? Who is pulling the strings and for what cause? First pull our troops out, set up command forts on the boarders of our country and get ready for the row boats/dilapidated sea vessels (whatever those dirt bags can scrounge up) to show up and blow them out of the water. Do you honesty think that our government (Obama and friends) will be able to diplomatically fix a HOLY WAR as old as mankind? That thinking is absolutely preposterous. It cannot be done, we are different people with different callings. EQUAL BUT DIFFERENT…do you get it? Ron Olson posted, “Barack Obama is an Elitist who thinks those of us who disagree with him are bitter and clinging to our religion and our guns. I am proud to cling to my Bible and my guns, but not because I am bitter, because I am American. Because I am a Christian and a Patriot.” I couldn’t agree more…
June 30th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Hey Armed to the Teeth,
AMEN Brother! Our nation is so screwed up right now because of people taking things out of context and picking & choosing events, statistics, etc. to suit their needs. The travesty of the 1st amendment’s interpretation is but one of the problems; for some reason, I don’t see “separation of Church and State” anywhere in it. And unlike the foolish who similarly say they can’t find the world “rapture” in the Bible, well, they’re looking at the wrong translation… try the Latin version. The bottom line is we’re the only nation in the world that has guaranteed its citizens the right to arm themselves. It’s what keeps our nation free from becoming a dictatorship, although BHO and his cohorts obviously want to do that before his term is over. As for those who are opposed to gunowners and call America a spiteful, hateful country, well, as you said, LEAVE! Perhaps Iran or Pakistan will suit them better.
God Bless all; yes even those who don’t believe!
July 1st, 2009 at 12:59 am
Armed to the Teeth…. I thought you read all the posts!, you obviously missed the one which said I am not an American nor live in the US. Realist, Don American, Voice of Reason and whoever else able to see through the bullshit here, keep up the good work. To the rest of you I have only one further comment, You’re just a bunch of Radical F**kwits that will implode into yourselves should the shit ever hit the fan.
July 3rd, 2009 at 8:11 am
Dumbfounded…apparently I did miss your comment about not being an AMERICAN. I’m happy about that, for I do not believe you could understand what it is that Americans are so upset about. You wouldn’t understand unless you saw how our nation is changing. It’s not that New Zealand isn’t beautiful…IT IS! Absolutely untainted by the rest of the world; and furthermore one of the only paradises left. I have been there and it’s absolutely amazing. I do not wish to belittle you or your nation. However, YOU have no clue what Obama’s mission is, and the rest of our nation doesn’t either. He says one thing and does another. It’s scary to see an individual who does not share our ideals and values lead our great nation. Dumbfounded wrote: “I have guns, my government knows I’ve got them and I have no fear of loosing them.” Well that’s great…you like the right to own your weapons don’t you? Obama is trying diligently to take that right away from us. This is not a plan to register weapons so everyone knows where they are…the CIFTA is just part of the plan to take them away. As with every other government in the world there are hidden agendas. Which we as citizens have no control over. My sister studied abroad in London when the terrorist attacks of 9/11 occured. Petrified, she loaded up her “needed” belongings and headed to the embassy. When she arrived, a crowd of individuals were cheering around it. England has a right to hate us because we kicked their asses for trying to rule us. How many had to die before they finally tucked tail and swam home. DON’T THINK FOR A SECOND THAT WITHOUT THE U.S.A the world would be a better place. YOU WOULD BE A FOOL! Just think about what the world would be like had we NOT gotten involved in WWII? How many people would have been exterminated? Don’t tell me that Hitler wouldn’t have thought about a nice bungalow in New Zealand. The whole world would be different…and don’t you forget it! I think for the most part America tries to be the peacekeeper of the world. Would the U.N save your precious New Zealand if a hoard of angry bastards invaded your country? NO…they would stand and watch you take a machete to the head. America would help you in a heart beat…and you know it! You and your family have nothing to worry about. No one is trying to kill and destroy New Zealand. You hate our government, not Americans and yet you call us radicals and fear mongers. Dumbfounded wrote: “I have Life, Liberty, and Happiness, and I have no fear of my neighbour (whoever he may be). Sadly, this is changing for the worse due to the US influence on the world.” I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Apparently you believe that the US is making your life less desirable. That the place your were born in is changing directly because of what “we” have done. If that’s the case then welcome to my world because everything is changing here too! NOT FOR THE BETTER I MIGHT ADD! I come from a family of farmers. We embrace GOD, FAMILY, and FRIENDS. That’s it…GOD, FAMILY and FRIENDS! Our goal in life is to be happy and love and care for those around us. Is this NOT an ideal that you share in New Zealand? How does this make me a radical when I see my government doing shit that I cannot and will not tolerate? And now for the rest of your ridiculous statement: “and what I can’t understand is that when you finally get a president able to recognize this and move towards repairing the damage, which will ultimately improve your lifestyle, he gets branded a traitor and the lynch mob starts to gather.” There is no way that I can even muster a reply to this because it’s gibberish. Know what you are talking about before you open your pie hole.
July 3rd, 2009 at 8:18 am
FOR GARFY FUCH…there is NO separation between church and state for me. Anyone with a brain knows that this great nation’s ideals were founded in one simple sentence. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL! You have the right of freedom of religion…BUT OUR NATION IS CHRISTIAN! You have to wonder what GOD thinks about the shit storm that is brewing down here? hehehe!
July 3rd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Armed to the teeth…
I had withdrawn from this rediculous debate but your comments deserve a rebuttal..
Our world is changing for the worse because of the actions of the US and the voilence it encourages. We can’t even take a commercial flight from one end of our own country to the other without having to go thru draconian security checks imposed by your FAA. I can’t take my cessna on a simple 30 minute flight without filing a flight plan 2 days in advance to be approved by our CAA in Wellington. This is in direct response to 9/11, and a directive of the US govt, apparently theyre scared i might fly it into a building. There are numerous restrictions in my daily life imposed as a direct result of US security concerns. It’s creating fear and paranoia, and dramatic rises in violent crime. As a nation we are not used to this, dont need it and not pleased with it. If you werent so bloody unpopular in the world we wouldnt be suffering from the fall out of your cock ups. And don’t even get me started on WW2. It staggers me to think that you pricks still believe that you “won” the war, when all you did was get dragged in kicking and screaming at the closing stages to help mop up. Check your own history, your actually not that good at winnning” wars, even when you fight amongst yourselves.
Your question “Would the U.N save your precious New Zealand if a hoard of angry bastards invaded your country?” YES, they would. We are a highly regarded member of the security council, there are a number of New Zealanders holding high profile positions within the UN (Our last Prime Minister, Helen Clark, holds the third most powerful position). We provide peace keeping forces all over the world in all sorts of conflicts, including mopping up US messes from illegal wars.
You are right to a degree, I don’t hate Americans, I have american friends and I have family living there, but I don’t hate your govt either. What I hate is arrogance, and you lot are swimming in it, so don’t give me any of your sanctimonious, holier than thou shit and tell me to shut my pie hole.
As to your reliance on God, Pray in one hand and Shit in the other, see which gets fillled first. Actions of man produces results, good and bad, and burying your head in the sandbag of religion isnt going to help you.
One thing is apparent in all of this, you are blind to the rest of the world and the impact you have on it, you might have been here but you apparently didnt see anything. Yes we have a beautiful country, we are proud of it and we damn well want to keep it that way, and if that means not joining in the games of the biggest war mongers on the planet then so be it. I have nothing further to add to this forum without getting personal so my final comment is that I will agree to disagree and leave you to wallow in your own shit.
July 3rd, 2009 at 7:07 pm
I am an Honorably Discharged U.S. Navy 3rd Class Boatswains Mate & Assault Boat Caxswain – Vietnam Veteran (1972 – 1975).
It is our solemn duty to remove Obama and the other Traitors (regardless of Party) in our government per the following paragraph as written by Thomas Jefferson in our Declaration of Independence:
“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
Here are some historical facts on the meaning of the Second Amendment; facts that the “self-proclaimed”
Constitutional Scholar Obama should have known:
The meaning behind the intent of the amendment is not difficult to discover. The founding fathers can speak for themselves.
“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” – Second Amendment
“On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the
Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p322
What is the Purpose of the Amendment? To defend Liberty from the transgressions of OUR OWN government by confirming the right of the people to possess arms.
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” – Thomas Jefferson
“To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them…” – Richard Henry Lee, Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic (1787-1788)
“As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might prevent their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” – Tench Coxe in “Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution.” Under the pseudonym “A Pennsylvanian” in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789
“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops…” – Noah Webster, “An Examination into the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution” (1787)
“To disarm the people (is) the best and most effectual way to enslave them…” – Geroge Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380
“Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence…” – Geroge Washington, first President of the United States, and “the Father of our Country”
What is the Militia?
“The right of the people to keep and bear…arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country…” – James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789)
“A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves…and include all men capable of bearing arms.” – Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer (1788) at 169
“What, sir, is the use of the militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of
liberty.” – Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress at 750 (August 17, 1789)
“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.” – Geroge Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426
Is the Second Amendment a State or individual right?
“The Constitution shall never be construed…to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.” – Samuel Adams, Debates & Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87
“The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.” – Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-188
“The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.” – Patrick Henry, 3 Elliot, Debates at 386
“Arms in the hands of citizens [may] be used at individual discretion…in private self-defense…” – John Adams, A Defense of the Constitutions of the Government of the USA, 471 (1788)
“The right of the people to keep and bear arms has been recognized by the General Government; but the best security of that right after all is, the military spirit, the taste for martial exercise, which has always distinguished the free citizens of these States… Such men form the best barrier to the liberties of America.” – Gazette of the United States, October 14, 1789
Obama is a Media Whore, an Intellectual Prostitute, a Marxist to his very core; whose one and ONLY original thought was that of sucking on his Mother’s nipple upon birth in Kenya. He and most of the other members of both Houses of Congress should be arrested and tried for Treason. They all placed their hands on the Holy Bible and took an Oath and Affirmation to Support and Defend the Constitution of these United States. They all have blatantly and willfully violated that sacred honor that, “We The People” bestowed upon them. As far as I am concerned, they are more of a danger to our country, our way of life, our future and that of our children and their children; than any invading army, the Taliban, or Al Qaida.
It is now time to take of the kid gloves!
July 5th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
I must agree with all those writing before me. It seems the older I get the More I see our rights going away. My Father was in World War 1. My older brothers were in the second War. I’m glad they can’t see what they fought for. But where are all the voters ? Are we truly that far gone that there is no outcry. It’s just not the gun issue here it’s all our fredoms.
I’m glad I am this old I might not see the end to all this but our Great country will fall…..
July 6th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Didn’t Obama say during his campaign, something to the effect, that the constitution was “inherently flawed?”
July 7th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
THE FIRST ARTICLE IN OUR CONSTITUTION DISALLOWS ABAMA TO BE OUR PRESIDENT. HE WAS NOT BORN IN THE CONTNENTAL STATES. THAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE FIRST ARTICLE TO PREVENT ENGLISH-BRITISH-FRENCH-BORN, ETC., FROM BECOMING A US PRESIDENT.
GIL BROWN
July 8th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Im 29 and it seems to me that all our god given rights are being challenged. It also seems to me that our troops are never fighting for freedom because when they fight for freedom they fight for the freedom of other courtries. We are slowly getting our freedom taken away and it will come to a point where we just have to agree to be a VICTIM. And can i say one more thing, all those little college bastards that voted for obama don’t have any idea what they have done and I hope their little game of follow the leader put the outcome of this mistake in their laps.
July 9th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Guns that are a problem in this country are those that are illegally obtained in the first place. There are more than enough laws about guns for legitimate owners. The Columbine students broke 22 gun laws…more gun control laws would not and cannot lower the illegal use of guns.
July 10th, 2009 at 7:35 am
The people will finally get tired and clean house,the politicians have every right to be afraid. Why are the shelves bare of ammo? Come with all dispatch B. Travis
July 10th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Guns are only one thing in the string of non American activities for Barry Soetoro AKA Barrack Hussein Obama. I will not go into all his escapades except to tell you some of his activities have been felonious. Hey guys and gals Let’s have him incarcerated. With all the data and information he has had before him in this first half year, we cannot allow him to leave the states. Legal restrictions must be filed against him for the present and more high powered lawyers are needed to work with Dr. Orly Taitz, who has a very good law suit filed and on the calendar to force Obama to unseal his documents he should have done before the election. You can see what Dr Taitz is doine at http://www.orlytaitzesq.com
July 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
i may be old (nam 59-60) but i still know how. have all my gear, my go to hell bag, im ready, but my only fear is i might be to old to get a piece of it. i still put a168 in the :X: at 600.
July 10th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
OUTRAGEOUS!!!! We need to impeach this idiot before he does any more damage to our Constitutional rights!
July 10th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Outrageous!!!
July 10th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
I believe it’s time for me to write to Governor Strickland and every member of the Ohio House and Senate, demanding that cessation from the Union be introduced as a formal resolution.
Its time has come.
July 11th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Realist;
Did you ever hear how a hand full of Jews held an entire German regiment at bay for several weeks with just a few weapons, it was in the Warsaw Ghetto. Maybe you should start reading past history and you will see how when gun right were taken away from the populas the tyrany began. You liberal mush heads just don’t understand what will happen if all of the BO agendas takes place, get your head out of the sand.
July 11th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Let ‘em come. I’m locked and loaded. No foriegn or domestic SOB is taking my guns. They can have mine when I go through the front door feet first in a body bag. Screw ‘em.
July 12th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
@ gil..
berg (in berg v. obama) would have raised that issue had he been able to do so..
the real issue here is that the main stream media never brought that issue to the fore so the people could demand the “vault” birth certificate and not be sidetracked by an obviously phoney “birth record”..
obama is following the alinsky bible for taking the government over..
as to the issue of gun ownership, everyone who has a weapon should be at least familiar with guerrilla warfare as practiced world wide now and in the American Revolution..
are any of the readers familiar with the book “PATRIOTS” by James W. Rawles..?
if not you should read it now..
the american economy has been damaged by the government efforts rather than stabilized..
never send a liberal socialist to do the work of a real conservative.. when you do you wind up with what we have now..
historically, FDR tried all these same actions to end the great depression and it was only WW-2 that finally ended it, no help from FDR..
also, for all you patriots, read “Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto” for some background..
also consider “The 5000 Year Leap: A Miracle That Changed the World” for more background on what the founders were thinking when they wrote the constitution..
and NO, i am not a shill for amazon rather i am an old american who is amazed at the slick chicago political tricks that allowed the current president to be elected..
AMAZED..
i have much more to say but it all boils down to this:
1. attend the TEA parties..
2. push for a 3 million american march on washington DC..
3. Speak up, enter politics, back good conservative candidates, carry a sign, do NOT allow indifference to be the death knell of american liberty..
i leave you with a line from the movie “True Romance” where the female lead asks:
“what do you need THAT for” referring to a really huge chrome revolver to which the male lead replies:
“it’s better to have it and not need it than to need it and not HAVE it”..
July 12th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Guns what guns? Damn those memory lapses. Damn cat ate the ammo and now he’s blowing it out his butt. The government can do the same.
Guess that just means we’ll have to register and report our plastic steak knives instead.
July 13th, 2009 at 6:39 am
We need a real effective plan to change the leftist leadership in Washington DC. We need to begin organizing ourselves to start impeachment proceedings against BHO . It will take time to get him out and when he goes he will have to take Biden with him, that is the law of impeachment. Secondly, we have 16 months to change the leadership in congress. A republican dominated house will allow for a new speaker. I don’t know who that would be, but the pressure would be on republican representatives to nominate a leader for the people who started this whole process of removing the socialist liberal traitors we have now. We can do it, Obama’s popularity is plumeting fast and his true colors have made Americans cringe to the bone. It will take time to undue his damage to our country, but not all is lost if we organize now. Semper Fi…
July 13th, 2009 at 11:03 am
F**k the marxist mutt and his masters.
Pass this and “Liberal” scum will begin to die in large numbers.
It will take many expensive suits hanging along Pennsylvania Ave. to fix this mess if it can be fixed.
Don’t understand? Start here:
http://willowtown.com/promo/quotes.htm
Think globally, fight locally. Aim small, miss small. One shot, one dead “Liberal”(communist/fascist).
July 13th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
I talk occasionally (only when they meet me to face-to-face and I strive to keep some semblance of civility) to the “liberals” who elected this farce (I won’t even give him the courtesy of the title) of a megalomaniac whose sole intent and purpose is the destruction of the United States of America. Every “liberal” I’ve come in contact with is singing his praises and talking about all the “change” and “good” things that are being done. I live in a rural area where most of the people are deemed to be “conservative” yet it seems approx. half of the population in this area is in thrall to this excuse for — there are not sufficient words to convey my disgust, loathing and other negative opinions of Obama.
I stated when this demon was nominated for the Presidential election that it would be a landslide in his favor. No one believed me. I have been stating since that 2008 was the last time the United States of America would have a Presidential electon. No one believes me.
The Republican party is as bad as the Democrats — politicians want to line their own pockets and feed their delusions of grandeur and those are the only reasons they run for office. They care nothing about the people who elect them and until the American public understands and acknowledges and acts on this information, NOTHING will be changed in Washington — or at the state or local level.
All patriots and freedom lovers should be acknowledging that 95% of the American population is so entrenched in their cozy little nests that they will not sacrifice their comforts to overthrow a corrupt, worthless government. Until that love of creature comforts is overcome, things are simply going to roll downhill at a faster and faster pace.
Also, don’t forget that approx. 65% of the workforce is employed by the government (not including the military) — there are approx. 1,800 government jobs in this small county alone so surely true patriots and freedom lovers can see the odds.
July 14th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Over my cold dead body will they get my guns. Lets hope and pray it does not come to that.
When are all the people going to wake up! I know — when it is too late.
July 14th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
How many active devil dogs, jar heads, jet jockeys, merchant marines, and CG do you think will follow Hussein against patriotic Americans? Not so many, I think. Oath involves enemies both foreign and domestic. I see Hussein as a domestic enemy; although, there appears to be evidence that he could be considered foreign. Did we ever see his birth certificate?
Semper Fi!
July 14th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
All I can say is Oh My G-d!!!!!
July 14th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
America, Wake up. Obama is not an American Citizen. We need to stand up and demand he show his Birth record. When proven he is not the Pres. Everything he has done in office has to be undone. Biden would not be the Pres. Nor any of the Dems. They would have to hold another real election. It would put America in a mess for awhile but maybe that is what we need to wake us all up. I am 67 years old and I blame myself for just being so pasive for so many years. But believe me I would die for my grandchildren and g-grandchildrens right to bear arm, vote, and free speech. We are Americans. I was raised by an Irishman that worked his way on a frieghter to America and became a citizen in 6 months and was in WWII at the end. He knew what America was and what it was about.
Thanks for letting me vent. God Bless America and all our fighting men and women. We lost a 22 yr old in Iraq and he believed he was fighting for our country and he was.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Let the country fall apart…so we can put it back together again ( the way it used to be ) The illegals ( foreigners ) are already here – if they know where the guns are , they will stay away – the others are fair game. If we have no guns -all is fair game for the taking. They are getting our income and now our guns. Forget the bad guys with the towels on their head from sandland -our military will take care of them no sweat…its the hostile pretty faces here on our T.V.s, radios, colleges, and government offices that are tearing the country apart. Why’s ammo so expensive? Supply and demand and the opportunity to get rich – the gun and ammo manufacturers love Obama…dont be fooled. Oil companies found a way and now the gun people did too. I love what this country used to be -what it stands for -I served in its military for 20 years -our brave soldiers are in harms way I hope for something- I just dont really understand what is happening I suppose? Take the guns – then when we protect and fight with our fists, we’ll lose our right to bear the attached arms we were born with. Thank you Barrack -Joe – Nancy- Chavez – and the other blind citizens.
July 15th, 2009 at 12:46 am
…And why was he in Iraq? Because he was in the military and following the orders of a megalomaniac who forced an unjust and illegal war on his citizens based on the premise that Iraq had WMD’s and posed a direct threat to the citizens of the US, None of which has been proven, and you think your new president is the problem ??
July 15th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Obama is one of the most dangerous presidents we ever had. He is out to destroy America and turn the USA into a second class country like most of the Muslim controlled countries. Any person who refuses to show his birth certificate and his passport is in my book, a traitor to this country of the USA.
July 15th, 2009 at 8:05 am
I know this may seem like after the fact but, I asked everyone I could before the election why they would elect a Chicago Democrat as President.
Gun control, paybacks, lies, deceit, are all part of Illinois politics.
July 16th, 2009 at 8:10 am
This is one of the stupest things he has done.
July 16th, 2009 at 8:13 am
This is one of the stupest things he has done. He has done many stupid things. I don’t know why anyone would vote for him in the first place
July 16th, 2009 at 11:15 am
LOCK AND LOAD AMERICAN SOLIDERS OBARMA MUST GO HE IS A DISGRACE TO OUR COUNTRY HE TOOK A OATH TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION NOT SELL US OUT HE MUST BE IMPEACHED FOR TREASON OBARMA WANTS A FIGHT HE WILL GET ONE
July 16th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
as they pry the gun from my cold grey hands, they will know did not go without a fight.
July 16th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Obama is one of the most dangerous presidents we ever had. VERY TRUE!!!! He has the power and support from not only the younger generations but also that of surrounding enemy countries to DESTROY the United States of America from the INSIDE. We will become a third world country soon enough. He is destroying us financially as we speak and allowing more ILLEGAL immagrants to cross our borders and suck us dry of resources originally created for AMERICAN CITIZENS. Now he is trying to dictate our gun laws, financial institutions, American auto industries and soon even our medical insurance options will become Monopolized by the Government. We were once “ONE NATION UNDER GOD”…..now we have become One Nation Going Under…I thank GOD for our military men and women who fight and the far too many that give their lives so that my children and grandchildren will know and live in freedom…… Obama may do a lot of damage before he is finally stopped but “Freedom is just another word for Nothing left to lose!!!!!! By the Grace of God We always prevail…..
July 17th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
As a veteran who fought for our freedoms, it sickens me that we allowed this individual to take the Presidential office and muddy it. It has become extremely difficult to say what you think without being labelelled as a militant. So I will risk saying it here, If our direction doesn’t change I am going to move to Australia or New Zealand.
July 17th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Dear Patriots,
If this pig gets wings, it is most assuredly our call to arms. Actually I think we are a bit late and have let too much damage occur already.
As Thomas Jefferson once said:
“God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. …
And what country can preserve its liberties, if it’s rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure.”
Folks, these are not just words but living words!
July 17th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
ME: “according to the Constitution…we have the……”
Obama: “What Constitution?????”
July 17th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
That’s OK. Let ‘em know where all the guns are. The south will be safe. They’ll attack in California.
July 18th, 2009 at 5:19 am
The American People have gotten very very relaxed as to what our elected leaders are doing in the name of terrorism and other issues. “We the People” need to start demanding from our elected leaders to stop removing our constitution rights. We the People need to start getting more involved in what our Govt. Leaders are doing, both domestic and forigen.
We the People need to hold our leaders accountible for their actions and remove them from office. We the People need to remove leaders that are only doing things that only self serve them and their cronies.
“WE THE PEOPLE” need to take back our Govt from these self serving leaders and give it back to the PEOPLE.
Because if “WE THE PEOPLE” dont start taking more action against our self serving leaders, WE THE PEOPLE will end up where we statred 233 years ago under the rule of a KING.
July 18th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Sence the american people like to vote one party mostly, because there great great great, or great great, or great parence and parence were and are homeosexuals and by God there going to stick there branes up there ass and be homeosexuals just as well!
The american people are getting the kind of government they realy deserve!
It is very alarming to thouse of ous who are far more aware and are independent, knowing that either way in this one party system the clouser you get to the top of the party it all merges into all the same so nothing wil change untill the peope in this country are hurt so bad that they cry in anglash, only then wiull they wake up and lots of others will just never confrount the truth! They can never see eval anywhere, for they are so overwhelm with it they don’t dare see it, even when it kills them!
July 19th, 2009 at 1:35 am
The 2nd ammendment is in place in case people forget the other ones and Why it was at the top of the founding fathers agenda.They can have my guns-but bullets first.A person with a gun is a citizen,a person without one is a subject
July 19th, 2009 at 1:44 am
Dumbfounded… Says:
July 15th, 2009 at 12:46 am
…And why was he in Iraq? Because he was in the military and following the orders of a megalomaniac who forced an unjust and illegal war on his citizens based on the premise that Iraq had WMD’s and posed a direct threat to the citizens of the US, None of which has been proven, and you think your new president is the problem ??
SO we are back to the whining that “everything is Bush’s fault WAAA WAAA WAAAAA.Sometime you will have to be a MAN and take resposibility for the morons you elect.The dems were also FOR that war(if you can fire up that last brain cell and remember)The only difference was,they expected to win over a weekend.Also remember other nations got the same intelligence we did.But we can thank Bill Clinton for releasing the pilot of the plane that hit tower 1-so how far back you wanna go?This is O”S deal now,he was supposedly elected to “fix” whatever you were unhappy with.If you were unhappy then,i really wanna see you a year from now lol
July 19th, 2009 at 9:22 am
This is not what we signed up for I never voted for this man and i will not support him ever. I think the people need to stick together and boot his ass out, This none american should not be in office.
July 19th, 2009 at 11:15 am
HOLY SHIT JUDSON…ever heard of spell check! Where are you from? How old are you? I’m not trying to pick on you but your grammar is alarming to me. I have a hard time following your comment about homosexuals? You don’t like homosexuals? Your post has absolutely nothing to do with this forum. Go back to school! When you’ve completed written composition; then enter into a political conversation such as this.
July 19th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
The ObamaramadingdongAntiChrist just may NOT have been elected by the people. He may have been installed by ACORN. And where is his birth certificate? Even his own grandmother says he was not born in the US.
Who is strong-arming the media so that they don’t report his abuses??? The Chicago mob?
July 20th, 2009 at 3:03 am
Well if the French taught us one thing, it is this.
If the President, Congress and their Special Interest minions succeed in absolving our Second Amendment Rights… “Off with their heads!!”
Using American ingeuity it is time to commence the building of new modern, improved Guillotines along with a list of deserving Candidates.
I nominate the following Top Ten:
1 Nancy Pelosi
2 Harry Ried
3 Barney Franks
4 Ted Kennedy
5 Barbara Boxer
6 George Soros
7 Wolf Blitzer
8 Kieth Obermann
9 Dianna Feinstein
10 Chris Dodd
Your Candidates… please.
July 20th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Americas Up for SALE. We should have a sale price of about 7.5 Trillon by the end of the current presidential term. Any one interested? If the Parties are allowed to add to the bailout the ruling on behalf of the NRA, then we will always be looked at as terrorist. Why should the NRA have any freakon influence on how bills and laws get past. They NRA is just a bunch of geretol filled old farts who have nothing better then trying to get everyone to buy a gun and regerster (with over inflated regitration prices) that they all get kick backs from. Lets blame all the littel organizations for the issue not Obama. He just doing what he is told to do.
July 20th, 2009 at 8:28 am
I don’t own a gun at present but you all can count on the fact that I will within the next 24 hours, we all need to stock up and be ready for any and all, rag heads, and any other lowlife lookin for 27 virgins or any thisg else promised for being ass enough to buy that propaganda, GOD BLESS AND KEEP AMERICA “ALL AMERICAN”.
July 20th, 2009 at 10:28 am
OK, many many great thoughts and opinions. BUT, someone at some time has to form a “group” or give instruction & direction to the people! If not, it’s all just words. Action is the key. Many say, well, you just vote them out. Do you actually believe that our votes are not “controlled”, blemished or “box-stuffed”? With the internet, direction can be swift, that is…..if the information is not restricted or eliminated all together. I notice all of the comments by ex-military people that are sick of this Obomanator and his threat to destroy the 2A, but what about people in the military today? are they going to “blindly” support him? Will the armed forces today rebel against his decisions to take away the guns from Americans that legally have their right to own them? Or, will they be brain-washed and actually kill Americans that refuse to give up their right to bear arms? Will a “new” government rise up here in Amercia and fight against the corrupt government we have today? Whose finance will support this? So, it would be nice to see some direction, thoughts on establishing something rather than just sitting back & complaining. Thoguhts? Ideas? Or, can this be referred to “attacking” our country and be deemed “terrosts”…..and martial law be used against you……i.e. taken away from your home in the middle of the night and never to be seen again? Scary………..
July 20th, 2009 at 10:55 am
when they come for the guns…make sure to give them the ammo first….through the barrel!
July 20th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
In reply to Donnyballgame24:
The armed forces will do what they are ordered to do. They are not trained to think for themselves. Much like the way we teach our children. Do as your told or face the consequences. They will be ordered to disarm us…and we will be at war with our own cousins, uncles and friends. We will be in control of our own demise and as I said in a previous post, we will have a civil war beyond what we can fathom. I’m afraid that few will live though what we are about to see.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:35 am
tks for the effort you put in here I appreciate it!
July 21st, 2009 at 8:23 am
I wonder if they realize that there are hundreds throughout the country who, with the materials, can just being to reproduce the guns again.
July 21st, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I just saw an email where Obama was at a meeting with the Russians and not one of them would shake his hand. What does that tell you about our commander in chief? Do you think he is respected among other world leaders? No way. He bows and kisses the asses of every Muslim terrorist leader in the world. He has made a mockery of the presidency of the United States. That is a very big sign of disrespect when a foreign leader or representative will not even shake your hand!
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Aren’t there enough wars. Try taking our guns!
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
The entire administration isn’t worth the powder to blow them all to hell.
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:57 am
Guns kill people in the same way spoons made Rosie O’Donnell fat.
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
O bama, has lied over and over. He has bashed the 2nd amendment at every turn since he has been in office. I guess he forgot the part in his oath about PROTECT AND DEFEND THAT OLD PIECE OF PAPER THAT HAS KEEP THIS COUNTRY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR THESE MANY YEARS. CAN YOU SAY IT’S TIME TO IMPEACH HIM???????????
July 24th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Realist ,you are obviously a ultra liberal idiot . Even the Japenese were afraid to invade the USA during WW2 because of armed citizens behind every blade of grass .
July 25th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Nice site. go to my favorites. TNx
July 27th, 2009 at 7:44 am
I’m afraid laws are of little use to any of us for there have been many laws passed that were designed to protect our rights and previous administrations have trampled them as though they didn’t exist. Take the “Dick act of 1902″ or HR 11654. This clearly states that our guns can’t be taken, but also states that National Guard of a State can not be ordered to war outside the limits of the United States, and yet they have and are today.
It will fall to all of us to confront the young man who comes to your door asking for your weapons and then to support one another when that time comes. For I believe that those who warn of insurection are right. How many of you will have the courage when it comes?
July 28th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
As always, US Army vets will be there when the going gets tough and it will get tough.Boggles the senses when one considers how many Americans continue to support this bunch of radical, left wing nuts that are in charge. Never thought I would live long enough to see what is happening to our country. Very sad, isnt it?
July 29th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
In response to “Dan Fowler” after my reply: This is what’s wrong with most everyone…..we here about those not willing to give up their guns till they pry them from my cold dead fingers, etc. Tough guy mentality. But, when we see people being shot, stripped away from their families, considered “terrosts” and martial law used against people……when they come knocking at your door, how many people are really going to die for the sake of freedom? You going to leave your kids/family behind to defend for themselves without you? Isn’t this what the goverment wants? A reason to declare nation-wide martial law? This would certainley fit the bill for their desire to “thin down” the population. The armed forces need to un-brainwash themselves…..army, navy, air force, marines, etc. need to realize they are here to protect US! Not kill us! And realize there comes a point where the “commander in chief” is going against the constitution and needs to be removed from power…and all of his buddies as well. Watch things unfold here in the very near future…there will be a control on food, water, medicine, etc. in the final overall attempt to push those to take “the mark” in order to buy & sell. We will all soon have some very important choices to make……live for a short while now….or live forever in eternity. If you don’t have faith/hope…..what else is there to live for? God help us!
July 30th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Tighter and stricter regulations on the second amendment of the constitution and the inability to purchace ammunition mean only on thing. Make EVERY bullet fired at the knuckel heads of the goone squad count (squeze don’t pull the trigger). You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hands! And I wish any one either foriegn or demestic would try to take away my God given right as an American citizen “the right to keep and bare arms”.
July 30th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
I totaly agree, we must not let them take away our 2nd Amendment Rights.
Obama is trying to take everything away from us. We must put a stop to his unconstitutional acts.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Well we’re sure complaining alot…NO HELP
Lot’s of people talking…..NO HELP
Empty threats……..NO HELP
Time to do something or shut up and take it!!!
Anyone know? When was the last war we actualy won?!
Think we can rise up against our own Government? Think again it’s to late..BUSH made sure of that!!!
July 30th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
there are over 24 mission vets who served this country not to give up our constitutuinal rights. were all trained by the best, and are all pert of the best, shooters etc. we are the the secret miltary when called upon. like rob says you can have my guns when you pry it from my cold dead hands. If we have to we will defend our freedom and country even if we have to take it back from you assholes in washington and S. schumer.
stand fast all you Marines you may be needed.
July 30th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
I also am very concerned about the gun issue and loss of the 2nd ammendment. I am sorry to say that our current president is an absolute hipocrit.
Look it up in the dictionary. It means actor. In addition to acting he has
managed to present the American people with a lot of grandure and crap
only to conceal what is really going on behind the scenes and under the radar. Just this past week he has appointed two fullfledged muslims supporting all we are fighting against to the office of homeland security. Did the press cover this……………….?? Asolutely not!! The election of this presidential impersonator did not just happen over night. Laugh if you want but the appointment of this actor has been well orchestrated over a number of years. Hitler would never have come to power if the country was economically and industrially strong….. He won by offering change to a country of people who have been beaten down with no where to turn. Hitler was a narscistic individual and many phycologist have indicated the current president is a narscistic person of the higest degree. Look it up in the dictionary. God Bless America and God forgive the man who will not salute her flag or the military men who defend her.
August 2nd, 2009 at 12:25 am
I wonder how this information would be used if in the wrong hands. IF they know someone is a registered gun owner then they can deduct that those who are not registered are not gun owners which would make them fair game for robbery or whatever else. I say if this were to get into the wrong hands because many registeries have been hacked in the past.
Secondly, I wonder if the 29 other nations that have radified this include anyone in the Taliban? Sure would make Bin Laden easier to find if he were registered.
August 2nd, 2009 at 11:23 am
Scott F says: “They NRA is just a bunch of geretol filled old farts who have nothing better then trying to get everyone to buy a gun and regerster (with over inflated regitration prices) that they all get kick backs from.”
Hey Scott, first of all, get a browser that will at least spell-check for you (Geritol, register, registration). Secondly, the NRA is NOT in favor of registration and would prefer NO registration at all (this would result in the government NOT knowing which of the law-abiding citizens have guns, without which people like Obama & Pelosi wouldn’t be able to find us and take our guns away… kind of like the aftermath of Katrina when Lousiana gestapos went to homes of gunowners and confiscated their guns).
It’s important for EVERY GUN OWNER in America to join the NRA if you haven’t already done so. I also support groups that can’t technically help me, like USCCA (U.S. Concealed Carry Association), only because I live in a state (Hawaii) where concealed carry is NOT allowed. (Technically it is, being a “may issue” state, but it hasn’t been done due to anti-gun police chiefs.)
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:28 pm
It’s all about money. How much does america have? Or don’t have?
Have no fear !!!!
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Patrick Henry’s words from 1788:
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined”
God save America is not enough. We have to save it!
August 4th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
OMG is that asshole insane? He is going to ruin our country ….worst than it was…..the man is power hungry…..God bless America
August 4th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Our founding fathers wrote in the second amendment because they knew if this new government became to big and oppressive that the people would need weapons not only for their own protection, but to summon a citizen army to rid the evil doers who would wish to oppress the people.
Never in historys past has there ever been a govenment, regardless of how well intended that did not rot from within.
As long as this government is doing the will of the people, and caring for them in a mannor fitting free men, then they have nothing to worry about.
We all have a God given right to self preservation and self protection from anyone who would wish to do us harm.
There are already more than enough laws on the books to tackle the law breakers who would abuse that right. leave well enough alone, and get on with taking care of the peoples business.
Quit the fear mongering.
August 4th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
In response to Donny ballgames remark, when he ask how many would actually be willing to die for their families and freedom!
Look at histories past and the civil war, and too what then be the reason men and women go willingly to fight and die on foreign soil if not for the protection of our freedoms here at home!
perhaps your one that would cave in, but then, your right, no one really knows what they would do when the time comes that the government comes knocking on our door to lock up the citizens in civilian labor army camps.
Have you heard that there are Chinese citizens coming here to buy homes due to the depressed housing market, and too have you heard about the large Chinese population living and working in Mexico?
What’s going on anyway!
Why all of a sudden is our economy in the tolit, and people committing sueaside in groves which we aren’t hearing about?
Are we maybe really living in the last days, as fortold?
” CAN YOU HEAR THE ANGELES CRYING “
August 5th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Molon labe!
August 5th, 2009 at 10:46 am
You know, I didn’t even see Casper’s comment when I made mine (how could I miss that?). Sorry Casper, you had it first!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
It may be time to rally all the pro- 2nd amendment rights citizens and march to Washington locked and loaded to get the socialist bastards attention. We need to make inaugeration day look like a picnic at a leper colony. Do you think they might get the hint if 5 million or 10 million armed Americans marched on DC? I think it is time to throw out all the fuckers who have bee selling us out for decades. Do we really have any representatives in Washington. I think they are all just out for themselves and don’t give a crap about us. We need to get rid of all of them and start over!!!!!! Trying to legalize the illegals and give them OUR social security. If Obama’s health care plan is so f-ing good, it should be good enough for all our elected too. Did you know his bank bail out was more blackmail than anything. All the banks were told they must accept the bailout money- but they had to sign over billions of their Class A stock in the process. What a way to take over the banking systems! Sounds like mafia, communist, socialist, what ever you call it, it shouldn’t be legal, and if we did it we would go to jail. Call me when the war starts right here in the USA.
August 7th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
“The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia was the Work of Jewish Brains, Jewish Dissatisfaction and Jewish Planning, whose goal is to create a New Order in the world.
What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish Brains and Jewish planning, shall also, through the same mental and Physical forces, Become a reality all over the world.”
-American Hebrew, September 8, 1920
August 8th, 2009 at 10:22 am
When guns and ammo are controlled only the criminals will have the guns/ammo. When you purchase a gun from a gun show the form/ call-in process automatically records and registers the gun to the buyer. I am not sure of the ammo but suspect there is a record of that also even though no call in permission is required.
Be careful when buying ammo. Remember when none (even reload materials) could be found on the shelves last winter? The ammo that later filled those shelves is encoded to record the name, ammo caliber, amount and frequency of purchase along with any and all materials to self load. There will come a time when you will be required physically show the ammo you have on hand for a count. I have heard the number of a 2 box limit (or equilvent) per caliber to be enacted in the future but I have not verified or found the box count requirements per caliber allowed. I believe April 2010 is the date where all unencoded ammo is to be used, destroyed or turned in. HA…like that will happen… Obama said that our guns would not be taken away (lie) but he said nothing about the ammo.
PS.. I have been in Iraq and Afghanistan for the last 5 years (Govt Contractor) and back only a few months. As far as I can see this country has gone to the dogs and flea control is not working.
The military does not need to be un-brainwashed. They know the new ‘rules” are not right and that one can not fight a war when the ROE prevents them from shooting back or defending themselves if the target shoots and drops the gun/rpg/etc and walk away. (very simple explanation)
There are too many things going wrong with this country at the same time. The gun issue is only one part. Divide and conquer is Obama’s plan of the day to slip other extremely detrimental actions thru while issues like Guns are being debated.
August 8th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Check your State Constitution on the right to keep and bear arms, it should over ride the US Constitution.
August 8th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
I love my country and hate the people that run it. They are all lying policy whores! I’ll do and say anything for power whores! The boat is sinking and we all run to the left, it’s sinking faster! We all run to the right, it’s sinking even faster ! We all run back to the left, it’s about to go under and we run back to the right. WHAT SHALL WE Doooo garble,gurgul,bloop,bloop. HELP,SAVE ME, look there’s a Libertarian, SAVE ME,TAKE ME WITH YOU,HELPpppp…………………….
August 11th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
This country is in real danger. Seriously.
August 12th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Sending in foreigners is the best thing our domestic enemies could do. It’ll be easier to get bubba to shoot alibaba from eastern europe than jim bob from down the road.
The problem is they’ll get sergio from new yawk city and other places full of braindead “Liberal” citiots who’ll happily kill middle americans for a paycheck.
It’s already ‘fascism’ and headed toward full blown communism. The sheeple and most ‘patriots’/conservatives/truthers/paulbots/whatever will be willing slaves because they are unwilling to do what is required.
It will take many expensive suits hanging along Pennsylvania Ave. to fix this mess if it can be fixed.
Don’t understand? Start here:
http://willowtown.com/promo/quotes.htm
Think globally, fight locally. Aim small, miss small. One shot, one dead “Liberal”(communist/fascist).
August 13th, 2009 at 12:07 am
http://www.google.com/search?q=CIFTA&rls=com.microsoft:*:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7
http://www.oas.org/juridico/English/treaties/a-63.html
Please folks, take a minute to read the treaty. I have included the webisite for that information above and a google search that has several reports regarding CIFTA. It does give information on the next page as to the countries that have signed and ratified this treaty. This really is pretty scary stuff!
But before you enter your knee jerk reactions to the current regime-at least listen to the responses of Harry Reid before you assume what he will or won’t do. After all, he is a Nevada State Senator…and that’s just not how we do things out west..
I think it is very interesting that our President is going to Montana this week-don’t you? In that context McCain recieved 49% of the vote and Obama 47%-pretty tight when you think about it.. in the Presidential election.
I find it interesting that Nevada rolled over to Blue…
We have so much to be thankful for…the Patriot Act…the Brady Bill.
We have Free trade acts with countries with known drug cartels….so that they will not produce coca leaves to produce cocaine. No tariffs on all of there agriculture crops that come in to this country. We have made farmers out of them and put our own in the Welfare/Forclosure/Unemployment/Homeless line….
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?contentidonly=true&contentid=fta_projects.html
We have literally put thousand of American Farmers,Canneries,Truck drivers, laborers out of work.
Schwinn Bicycles and Levis made by the Chinese and the Mexicans.
It’s delightful to watch the news every night and see the same Drug Cartels annihalating the Mexican police and military. They have so much more MONEY and GUNS to win that war! Kidnap,rape and hold hostage Americans that come to that country. Yet, we want to enter in to a treaty with the same countries we are trying to end their unsavory influence on our Nation…
If you voted last year in the Presidential election, in the spirit of the Constitution……..send letters, make phone calls, establish registered voter petitions so that your local,state and federal constituents are aware of your voice. We are the ones that put them in office, we need to hold them accountable. Letters to the editor and the facts and research to back them up. Email is available to all levels of government-use it!
Real change requires that we get up off our duffs and do something about it-let’s quit whining and hold them responsible…before this treaty gets signed and ratified. It’s up to us!
We are the keepers of the gate, it’s our duty to defend the constitution and to make sure that those we voted to hold office do just that!
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August 15th, 2009 at 9:26 am
ok im gonna keep this short………… if u have a 17 year old daughter in your house alone and a rapist with aids lives 1 block away from your house. and lets say there is a cop car 5 miles away and your a the supermarket for the next hour….the rapist is trying to get into her house…. which one will protect her the most? A)condom B)a phone to call the police or C) a 9mm glock? give me a reply at my email address
August 16th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Obama your a dumb ass im a rancher in montana i own cattle and sheep i get 2 pay checks a year in the fall when i sell the calves and lambs my guns protect my income. If you take away guns you also take the steak off your plate where does your t bone come from? the store right? no it comes from my blood and sweat to produce it for you. you can have my guns when you can find them after your body gaurds hand in theirs oh did i mention you can have my ammo one bullet at a time coming out the end of my guns starting with my barrett 82A1.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:42 am
The last thing Hitler did after he took the guns away was to take away health care for the people. Does this look simular?
August 20th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Someone fire the first shot and let’s get this thing started!
August 20th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Thomas Jefferson used the ideas of John Locke, and Sir William Blackstone and others like them as the cornerstone of the Constitution. He had said that many times. If any of you people doubt why the second amendment was included try reading some of their work. (Uh hum Mr. Realist). John Locke’s Two Treatises of Government spells it out nicely for you. Even someone as confused as you ought to be able to understand it.
August 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 am
We Texans are looking at seceding in order to preserve our God given rights as well as our right to defend ourselves. Our own governor has said it. Not quite what I expected this country to come to. I hate to think that I served my country under the leadership of President Reagan just to see it waste away to this. I now know what the Roman soldiers must have been thinking/feeling when Rome was about to fall. It isn’t that we hate the USA, we love Texas more and must preserve our way of life. Never thought I would live to see this day coming. God help us.
August 25th, 2009 at 9:32 am
“EVERYONE should watch the movie ‘Red Dawn’ again. While it featured Soviet troops, it did have a Mexican commander. ”
Uh, he was Cuban dude….
August 26th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
I believe in most all of you. Except for such as REALIST & CUTLASS. I didn’t read all the comments; not enough time. As a matter of opinion, Obama already has an underground and well armed military. Many of his kind have been preparing for years to “We shall overcome”. The military units have “misplaced” many weapons of every type. I have my opinion of where these weapons have been stored. Obama is filling every position of importance with people of his own kind and manner of thinking. To say that, the Black census is 15% of the U.S., is a cover up. Every major city has a black mayor, etc. Don’t fear the outside world. FEAR the inside world. What was that word he used soooo much during his campaign “RETRIBUTION”. GOD SAVE OUR NATION.
August 27th, 2009 at 11:34 am
you have no freedom your goverment locks up & kills its own people if you talk out about any thing that it saids is not good for The U S A but only it can say what is good for you less the half of you vote thats how this comes about
August 27th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
What is everyone worried about? We lost our Republic (not Democracy) years ago. We have an ologarchy. The incompetent, overpaid, over benefited 500 plus in Washington. Now they want my gun. No way. Our Democracy is bought and paid for by the Industrial Complex Ike warned us about.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:41 am
I fear from all that has been said here and other sites that I have visited, that horrible turbulent times are ahead for our Nation. God HELP US ALL. The Civil War of 1861-1865 is going to look like a walk in a rose garden compared to what is coming upon our Nation in the very near future unless somehow the madness of our government is not abated. What we are facing is has been said, it has been coming for decades. If nothing else the 1900’s will be seen by historians as the demise of the most radiently God gifted country in the history of man outside of Israel of Old Testiment times. God surely blessed this country and surly as we have as a Nation allowed our government to turn its back on God, He has as surly turned His back on us. But, the (pardon the expression) fat lady has not yet sung so there is still hope. 2Ch. 7:14 states, (if)” My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land.” Have we gone so far down the slope that there is no return? Will we not as a Nation get on our knees, renounce our sin, and call upon the Lord. If we do, as a Nation, He will surly hear. But, we will face the consequences of our past actions. God Bless the United States of America.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:18 am
FUCK OBAMA!!!
August 28th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
GREAT WEBSITE! MAY GOD PROTECT US ALL, AS ONLY HE CAN. WE ARE CONFRONTED WITH A SITUATION THAT NEEDS DIVINE INTERVENTION. SEVERAL AMERICANS CHOSE TO CHOOSE THE WORSE OF THE WORSE AT VOTING TIME AND NOW WE ARE FACED WITH AN ECONOMIC DEGRADATION! EVERYWHERE WE KEEP READING FROM PATRIOTS AT THE DIFFERENT WEBSITES AND FOX NEWS ABOUT THE DANGERS THAT WE ARE FACING. OUR DOLLAR VALUE DEVALUATES BY THE SECOND. I JUST SENT $100.00 US DOLLARS TO LONDON ENGLAND AND THE CURRENCY VALUE EQUALED TO APPROXIMATELY $57.00 POUNDS! AT THAT DESCENDING VALUE RATE, SOON, NOBODY WILL TAKE OUR MONEY. . . . . I RECEIVED AN EMAIL LAST WEEK THAT STATED THAT THIS WEEK SEVERAL AMERICAN BANKS ARE CONSIDERING THE ACCEPTANCE OF IINCORPORATING THE EURO DOLLAR SYSTEM. WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US? WE, THE PEOPLE, HAVE NOT BEEN CONSULTED AS TO WHETHER WE WANT IT OR NOT! LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, THE OBAMA TEAM ARE GETTING A LOT OF THE TARP MONEY INTO THEIR OWN POCKETS, ACCORDING TO THE FINDINGS THAT WE HEAR ON THE NEWS. WE DON’T HAVE TO GO TOO FAR, I READ THAT PELOSI’S HUSBAND WAS ONE OF THE FIRST RECIPIENTS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR HIS LUCRATIVE FOREIGN BUSINESS COMPANY. AND THIS INFORMATION WAS AGAIN CONFIRMED ON THE FOX NEWS A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. . . . ALSO,
I HAVE THE TAPE WHERE OBAMA WAS BEING INTERVIEWED AND HE ACCIDENTLY SAID”MY MUSLIM FAITH” AND THE STUPID COMMENTATOR, CORRECTED HIM BY SAYING: “YOU MEAN YOUR CHRISTIAN FAITH?”..AND OBAMA RESPONDED: “UH, YES, MY CHRISTIAN FAITH” ! ! ! WE SAW THAT THE MEDIA WAS PRO OBAMA EVEN WHILE AMERICANS WERE QUESTIONING HIS AMERICAN U.S. ‘BIRTH-CITIZENSHIP’ . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .PEOPLE CAN BECOME CITIZENS, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE BORN IN THE UNITED STATES TO BE ELIGIBLE TO BECOME A UNITED STATES PRESIDENT! AS I READ MANY OF THE COMMENTS, THE COMMENTS ARE HEARTFELT AND HOPEFULLY THAT ALL OF THIS ENERGY AND CONVICTION PLAYS INTO ACTION AT THE MOMENT OF TEST. IT TAKES COURAGE AND LOVE FOR AMERICA TO PROTECT IT. AND TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOM. SLAVERY IN ANY FORM IS HORRENDOUS!
August 29th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
NICE MATT!!! Is vulgarity all you know. I just finished watching the Glen Beck program from last night. He is a little kooky in how he presents his information but the man is right on in what he is saying. One thing he left out though was, IT IS TIME TO START A MOVEMENT IN OUR COUNTRY TO IMPEACH THIS MARXIST COMMUNIST AROGANT TURKEY. In the past 6 months he has done everything he can to shread our Constitution, build a subversive communist framework within our government, aid and abet’ the enemies of our nation, apoligize for us as a Nation for the indiscreations of our government when we as a Nation have done more than any other country in the world to feed and shelter the unfortunate,
socialize our free interprise system, enact law or encourage the use of international law to subjucate any effort for us to protect our rights by canceling the 2nd Amendment, defang the C.I.A. and nueter their ability to gather information on plots against our Nation, reinforce the existance of lefist communist governments in latin and south America, and, in my opinion, destroy everything our fathers, brothers, and sons have shed blood for to protect our heritage and lift up freedom around the world.
It is time to put an end to this madness and IMPEACH THIS TRAITOR FOR WHAT HE IS. Stand up America, and let your voice be known. God Bless our great Nation.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:59 am
…….when we as a Nation have done more than any other country in the world to feed and shelter the unfortunate,……
Your fucking kidding, right?
The US has caused more problems and hardship around the world in the name of Freedom than any other nation has in the name of war since 1945.
History has proved that your military is incapable of winning a war and does fuck all more than destroy lives and countries. All your foreign aid policies achieve is to arm corrupt governments and insurgents, and your own corrupt government/s sit back and rake in the kick backs from it.
“Feed and shelter the unfortunate” give me a break… When you get your head out of your arse and see the world they way it actually is you’ll begin to understand why your President feels the need to apologise for your collective, arrogant arses.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Hey realist do you know the word INFRINGED means? No one is taking our guns, least of all a malcontent racist punk from Chicago. If they want to bring in foreign troops to dictate their leftist control. MAKE OUR DAY!! America has the largest armed civilian population and we will take on anyone who thinks they are going to tell us what to do. While this is all going on I am sure the US military that swears and oath to the constitution is going to be okay with all this, Our jack off government tried to get us to stop drinking too and they never stopped the losers in this country from taking every drug there is. But you leftist malcontents are going to take every gun away, what LSD trip are you nitwits on. The day Obama and his goons make their move, Newton’s Law of motion will kick in. We will end this madness going back to those commie animals who planned all this in the bowels of the kremlin in 1917 through the American jack off commies and to the malcontent nut jobs that really believe the country is behind them. All I can say is make our day, give us the excuse to revolt so we can clean up this country of commie lovers, moochers, slackers and free loaders.
Go for it!
August 31st, 2009 at 10:38 pm
They can come up my street and get my guns….anytime. I will have a nice reception for them.
September 1st, 2009 at 6:18 am
ww2 ph vet 88 yrs old take my guns haha just try it my guns made it possible for u panty waist to be here now and thats ashame but it had to be done we wer soldiers not slacker
September 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pm
When you have a man as President that cannot show a true birth place, cannot show true records from college, has never ran any type of business except racketeering, wants us to give up our private health care so his druggie friends and lazy asses can keep ripping off the working tax payers, you have the prime mixture for destroying our country. Just why do you think they want our guns, they are afraid of us, a man without a gun to protect hinself and his family is open to thieves, murders and scandrels that can walk over us at will, I believe in self protection and no law that our Government pases will change that, if you want to get a thieves atention, shove a shotgun in his face, you have his attention, I would hate to have to fight our own Government but this has happened before in the civil war, it can happen again and this time it won’t be split between north and south, it will be the people against the tyrants, if you think our troups are having trouble in Irac, just wait until they are sent into the hills and mountains of the U.S. to find us, there will be much blood shed that our leaders will have to take responsibility for, I would not like to see this happen but will not back down from it, this is my country, my ancestors fought for it and died for it and I will die to protect it, how many of our radical leaders in congress had ancestors fight to win our freedom, if they had, they would not be so fast to destroy our country, Obamass has no respect or love for this country, he is not of this country and should not be allowed to serve his time as President, when you put a monkey in the whitehouse, you better have plenty of bananas and watermellons to feed it, I for one am tired of being pushed and its time the people pushes back, its our country, lets take it back and make it one nation under GOD WITH LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL, put IN GOD WE TRUST BACK in America, WHEN WE DO THAT, OUR COUNTRY WILL BEGIN TO PROSPER AGAIN, UPHOLD GOD AND COUNTRY, not muslem, Obamass has ties to the very people who caused 9/11 destruction, the smile on his face depics the real background he follows, ANY MAN WHO WOULD SPEAK TO FOREIGN LEADERS AND BOW TO THEM IS NOTHING LESS THAN AN IDIOT, ANY LEADER WHO APPOLOGIZES FOR WHAT AMERICA DOES IS AN IDIOT, ANY LEADER WHO DOES NOT UPHOLD THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY IS AN IDIOT, SO WE HAVE AN IDIOT IN THE WHITEHOUSE AND WITH HIS IDIOTS LIKE POLOSI, THEY WILL DESTROY OUR COUNTRY IF WE LET THEM, its time to fight back, band together and remember, its not long before election again, vote out any one who wants to destroy our country and our rights, there are more of us who love America than those who do not, we dont’t need an idiot to tell us how to live, if the people stand together, we can stop this and we must be willing to do what ever it takes to win this, Washington will do anything to win, so can we, we have one thing on our side they do not, we have right on our side and GOD BLESS AMERICA
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:06 am
Over my cold dead body will you take my guns, or have them registered under this treaty!
September 4th, 2009 at 9:57 am
You mean Obama wants to stop straw buyers of guns shipped to Mexico in order to stabilize a drug war that’s claimed 20,000 Mexican lives, already?
The gun lobby must, perforce be FOR murder, mayhem and the spread of illegal drugs in Mexico. Right now, you’ve got a hugely destablizing force with the drug cartels in fighting pitched battles against the rule of law and thousands of innocents ae dying. But, the selfish, myopic gun lobby can’t see past the sights of their own guns. May God pity you all.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Hey, Will Mullins…I’ll show you Obama’s American birth certificate, if you show me Sarah Palin’s high school diploma. Deal?
September 4th, 2009 at 11:44 am
I have been stationed all over the world and a Vietnam Veteran. After seeing how the other countries treat their own citizens – how on earth do you think they will use this information against us if there were ever a serious problem.
They need to send old farts like me back into battle. We don’t believe in “the Just Be Nice Doctrine” and would not stop with water boarding…let them loose a few heads and use that as a warning. They only understand one behavior…show them we can do the same.
Thank you and put GOD in our Schools!
September 4th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
To Gonzo: Although I have not seen Sarah Palin’s high school diploma, I can tell you she graduated. Many people, including her high school teachers (of whom I personally know), watched as she graduated from Wasilla High School. The Mat-Su Valley is too small a community for Ms. Palin NOT to have graduated and everyone not know. You can learn/ see this for yourself if you ask the right people. Yet, no one I know can give you a certified, vault original, birth certificate of Mr. Obama. I seem to notice that when Obama supporters reply, they say nasty things about a conservative instead of addressing the original issue. hmmmmmmmmm
September 5th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
It’s time for a call to action in every part of what is happening in this country. God needs to be back in front of everything we do, and we need to DO Now! Stop tolerating the crap in our schools and the bull they are feeding them daily. If you need to pull them out and stop letting the schools do this to our future. Get angry and do something.
All of us need to get off our butts. No gun control ever for
any of us. I heard Texas is the only state that still has the right to succeed(?) from the union. If need be I say we all gather there and put up a fight. Never forget 9-11 and remember the Alamo! God Bless America Land of the Free and Home of the Brave.
September 5th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
The larger centralization of government power gets, the smaller our civil liberties become. Is anybody really paying attention to the global police state that is being installed before our very eyes? The police look more and more like modern day soldiers, while the average citizen is looking more like concentration camp Jews; if we don’t do something about this it will be too late to do anything about it. History has an astonishing way of repeating itself……..
“The answer to 1984 is 1776!”
Alex Jones
September 5th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Our Founding Fathers were very clear on why we need the 2nd Amendment. It is also very understandable why these traitors want to take them away.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
DISGRACE – OBOMINATION – go home. This Communist / MUSLIM , born in KENYA has no idea what a FREE Country is , and is going the route of his Socialist upbringing – to make the UNITED STATES like OLD Russia…. Or — is he planning to try a takover of this Country.. Be alert folks – he is up to some very sneaky under handed scheme… Have no doubt. The FOOL Congressmen are right along with him. Many are COMMIES – proven already. Looks like my 30 plus years as a Federal Employee were all for nothing ??? Wake up AMERICA – keep you guns… They by themselves are meaningless – and no threat to anyone…. Take them away from FREE peoples – and then you are all open to this bunch of slugs…
September 9th, 2009 at 11:45 am
My Stash is WELL protected….by another, STASH!!!!
September 10th, 2009 at 9:28 am
We have the right to bear arms for the sole purpose of stopping the very actions that are taking place on Capital Hill right now. Our forefathers, who were godly men, sought direction before writing such a document, not like the 3 a.m. underhanded shenanigans that are taking place today. We must hold on to these rights in order to protect our american heritage and God given rights. We have a sense os self preservation built in us for a reason, not given us by the federal government, but by our creator. I intend on protecting me and mine with all of the resources I have available. I am not, by far, the smartest person in the U.S., but I have seen this coming for a number of years. Being a veteran, i took an oath to protect this country from all enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC. An oath is an oath and i take it very seriously and for LIFE.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Mike…..got your back!
Let’s start in 2010 to kick the bums out. NO MORE INCUMBANTS….for a while…then maybe let SOME get a second term.
Power truly corrupts…and those idiots seem pretty decent the first term….work hard….however, by the second term, they’ve learned how to royally screw us to the wall…and they most certainly do!
September 15th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Last time I checked, ALL MY RIGHTS come from God.
Now what fool, with who’s army, is going to try to be the first one that gets between me and God?
I assure you, they will die in the effort. And they will fail.
They will be dead lots longer than they were alive.
It’s their END, if stupid enough.
This is America, where the people are NOT “Subjects.”
If Americans, that is. Brits, well, that’s a different story.
“Give me liberty or give me death!”
Me AND Patrick Henry say this!
Join us!
I may not be able to rescue all the startfish, but I can still take out at least one bastard who is fool enough to try.
So can you.
So do so! Just do it!
September 16th, 2009 at 12:31 am
The “government” needs to hear loud and clear, every day and in every way, that they work for us, not the other way around. Also, writing letters and voting avails to absolutely nothing. This country is so far down the tube right now, the only thing that will avail is an all out, bloody revolutionary war. If that doesn’t happen, we are gone for good.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:02 am
Im ready!!!..Someone may come into my house to take my guns but NO ONE IS COMING OUT!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 9:35 am
This is just another reason why we need to impress on Congress that not only is this in violation of our 2nd amendment but also disregards the sovereignty of the United Sates.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
The truth is that We ARE A REPUBLIC !!!!!!! In a Republic democracy means nothing.. The law is the law, no matter what percentage of people think God should not exist, the law says that we are a Nation, Under GOD UNDER GOD UNDER GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! So as long as the law of the Republic states that We are a people under God with certain liberties and rights the Republic stands behind the law and the law stands behind the Republic and its citizenry…
Unfortunately we have a Democracy now, and if 51% of illegal aliens and 20% of people that died six months ago (like Acorn’s tactics) say that they want a new world order, than the rest of us have to suffer… The president we have now is an illegal, unconstitutional unsurper, he is an ICBM sent by the new world order to destroy our nation from the inside, he is a trojan horse… The problem is not that the commie marxist propagande the problem is out Fat Stupid, Lazy birocratic way of life America, stop watching the boob tube and your futbal and your wwf and TV bull in general, stop eating trash at Mc donalds and start reading a book, better yet start with The Bible, that will teach you the right and wrong of things, You want to be like our fathers of the nation and constitution??? Read the books they read and speak the things they spoke. THE BIBLE, that’s the Supreme Law the ybased out laws on. With no Bible, you have no law, mans law is erronous and faulty…
Only chance you have America is return to The Bible, The Word Of God!
September 16th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
mmmm
September 17th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Reveal in these days my friends, we are coming together like never before. Gun owners and like minded thinkers are finding each other and banding together. We must all stand together and rally for it’s the man that goes it alone that is taken down and lost. These are exciting times, no other time in history have we come so close to the way or Founding Fathers must have felt. They felt the Spirit of ‘76 back in those days, well we too will fell and are felling a certain Spirit of our time!
September 17th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Hey y’all.
Even tho I’m from Texas, I Just called Congressman Joe Wilson’s office, in Beaufort, South Carolina. Unfortunately, I was unable to speak with the Congressman, but I asked a gentleman in his office to relay a message from me. I asked #1, ‘what was his stance on the 2nd Ammendment, either pro or con. He said the Congressman was very PRO the ammendment and believed in our right to keep and bear arms. #2, I also told this gentleman to relay to the Congressman my deep appreciation for him stating, the other day, that Mr Hussein Obama lied to Congress. I also said he was the only person who had the cahones to say what he felt instead of cow-towing to “Our Dear Leader”.
I also found out this man, Joe Wilson, was in the US Army Reserve from ‘72-’75 and he retired as a Colonel from the SC National Guard in 2003, 31 years. He has 4 sons in the armed forces. So my point is, this guy has the balls to say what he did to Hussein Obama, then he has the balls to be the POTUS. Call his office and tell him thanks for being a good and “stand-up” American. I got his phone # off his web site, but just in case, I called his office in Beaufort SC, and the # is 843 521 2530.
We need more “stand-up” Americans working for us in Washington, instead of the fat, lazy, money hungry a– h—s that most of ‘em are, that are there now.
Like they say, “they’ll pry my weapons from my cold dead fingers”. Roger that???
USN ‘63-’70, brown water & blue water. 2 tours in-country. GO NAV.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
it is like this . why hurt the people that live in the laws ! go after the bad guys, like the dope dealers ! ! ! leave us good people alone ! ! !
September 17th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
If we all stand up ..like we will be the last man standing in a toe-to-toe fight..they will begin to take notice .gettin’ close to TIME TO STOP PLAYING
Mister Nice Guy
September 18th, 2009 at 7:37 am
I am amazed at alot of the comments from those that believe this is anything but aboslute bullshit and has been for years. I do believe and stand by the oath I took 23 years ago when joining the military. Sworn to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States against all enemies FOREIGN and DOMESTIC. I do not look forward to the day they ask for or even worse try to take my guns, the same guns that my ancestors used to make this a free nation and the same guns that we have used to keep this a free nation. I think every american needs to actually read teh constitution and all of the amendments before its to late. We became a free nation by defending our rights to freedom, I have defended them for 23 years and I will defend them at home for the rest of my days.
Realist and others like you, please use the greatest invention man has made, the airplane and get the hell out of my country if you do not appreciate the freedoms we provide with our guns. And please dont think for one second that it wasnt the guns that saved our ass long ago and will be what save it again next time.
September 19th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Yes another thing that I can be scared about foreigners or anybody knowing how many and what types’ of guns I own that’s just great. Yes it could happen and yes it’s scary…..BUT how many of us support our NRA or our other gun happy organizations the have lobbyists in Washington throwing money in to the “FAT CATS” of congress’s pockets???????? yes Osama Obama and a few more key players want to take away our rights and make us wear turbines and ride high mileage camels or what ever you want to think, but thank god for greed, there are more of the FAT CATS in congress then the right snatchers and that makes me feel some what safe that this will never get passed. if we as American people what to do something to help our self’s out on this issue then well lol….pay your membership dues to the NRA or what ever gun happy organization you choose because that’s what your money is used to pay for. you are essentially buying protection for your rights…..or you can watch who you vote for, research the topics that are important to you before you vote and if you voted for Obama and like owning a gun just go find some one to punch you as hard as they can in your face right in you stupid ass cock sucker because your one of the ass holes that helped put his sorry ass in office. And the fact that he is putting us even further into debt is completely being ignored by us because he is trying to do so many things at once its hard to keep track of what he’s doing and I think that’s the point keep us one step behind the whirlwind. Oh well this is just how I feel I figured I better speak up before I’m not aloud too any more lol.
September 19th, 2009 at 11:01 am
ps this is a promis of things to come there will be a civil war and i will be on the front lines with my brothers and sisters giving my life for freedom and maybe we sould be the ones to cast the first stone. every other country has revolted and a new government has risen from the ashes………for better or for worse maybe its time
September 19th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
great another thing that I can be scared about foreigners or anybody knowing how many and what types’ of guns I own that’s just great. Yes it could happen and yes it’s scary…..BUT how many of us support our NRA or our other gun happy organizations the have lobbyists in Washington throwing money in to the “FAT CATS” of congress’s pockets???????? yes Osama Obama and a few more key players want to take away our rights and make us wear turbines and ride high mileage camels or what ever you want to think, but thank god for greed, there are more of the FAT CATS in congress then the right snatchers and that makes me feel some what safe that this will never get passed. if we as American people what to do something to help our self’s out on this issue then well lol….pay your membership dues to the NRA or what ever gun happy organization you choose because that’s what your money is used to pay for. you are essentially buying protection for your rights…..or you can watch who you vote for, research the topics that are important to you before you vote and if you voted for Obama and like owning a gun just go find some one to punch you as hard as they can in your face right in you stupid ass cock sucker because your one of the ass holes that helped put his sorry ass in office. And the fact that he is putting us even further into debt is completely being ignored by us because he is trying to do so many things at once its hard to keep track of what he’s doing and I think that’s the point keep us one step behind the whirlwind. Oh well this is just how I feel I figured I better speak up before I’m not aloud too any more lol.
September 19th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
GOLDEN TONGUE
BLACK HEART
ANYBODY ELSE SEE A DANGEROUS COMBINATION HERE????!!!!
September 19th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
AND while he may be called the President, I don’t believe anybody that has never served in the military should be called Commander-In-Chief.
(senior enlisted and senior officers had to WORK their way up the chain of command–and this guy starts at the top–I guess I need to get in the ‘community organizer’ business and get some radical friends)
September 20th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Hi, Retired Navy here. I do agree with not selling out to a foreign gov, or any world gov at the expence of our constituion. If they want to come and get my guns, I’ll give them to them an ounce at a time. no I am not a terroist just a 76 year old American who wants MY America back. not the socalist Gov the country its turning into.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:31 am
What suckers gun owners are. Whats the big deal about how many guns you own and who knows it. Guns kill. There are certain individuals out there right now who are going too kill your loved one’s soon. The problem is we dont know who they are. When they get killed by a gun just make sure you understand you fought for it.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:26 am
if clark & bill need a corpsman with them –im in fmf 1950-53
semper fi
September 21st, 2009 at 9:11 am
Well Anthony Wassil. you must not be from this country, you must be from some where other then this country and want to know personal information about me and my family and my fellow countrymen’s’ family. Before you start shooting your mouth off and make your self sound like an ignorant uninformed ass, do your research on what you talking about. Guns don’t kill people they are tools. What’s next on the list hammers, kitchen knifes, oh lol here’s one; how about nail guns. do you think that forcing ourselves to disarm or being forcibly disarmed is going to do any thing other then put law biting citizens in danger, crack open a history book you dullard. Look up what tool was used and when it was used to build the country that I assume you and I both live in, and the ensured the freedoms that we both enjoy today (so far). I’ll give you a hint try looking around April 1775. If you have a problem with what happened at that point in American history, well hell your right then “god save the king” hope you’re a catholic……….like some of your roll models (castro,idi amin, qaddafi, stalin,kim-jong-il, or who could forget you favorite an avid supporter of gun control, Hitler). All my guns are registered having to register your guns has been around for a long time its making my information public to others foreign and domestic, that’s the issue. Its an invasion of privacy okay, knowing that it would be easier for the people that want to “kill our loved ones soon” to find us and do so more efficiently, and then they will take my guns and come to your house next or first because they will know that there aren’t any guns at your house, so if you are ok with that and want to earn supporters for this issue then before you post a rebuttal to my or any one else’s posts, you should post a copy of last years tax return on here your ssi number, how much you made, dependents, address and all. do you feel comfortable with that……….if you don’t do this before you make some smart ass uneducated reply then we all will know that you are a hypocrite and your words have no meaning, and we will all think that you are a potential terrorist. you sir are one of the blind mindless sheep that will wined up skipping and singing wail on your way to have a serial id number branded in you big dumb ass. oh and what will you protect your loved ones with when some one invades your house and has a knife against your neck and makes you watch as his buddy lovingly rapes you wife and baby girl. don’t be blind mr.wassil take the initiative to research the issue and the repercussions should it get passed, and have the foresight to see that it will not stop here with this issue, learn from others mistakes so you can help not to repeat them.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:53 am
P.S. oh yeah I forgot and I might be mistaken here but isn’t wassil a Jewish name????? seems like we kind of helped you guys out some back in the 40’s and we weren’t using our peckers to do it with ether and why couldn’t you help your self’s out……….ummm interesting isn’t it think about that wail you enjoy your kosher ham sandwich!!!!!! and this isn’t a racist comment I am of German/ Norwegian background, and I happen to be an American born father of two half black daughters so I am the last person you want to be calling a racist bigot or supremacist I’m just an American who happens to believe in the rights and freedoms that my fore fathers died to earn for me and you as well countless other in almost every country in the world. I have family that served in almost every war we have ever had for our self’s and for others!!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:20 am
True American’s Destiny: A TACTICAL RETREAT: Isaiah 18: 1-7. This is America’s destiny. The King James translation is the clearest to understand.
Tactical retreat from what? It will be the catching up of all who have His Spirit—BUT “if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” Romans 8:9. Meaning, we must have Christ’s Spirit to be His AND to be saved by Him. There is no other name under Heaven whereby we must be saved but Jesus Christ. Acts 4:12, paraphrased.
Our founding documents are inspired by GOD. Geographically, America was held back by GOD so it would be utilized in the Great End Time harvest of souls, a most important campaign of the Lord God Almighty.
A tactical retreat is again, the catching up of His church, which are those in whom His Spirit dwells. America the great is inspired by GOD. She is great because she honors the GREAT I AM. We must rush to the defense of her founding documents and if that fails, to stand and fight for the freedoms our founding fathers stood and fought for. To defend her from usurpers is our Duty.
To preach the Gospel of the GOD who made her great is also our Duty. Her calling is to have a people who WILL bring a present unto the LORD of HOSTS. That present is the souls won to the Kingdom of GOD by the preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
See Isaiah in your Bible. These people, who are terrible from their beginning HITHERTO, shall bring a present unto the LORD of HOSTS.
What’s left behind (or more accurately, WHO) shall be eaten by the beasts of the field and by the birds of the air.
To those who win all in the war, a tactical retreat is WELCOME. COME LORD JESUS! http://www.MarkMyWordsPublishing.com
September 23rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
All I can say is that those who voted Barack Obama into office were adequately warned before they voted. We can no longer sit back and let the outspoken minority think for those who are too ignorant and/or apathetic to do so for themselves. They need to be educated and brought out to defend what this country was founded on and for. If atheists don’t want prayer, let them sit back and enjoy the mement of silence. If they don’t like In God We Trust, let them go somewhere that has a different currency. If they don’t like our pledege of allegience, let them make their home and take allegience somewhere else.I am a veteran. I took an oath to defend my country and my constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I did not say that I relieved myself of that oath when I got out of the service.I pray that the day does not come that we as Americans have to take up arms against our countrymen, but if it comes to that, I will do what I have to do.Our country was not made great by succumbing to the ill willed perverts, or by the anti-democracy zealots, or by a band of leaders who are so self serving that they are willing to sell us and the future of their own families to the highest bidder. I do agree with Barack Obama in one regard. It is time for a change. However, I believe the REAL change we need is to get back to the priorities of God, Country, Duty and Honor. When our government sends the troops (ours or anybody elses) to take away our freedom, we will have come full circle to 1776, and have to start all over again. I don’t think we can expect the same success this time.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
When honest citizens are disarmed criminals will love it. By the way, our politicians and Obama’s Czars are some of the worst criminals in what’s left of America. Hold the Fort !
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:18 pm
REALIST: Here’s why you’re a LIAR: “…a WELL-REGULATED MILITIA….”, RIGHT ?? YOU say it’s the National Guard, right ? AND, that it’s CLEAR that it’s the National Guard, right ??
IF THE NATIONAL GUARD IS THE “MILITIA” CITED IN THE 2ND, THEN WHY DIDN’T THE GOVERNMENT TAKE ALL THE GUNS FROM “WE THE PEOPLE” WHEN THE NATIONAL GUARD ( the “Well-Regulated Militia” YOU JUST ADMITTED TO ) WAS FORMED ??
YOU SAID IT…. THE NATIONAL GUARD….
BUT SOMEHOW, AFTER THAT “well-regulated militia” was formed, WE THE PEOPLE got to keep & BEAR our arms ??
WHY, REALIST ??
BECAUSE that “well-regulated militia” IS NOT THE NATIONAL GUARD…
NOW WHO’S THE IDIOT ??
WHY DIDN’T THEY TAKE OUR GUNS THEN, IDIOT ??
EVERYBODY ON THIS LIST NEEDS TO RUB EVERY STINKING NOSE IN THIS FACT WHENEVER THIS “WELL-REGULATED MILITIA” TRAIN OF THOUGHT IS BROUGHT INTO A CONVERSATION….
September 24th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Wow, lot’s of great input. I just hope all peple can “stick to their guns” becasue the government will involve the news media to NOT show true Americans sticking up for themselves and defending thier Nation but will show the citizens revolting against the Government and being taken into custody, prison camps, shot at and being downtrodden to make it look like they have no chance against the Governemnt. The news will distort the true facts. The Government will do every trick possible to make the people with guns feel that they will be “eliminated” and have no chance to the point where all but the very “warped” will continue to fight. And, the WILL make an example of this….blood will be shed. A horrible scare tactic. So, when will the internet be censored? To keep the truth from it’s people. God Bless FOX news for bringing out the truth. We all need to support them as there is really no other news station that is not controlled by the Governemnt.
One last personal example on a small scale of what recently happened to me. On Christmas Eve, my son & his family were visinting from another State along with my other “grown sons” that came over for vising & celebration. At about midnight, we were all in my fully enclosed and fenced back yard sitting in our hot tub on the back deck ehan all of a sudden 3 lights appereared over the back fence about 90 feet away. It was pitch black and we yelled, “who is there”? No answer. We had Christmas carols playing on the hot tub’s stereo and could not hear or make out who it was. All of a sudden the lights all came over the fence and started running to ward us. My family & kids freaked out, screaming, yelling, panic set in. I stood up and yelled “you are on private property, I am the owner of this place and to get outta here immediately”. They didn’t stop and were soon at the edge of the hot tub with bright lights in our face, saying nothing. We yelled, splashed water at the direction of the lights. My daughet-in-law screamed, I think I see a gun and they are going to kill us! Within seconds two of the lights were up on the back deck, still too dark to see who it was and there were inside lights around the hot tub making it difficult for us to see out in the dark. All of a sudden, there were red lazer beams pointed on my sons head, my daughter-in-laws chest and another one waving in the steam from the hot tub. I told my son I’m getting out to go get help and/or try to distract these people as I think we are going to get killed in here. As soon as I got to the stairs and up over the edge I was shot! Luckily it was a tazer and I went to the frozen deck. After I came to, I saw it was the cops! they said they got a nose complaint from some neighbor and couldn’t find the front of our house, so they came in this way! Are you FKM? Get this, they lied on the police report and said I was attacking them, charged me with Felony harrassment and hauled me to jail on Christmas Eve at 1am! Charges were dropped, but I was brutally attacked on my own property and illegally tresspassed upon and civils rights attacked. Court case is pending. But, what I am telling you is that this is happening all over everywhere! Police & Government brutalizing people. My attorney said I was within my right to shoot at them, however….it was probably good since they would have gone into attack mode and most likely shot everyone dead! So, I will now always be ready. But, if you are not armed….this will happen and you will be hauled away by the Goverment & the people it assigns. So, how esle was I supposed to defend & protect myself? Call the cops? They were already there!!!!!!
September 26th, 2009 at 5:22 am
I” solemnly swear to protect and defend the constitution and flag of the united states of america against all enemies , foreign or domestic so help me god ” every soldier has taken this oath
September 27th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Sure hope all those that voted this guy in are real happy now…suppose any are having second thoughts?? Let it be known that I surely didn’t vote for him.You can bet that he will cause as much damage to the U.S. in his tenure than imaginable.We see fighting in the streets from the comfort of our armchairs on tv…I fear that what we see there will be the U.S. in days to come……we will be given no options other than fight or flight (give in)…
October 4th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
What we need, among other things, is to have all conservatives to stop subscribing to newspapers and to stop watching the major liberal controlled TV stations (except maybe sports). Perhaps when they go broke, we can replace them with more Fox News type media. After all, we don’t really need newspapers much… we have the internet, at least for now.
October 10th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
+ scope – * – the release – _ – those that try.
October 25th, 2009 at 3:23 am
Yes, the internet is available free, yet… until Obama-nator starts taxing us up the ying-yang to use it; oh, sorry, not a tax, but a value-added fee…..
November 13th, 2009 at 9:25 am
It occurs to me that if the goverment gets a list of everyone who has guns, ammo, etc. They will also know exactly who does not. Possibly those folks would be sitting ducks….?
They keep sending our young men and women to fight in wars that are not of our making. So many of them getting killed or wounded
November 13th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Looking at this from another angle…if OB gets a list of all gun owners….then he (they) have a (basic) list of all who do NOT have guns…..sitting ducks?
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:41 am
Well 11 mounth’s of obama and our attention is on health ins. did good on takeing our attention off the war. and what happened to the troops that were tryed for killing the enamie? they did a good job for us. My last comander and chief told me to be vigelant. i have been and muslim gathering places are more active latley. by the way i dont reconize oboma as a comander and chief. no birth certificate and once a muslim always a muslim. Gen Patton read his enamie’s bible. read the karan and learn about ours. SPEAK ENGLISH OR GET OUT we won’t stop you. and order some ammo off line and get one the good list. then when the commie bastards or anyone come to disarm you, you will know you have been sold out and its time to stand and fight. My Milatary outh still stand’s with me.
November 25th, 2009 at 1:29 am
Hey “Mike, White American” Learn to SPELL ENGLISH OR GET OUT.
December 1st, 2009 at 12:05 am
IS LIFE SO DEAR SO SWEET, AS TO BE PURCHASED AT THE PRICE OF CHAINS AND SLAVERY? FORBID IT ALMIGHTY GOD! I know not course others may take , but as for me , give me liberty or give me DEATH!